A quick note from Varney...

[!Smorgass Bored]

Or, TWO

What's the old saying "an ounce of prevention..."

B

No, the old saying is "always wear a condom."
Doug

 

[Pinocchio]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote: Jesus Christ (A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches) That probably just about says it all! If a mans word is no good I'd say hes probably a crook. What would you guys think??????????
Pinocchio

 

[TATE]

Sorry If this offends anyone, but I don't like to see people get screwed over. Isn't there a saying something like - If it happens once, shame on you. If it happens twice, shame on me. This is too rediculous for words IMHO!!!!!!!!!

If they didn't sink an extra ball or two on the break, I'd have to go along with you on that as a matter or principal, but since they can improve the efficiency of your break by 65%, and your break and run percentage by 30%, well, then poolplayers, me included, will suffer through some really bad service, fib tellin', etc., insults even, threats, beatings, delays, pay up front, whatever - I mean, whatever he needs, you know, the break shot is HUGE at my level. So let's not piss him off, please call him Mr. Varney from now on, OK, and we'll all be happy?

Chris

Ps.:smile: :smile: :smile:

 

[VonRhett]

DRAMA QUEEN

Didn't he just write a similar apology about 1-month ago??

 

[Southpaw]

I stayed away from the last few threads on purpose but this one I will respond to.

WB... You are right about one thing, he has said he is sorry multiple times.

The problem is how he then goes on to blame others, make excuses, and lie to back up his own mistakes, it makes the apology mean nothing. Most AZers already know this but it seems there are a few that have missed it. Don't get me wrong, I am not picking on you nor do I care to argue about it, but KV will never learn. He is what he is and these bs apologies mean nothing.

Maybe its like the Michael Vick apology. Yes, he said he was sorry, but what for? For what he did or for getting caught.....

Southpaw

 

[Rodney]

For the people who think this is a stand up post, lets look at the facts.

K.V. is threatend by a lawsuit that he can't possibly win. He was given a 3 day time limit on posting an apology, and hmmmm, it's the 3rd day. K.V.'s post was pretty much forced on him, and rightfully so.

I know if I put myself in this position, I'd do anything to not lose everything even though I might be deserving.

I think his post is somewhat in the right direction, but only time will tell.

Let's see what Cincyman says.

 

[JDB]

For the people who think this is a stand up post, lets look at the facts.

K.V. is threatend by a lawsuit that he can't possibly win. He was given a 3 day time limit on posting an apology, and hmmmm, it's the 3rd day. K.V.'s post was pretty much forced on him, and rightfully so.

I know if I put myself in this position, I'd do anything to not lose everything even though I might be deserving.

I think his post is somewhat in the right direction, but only time will tell.

Let's see what Cincyman says.

I agree, but it is a very generic apology and he never really even addresses Cincyman, specifically. I am sure this is because of pride; however, I also think Cincy would find it unacceptable for what he asked for. I know I would.

 

[Rodney]

I agree, but it is a very generic apology and he never really even addresses Cincyman, specifically. I am sure this is because of pride; however, I also think Cincy would find it unacceptable for what he asked for. I know I would.

He did mention his cue, but there are certainly unanswered questions. Sounds like he said as little as possible while still trying to satisfy Cincy.

I agree about it being unacceptable.

 

[ribdoner]

