A mistake I hope to never make again

m79a

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There was a guy barking last night he would play anybody a race to 11 for a $100. I said lets go, not knowing how drunk the guy was. first of all the set took about 2 hours because he would shoot, make a ball then go talk scream and yell and somebody for 5minutes at a time . I get up 3 -1, then he start screaming and yelling while I'm shooting. Well he gets up 8-5. Then comes the confrontaion. I say something to him about yelling non stop and he gets up in my face and draqws his cue back like he's gonna swing it. The guy has heart trouble. I'm 6'3 270 and i'm thinking about busting him in the mouth, but i'm afraid if he hits the concrete floor i'll kill him. so he finally backs down. The yelling continues he gets up 10-8 I've got a tough cut on the 9, just as I shoot he punches a door as hard as he can and I hang the 9 in the corner. I'm still pissed. That's my rant for the day. Drunks ugh.
 
There was a guy barking last night he would play anybody a race to 11 for a $100. I said lets go, not knowing how drunk the guy was. first of all the set took about 2 hours because he would shoot, make a ball then go talk scream and yell and somebody for 5minutes at a time . I get up 3 -1, then he start screaming and yelling while I'm shooting. Well he gets up 8-5. Then comes the confrontaion. I say something to him about yelling non stop and he gets up in my face and draqws his cue back like he's gonna swing it. The guy has heart trouble. I'm 6'3 270 and i'm thinking about busting him in the mouth, but i'm afraid if he hits the concrete floor i'll kill him. so he finally backs down. The yelling continues he gets up 10-8 I've got a tough cut on the 9, just as I shoot he punches a door as hard as he can and I hang the 9 in the corner. I'm still pissed. That's my rant for the day. Drunks ugh.

So what are you really mad about? The fact that you lost, or the fact that you allowed a drunk to control YOUR mental action at the table?
 
I would have quit the soon as the yelling and other BS started. I have a heart condition too, but I would have laid him out with my cue if he came at me. Live and learn. Johnnyt
 
There was a guy barking last night he would play anybody a race to 11 for a $100. I said lets go, not knowing how drunk the guy was. first of all the set took about 2 hours because he would shoot, make a ball then go talk scream and yell and somebody for 5minutes at a time . I get up 3 -1, then he start screaming and yelling while I'm shooting. Well he gets up 8-5. Then comes the confrontaion. I say something to him about yelling non stop and he gets up in my face and draqws his cue back like he's gonna swing it. The guy has heart trouble. I'm 6'3 270 and i'm thinking about busting him in the mouth, but i'm afraid if he hits the concrete floor i'll kill him. so he finally backs down. The yelling continues he gets up 10-8 I've got a tough cut on the 9, just as I shoot he punches a door as hard as he can and I hang the 9 in the corner. I'm still pissed. That's my rant for the day. Drunks ugh.

I noticed your signature. I played with a Schon SL-5 for years and now it stays in my case while I play with a Woodworth. I like the stiff hit of the Woodworth.

If a hustler encountered somebody like that he would become the drunk's best friend, buy him more drinks to get him even more drunk, and take home the cash. Of course the hustler would be a better player than the drunk to begin with which may be part of your problem. Did you lose because he was acting crazy or because he is a better player?
 
Gotta love drunks. I bet he was pretending to be drunk and only drinking water instead of Vodka. I have seen that countless times.
 
There was a guy barking last night he would play anybody a race to 11 for a $100. I said lets go, not knowing how drunk the guy was. first of all the set took about 2 hours because he would shoot, make a ball then go talk scream and yell and somebody for 5minutes at a time . I get up 3 -1, then he start screaming and yelling while I'm shooting. Well he gets up 8-5. Then comes the confrontaion. I say something to him about yelling non stop and he gets up in my face and draqws his cue back like he's gonna swing it. The guy has heart trouble. I'm 6'3 270 and i'm thinking about busting him in the mouth, but i'm afraid if he hits the concrete floor i'll kill him. so he finally backs down. The yelling continues he gets up 10-8 I've got a tough cut on the 9, just as I shoot he punches a door as hard as he can and I hang the 9 in the corner. I'm still pissed. That's my rant for the day. Drunks ugh.

I don't think you started playing because you needed the hundred. What to you suppose was the reason you got involved? I have a feeling you wanted to put this guy down or put in his place. These are not good reasons to play someone. The problem started when you said you would play. Everything else was predictable and you should have known it.

You also say the guy has heart trouble telling us he is no stranger to you. I am sure you have seen his act before and it is your own fault for playing. I hope when you say you are pissed it is at yourself for having so little self control as to get sucked into this guys world.
 
