TheThaiger
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Indeed. It always amazes me people charge - and people will pay - $60 for an instructional DVD that costs pennies to produce. Name me one other sport where knowledge is so disproportionately expensive.
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Indeed. It always amazes me people charge - and people will pay - $60 for an instructional DVD that costs pennies to produce. Name me one other sport where knowledge is so disproportionately expensive.
DVD costs TONS to produce and often still lose money at what they sell for.
Name one other sport? Golf. My local golf pro charges $40/30-min lesson and he's prob a hack in the GRAND scheme of things.
Pool instruction is cheap. Before someone says how expensive Stan, Ron, Randy or Scott is--- they're the best out there. Care to guess what Butch Harmon or David Leadbetter charges??? lol
Now for the record, i am sure there are a lots of non cte players just on this board that can beat spiderwebbcom score! It was dave aka spiderwebcomm that got that score and not cte! the aiming system he uses is a cte system. You guys are just to smart for me and remember im the dumb guy, im off to work.
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What shots do you want to see? In my videos I have taken every shot challenge posted these past couple years.
Every time someone posted some shots and said that the aiming system I use can't work with the posted shots I made a video and did the shots.
So go to www.pool.bz and find the Cuetable - diagram the shots you think won't work and I will do them on video. Watching me run out doesn't mean anything.
If I miss then is it because of the system? Or because of the stroke? Or both? Can't really see that on video and this is one of the problems with this whole debate.
This whole time NO AMOUNT OF PROOF is enough. Personal testimony is discounted. Video proof is discounted. Professional players admitting they use aiming systems is discounted. Professional instructors teaching these methods is discounted.
As Lou put it, 'if Willie Mosconi himself rose from the grave and said that Aiming Systems are great, I would tell him to go back to sleep.'
So if Lou would tell the greatest straight pool player in the world he is wrong and that he should go back to being dead what in the world can you expect to learn from watching me play? What can I expect you to say?
I honestly doubt you seeing me run some racks is going to suddenly convert you to thinking aiming systems are great to use and teach.
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If there are then let's see them. I have a crisp bennie for the person that does it.
It was Dave EXPRESSLY using the aiming system he advocates that got the score. It was Dave crediting the aiming system he advocates with giving him the ability to get the score.
I am giving everyone here 24 days to beat it and post a video. Let's see how long it takes for that to happen IF it happens.
For the record Dave did it in ONE TAKE as far as I know. Iwill leave it up to the honor system for people to tell us how many times they tried it. I don't care if they do it 100 times I just want to see it.
If I beat my score and post a video, will you send me a case? I think 16/17 was the score, on a 9'er with 4.5 pockets.
I think people can beat that score, fyi. If you review Colin's original thread, you'll see I made my video very shortly after he posted the challenge. If you gave me (or anyone else) a 30 day window to beat the score I posted within a day, you can't win that proposition.
Thanks for the vote of confidence though
That is some good shooting.
Here's the thread I found regarding this:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=184453
I think I'm going to do some work on that drill. I'm sure I could use the work. I don't see the point in trying to beat Dave's score (if possible) since he just about made all of them!!!
John can i post my old video..lol..i think i scored perfect on my 8 footer.
Im also sure i can do it on my 9 footer. One thing though im not a naysayer.Does this bet still go fotr me.
Nobody is experimenting with Shane's system ?
In full disclosure, I just finished a great 14.1 session and came off a big run. I was in-mode. If I tried cold, ermm... prob wouldn't have happened.
John, please do not play fast and loose (again) with what I have said.
The use of quotation marks means you are citing *word for word* something I've said. IOW, it should represent my *exact* words.
Don't bother asking me what I did say. Do your own homework.
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TheThaiger
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The burden of proof is on you guys to demonstrate it works, not on us. Beat the ghost easily with THAT cue action and I'll believe your system improves your play.
You make videos of pretty much everything else - why not a game against the ghost? What are you afraid of?
i could figure it all out in a few hours on a table and post a video and you are all the smart guys and i no shit...but #$%@ guys you aint worthy of it :thumbup:
Yeah burning a DVD is cheap. This 30 seconds cost us more than $20,000 to make - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJuv5SBaqMo
Now try to price out the cost of hiring a professional videographer and editor to make a halfway professional hour long video anything.
Disproportionally expensive? Um I am afraid you are not quite up with the prices of videos in other sports
http://sportvideos.com/home.php?cat=37 Golf - from $20 to $50
Biliards DVDs are no more expensive on average than any other sports DVDs.
one day you will put your ego aside and speak the truth on here :thumbup:
John can i post my old video..lol..i think i scored perfect on my 8 footer.
Im also sure i can do it on my 9 footer. One thing though im not a naysayer.Does this bet still go fotr me.
You don't count LOL. In all seriousness, it should only qualify on 9'er with 4.5" pockets. Reason being, on a smaller table (maybe even with bigger pockets), scores would soar. I know on a 7er, regardless of pocket size, it's not much of a test. An 8er is harder-- but a 9'er with smaller pockets should be standard.
I only say this because there should be a baseline on equipment. That said, I think you can beat my score on a 9'er--- I'm a fan of your game.
No kidding. Someone posted not too long ago that they had sold 1,000 copies of an instructional DVD at $39 a pop. Even minus production costs it doesn't take a beautiful mind to figure out DVDs are a big money maker.
Lou Figueroa
Shane has plenty of videos.