Let me first say I'm sorry & apologize to all AZ'ers for any problems I may of caused you by my being behind on orders and for any comments I've made in the past. I am especially sorry to all of my wonderful customers & friends here on AZ...I'm sorry many of you have to wade through the daily headlines. Sadly most of the Varney haters are NOT customers or even have a cue ordered. They are a small group simply trying to cause me grief. I very much appreciate the tons of support from my many past customers here and from my friends here as well. I would also like to give a special THANK YOU to Miles as we've recently shared a bit with each other & I'm very proud to call him my friend. I also want to publically apologize to the moderators for what I'm sure is the daily headache I cause them.
This thing has gotten out of control and I am here now to straighten a few things out. When people start making uncalled for comments toward my wife then that is simply enough...period.
Now to clear up some rumors. Yes I got slammed with recent orders but I am only really behind on about 20 cues and I'll be caught up entirely by this fall. Since I've stopped accepting new orders things are moving along quickly. I've too recently hired a friend of mine to help with some of the time consuming task that will also be of a huge help to me.
As for Cincyman's cue...yes I screwed up. I did indeed tell him I had an ebony hustler blank turned near finish size. It was one of the very nice old ebony Duff blanks. Truth is after turning it to final size...I simply was not happy with the way the points had gaps that looked to be filled with wood filler or such by Dufferin. I'm sure most players would of been fine with the cosmetics of the blank but I was not. I just didn't want anyone posting close up pics asking why the sides of a couple points had a "filler" veneer. So I started over from a oversize real ebony fullsplice and not a Duff blank. I now have the new blank finally turned to size so the cue will ship in a matter of days. I will do my best to get it shipped this week but it is a short holiday week. Worst case senario it will ship Mon....there, all of AZ has it in writing...Monday at the latest. Despite what many others may have done...I did NOT rush this cue or take any shortcuts. As I've said before I take great pride in my work as these cues will represent me forever.
Also yes, despite my best efforts some cues are out of order. Some were easier builds, some go together perfect, some require that I simply start over. I have one cue now that is #3 as the others developed issues. Wood often has a mind of its own as many of you know. My cues are not the nicest or fanciest, I'll be the first to admit. Performance is my #1 goal and I do strive for perfection. I would like to add that I also have a customer receiving grief about when he ordered his completed cue. Well he didn't order it, he simply purchased the rights to the cue from the original customer. I have Bnall's ebony/bem cue near finished too and if he decided to sell it today before it was complete then thats entirely his business....the new owner should not in any way be hassled or have his name tarnished.
I've said enough. Know too that I will not be responding to this or any other threads in the near future as I'd much rather let my actions speak for myself. I'm going to simply spend my time in the shop completing past due cues and I will post pics in the Gallery for all to enjoy. The completed cues will speak volumes more than any words.
Thank you to everyone for their time.:smile:

Deleting the highlighted portion would have served you better.

BEST of luck, Adam

 

[Koop]

Deleting the highlighted portion would have served you better.

BEST of luck, Adam

True but then it would have been something he seems unable to do:
apologize sincerely.

 

[cueguy]

Funny

Gosh, Kevin. There's something here that just doesn't add up for me.

I wonder why the "haters" have singled you out. I mean, why aren't they going after the other cuemakers on AZ like BHQ, Mason, or JC. or even Sirca, Willee, BCM, Lee, or Doug Patrick, etc, etc, (forgive me if I left anyone out).

Do you ever wonder why too? Weird, huh? I just can't figure out how you got that target painted on your chest.

I mean, certainly these other cuemakers have all been late on an order here and there, right? Who knows, maybe they handled it differently? Maybe they kept good communication when they were late on an order?
Maybe when they're late on an order they don't try to push the blame on everyone else?
Maybe they don't play the victim?
Maybe they didn't belittle or threaten their customers?
Maybe they didn't require payment in full as a deposit?
Maybe they would offer a refund on an order that has taken five times longer than promised?
Maybe it's because they don't self promote themselves with tall tales of being the "exclusive cuemaker of such and such professional player"?
Maybe they don't compare themselves to the likes of Andy Gilbert?
Maybe they don't put boxes of bullets in their cue photos?
Maybe they don't try to make themselves the subject of every thread that involves a jump/break cue?
Maybe they don't have pompous signature slogans?
Maybe they didn't bribe customers in exchange for propaganda?
Maybe they're humble?
Maybe they're humble? (oops, I typed that twice, sorry)

I dunno man, I'm grasping at straws here, but there's gotta be a reason, right? You got any ideas?