I would have quit the soon as the yelling and other BS started. I have a heart condition too, but I would have laid him out with my cue if he came at me. Live and learn. Johnnyt

This, definitely wouldn't have put up with his crap.
 
drunk wins mental game

So what's the lesson learned? The drunk has a better game? or a better mental game than you do being sober? Some drunks are always drunk, or in other words,"normal". This is how they are.They function this way everyday and being "drunk" doesn't affect their play . They probably won't ever get any better than they are. Most drunks are loud and belligerent and a complete pain in the ass-but they do like to get in gambling matches. I love drunks. They make me money. They want to fight, and sometimes you don't get paid. But overall, they make me money. I grew up in a town with no pool halls, and all the action was in the bars. Every bar had a league team, and some bars were actual stops for road players. Shannon Daulton, Jack Hines, even Jimmy Mataya used to come thru the bars here to play and match up. That being said...did you lose because the guy can actually beat you? or did his actions, or rather your re-action to his actions, cost you the $100?

If he can beat you, even when drunk, then read no further. The better player won. It doesn't sound like that is the case. It sounds like YOU let him get under your skin. His actions and lack of respect or attention to the game (because of being drunk) bothered you greatly. He sharked you with punching the wall, and being loud, and getting in your face, and basically trying to be an overbearing, threatening ass. YOU fell for it. You lost your game-your mental game. You've bolstered his confidence, since he beat you drunk, and no doubt he will confront you again looking for another game.This is your chance to get your hundred back and your mental game, but you must be ready. If it's a two hour match, so be it. Unless you make $50 an hour at work, it's worth the time. And beating this "drunk" will be sweeter than the hundred dollars.

So how do you do it? How do you win? How do you keep your focus at the table with an idiot "drunk" trying to crawl under your skin? By remembering that he is only at the table to make you pay for your mistakes. When you at the table, remember it's just you at the table. No one can tackle you, or block your shot. When drunks take forever to come and shoot their turn, it's a normal reaction for you to "hurry" your own shots in reaction to their stall. This causes you to miss. When you keep missing, it compounds your frustration. A drunk pool players rhythm is not the same as a pool players rhythm.It sounds like you would rather be in a pool hall, playing with etiquette and professionalism. Drunks don't play that way. You have to adjust your mental attitude. The best way is to think of yourself as a better person (ie., you're not drunk), and a better player. You have to convince yourself that you are going to take home the cash because of this. Play your game, your speed, your shots, and here's a big one your SAFETIES. This is a killer to a drunk. His motor skills are off, and constantly kicking or banking at object balls will frustrate him. At first, he'll mutter how "lucky" you are. Then he'll realize that you are outplaying him because he's a drunk. This will further lesson his playing ability, as he tries harder to beat you, but his motor skills won't let him.

Whenever you find yourself missing a shot that you should make, ask yourself, "AM I letting my reaction to a drunk cause me to play worse than I do?" If the answer is 'yes', then stand up, go to the bathroom, wash your hands and face, re-group, whatever you have to do to get yourself back in the game. It sounds cliche, but only you control you and your reactions to certain situations. If he wanders off, patiently wait, reminding yourself (that he's a drunk, I'm taking home the cash). If he starts yelling and getting mad, be calm, a $100 isn't worth a fight, jail, a broken cue etc. or your reputation as a -stand-up guy.ANYTHING this guy does, should just be amusing at best because....(he's a drunk and you're taking home the cash). Stay in your game....your focus....your speed....your rhythm....it doesn't matter what the drunk is doing....you're taking home the cash!


This drunk beating you out of a $100 could be one of the best lessons you ever get for two reasons. First, you just learned a weakness in your game-your mental game. Knowing it now, you can address it. Second, this drunk's ego just inflated. Use it toward your advantage the next time he wants to gamble. If you can adjust your mental game, you could win thousands off this drunk.

Good Luck.

Ace
 
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you are right about one thing

you did make a mistake, pool is played between the ears, not listening to a drunk rant.
 
At least you stepped up to the challenge. And give ur self a high five for not hitting the guy. Just need to have a cooler head next time

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Hell,I thought this post was about an ex marriage. I made a mistake once and it took me 20 years to correct. I met a wonderful woman about 3 years later and am happily married now.
 
So what are you really mad about? The fact that you lost, or the fact that you allowed a drunk to control YOUR mental action at the table?

Well I was mad because I made the mistake of playing him knowing he was drunk. It was not an act he was cracking the beers open right in front of me. I should have quit, but i didn't know if I was going to have to fight his ass and risk going to jail about it. I have a job and they frown on calling in from jail.
 
At least you stepped up to the challenge. And give ur self a high five for not hitting the guy. Just need to have a cooler head next time

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Thanks, I actually played a little better after the confrontation. But he literally hit the door right in front of me as I hit the shot the 9.I have beaten this guy when he was sober numerous times. We play pretty even.
 
I don't think you started playing because you needed the hundred. What to you suppose was the reason you got involved? I have a feeling you wanted to put this guy down or put in his place. These are not good reasons to play someone. The problem started when you said you would play. Everything else was predictable and you should have known it.

You also say the guy has heart trouble telling us he is no stranger to you. I am sure you have seen his act before and it is your own fault for playing. I hope when you say you are pissed it is at yourself for having so little self control as to get sucked into this guys world.

Exactly, he is no stranger to me. But I have never seen him act that way. Generally we are pretty friendly. You're right I wanted to put him in his place. But i screwed myself by getting myself in that situation.
 
I guess you learnded your lesson on that one. He probably rattled you a bit.

I don't suffer drunken knobs all that well to begin with, let alone loud mouth ones that obviously can't hold their alcohol.

One of the main reasons that I had given up going to the bar to play a little on the weekends.

League in the bar is totally different. Myself, I just found a nice little Vietnamese Lounge with 4 tables in it. A few players have been going and no A Holes, so I can get back into a weekend night out.

The bar tender is usually playing the machines so its a help yourself bar and honor system at the end of the evening.
 
So what's the lesson learned? The drunk has a better game? or a better mental game than you do being sober? Some drunks are always drunk, or in other words,"normal". This is how they are.They function this way everyday and being "drunk" doesn't affect their play . They probably won't ever get any better than they are. Most drunks are loud and belligerent and a complete pain in the ass-but they do like to get in gambling matches. I love drunks. They make me money. They want to fight, and sometimes you don't get paid. But overall, they make me money. I grew up in a town with no pool halls, and all the action was in the bars. Every bar had a league team, and some bars were actual stops for road players. Shannon Daulton, Jack Hines, even Jimmy Mataya used to come thru the bars here to play and match up. That being said...did you lose because the guy can actually beat you? or did his actions, or rather your re-action to his actions, cost you the $100?

If he can beat you, even when drunk, then read no further. The better player won. It doesn't sound like that is the case. It sounds like YOU let him get under your skin. His actions and lack of respect or attention to the game (because of being drunk) bothered you greatly. He sharked you with punching the wall, and being loud, and getting in your face, and basically trying to be an overbearing, threatening ass. YOU fell for it. You lost your game-your mental game. You've bolstered his confidence, since he beat you drunk, and no doubt he will confront you again looking for another game.This is your chance to get your hundred back and your mental game, but you must be ready. If it's a two hour match, so be it. Unless you make $50 an hour at work, it's worth the time. And beating this "drunk" will be sweeter than the hundred dollars.

So how do you do it? How do you win? How do you keep your focus at the table with an idiot "drunk" trying to crawl under your skin? By remembering that he is only at the table to make you pay for your mistakes. When you at the table, remember it's just you at the table. No one can tackle you, or block your shot. When drunks take forever to come and shoot their turn, it's a normal reaction for you to "hurry" your own shots in reaction to their stall. This causes you to miss. When you keep missing, it compounds your frustration. A drunk pool players rhythm is not the same as a pool players rhythm.It sounds like you would rather be in a pool hall, playing with etiquette and professionalism. Drunks don't play that way. You have to adjust your mental attitude. The best way is to think of yourself as a better person (ie., you're not drunk), and a better player. You have to convince yourself that you are going to take home the cash because of this. Play your game, your speed, your shots, and here's a big one your SAFETIES. This is a killer to a drunk. His motor skills are off, and constantly kicking or banking at object balls will frustrate him. At first, he'll mutter how "lucky" you are. Then he'll realize that you are outplaying him because he's a drunk. This will further lesson his playing ability, as he tries harder to beat you, but his motor skills won't let him.

Whenever you find yourself missing a shot that you should make, ask yourself, "AM I letting my reaction to a drunk cause me to play worse than I do?" If the answer is 'yes', then stand up, go to the bathroom, wash your hands and face, re-group, whatever you have to do to get yourself back in the game. It sounds cliche, but only you control you and your reactions to certain situations. If he wanders off, patiently wait, reminding yourself (that he's a drunk, I'm taking home the cash). If he starts yelling and getting mad, be calm, a $100 isn't worth a fight, jail, a broken cue etc. or your reputation as a -stand-up guy.ANYTHING this guy does, should just be amusing at best because....(he's a drunk and you're taking home the cash). Stay in your game....your focus....your speed....your rhythm....it doesn't matter what the drunk is doing....you're taking home the cash!


This drunk beating you out of a $100 could be one of the best lessons you ever get for two reasons. First, you just learned a weakness in your game-your mental game. Knowing it now, you can address it. Second, this drunk's ego just inflated. Use it toward your advantage the next time he wants to gamble. If you can adjust your mental game, you could win thousands off this drunk.

Good Luck.

Ace

Very good advice here!
 
A lesson I learned driving cab........Drunks are never worth the trouble, no matter how much money they flash.


I let that lesson carry over to my gambling at pool as well.
 
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