Now that right there is funny ;-)

 

[frankncali]

Deleting the highlighted portion would have served you better.

BEST of luck, Adam

Sometimes one line in a paragraph really somes up the true feelings better than the other thousands of words.

Reminds me of when a team makes a player apoogize for his actions. They stand there reading a set statement then walk off laughing.

 

[pbat2751]

What I don't understand is why not COMMUNICATE this to Cincyman (and the others) during the time they have been waiting patiently for their cues. It might have helped alleviate this problem before it became one.

Jay that would too easy.

 

[masonh]

Deleting the highlighted portion would have served you better.

BEST of luck, Adam

and putting it in deletes the apology.

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

I HAD TO SHARE THIS AGAIN......

 

[shankster8]

I HAD TO SHARE THIS AGAIN......

I really hope that EVERYONE reads FAST_N_LOOSE's post, above. I have to believe that everyone who has continued to defend KV does so as a result of ignorance of such evidence presented in previous threads/posts. Apparently some of the threads discussing KV have been deleted - that might explain things. In my mind the above KV quote demonstrates character flaws which can't be corrected. I believe people are either dishonest, like this, or they are not. Ask yourself if you could conduct business like that. Remember, other customers have paid in advance for cues and have been waiting for a year. You couldn't do that? That's because you've got a different value system, and pride in your manner. People don't flip-flop back and forth regarding such values, I don't believe. You are either dishonest like this, or you aren't. Therefore, a half-apology, issued under duress, convinces me of nothing - and those forum members who so quickly run back to his defense afterwards, greatly confuse me. I won't call them "Nuthangers" now, because I really want to believe they are unaware of such background information.

There, I think I've finally said what I wanted to say. I will now cease beating on this issue and hope that common sense prevails in everyone. I realize I'm a newb and am probably stepping on some peoples toes; but, like I said before, I don't like to see people get screwed.

 

[manwon]

I really hope that EVERYONE reads FAST_N_LOOSE's post, above. I have to believe that everyone who has continued to defend KV does so as a result of ignorance of such evidence presented in previous threads/posts. Apparently some of the threads discussing KV have been deleted - that might explain things. In my mind the above KV quote demonstrates character flaws which can't be corrected. I believe people are either dishonest, like this, or they are not. Ask yourself if you could conduct business like that. Remember, other customers have paid in advance for cues and have been waiting for a year. You couldn't do that? That's because you've got a different value system, and pride in your manner. People don't flip-flop back and forth regarding such values, I don't believe. You are either dishonest like this, or you aren't. Therefore, a half-apology, issued under duress, convinces me of nothing - and those forum members who so quickly run back to his defense afterwards, greatly confuse me. I won't call them "Nuthangers" now, because I really want to believe they are unaware of such background information.

There, I think I've finally said what I wanted to say. I will now cease beating on this issue and hope that common sense prevails in everyone. I realize I'm a newb and am probably stepping on some peoples toes; but, like I said before, I don't like to see people get screwed.

I realize I'm a newb

What is a newb? Is it like the first time some one gets a Pub!!!!!!!!!!

 

[FAST_N_LOOSE]

I realize I'm a newb

What is a newb? Is it like the first time some one gets a Pub!!!!!!!!!!

IF YOU'RE SERIOUSLY ASKING, IT MEANS HE'S A NEW MEMBER.

IF YOU WERE JOKING, THAN I'M AN IDIOT. (PLEASE DON'T BEAT ME WITH YOUR MANWUS)

 

[No Illusions]

I realize I'm a newb

That I would highly doubt and more like a more familiar face with just a new name would be closer to the truth I'm sure.

 

[shankster8]

I realize I'm a newb

What is a newb? Is it like the first time some one gets a Pub!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the laugh, manwon - that's funny!!!!!

FAST_N_LOOSE: manwon's "Pub" is pronounced with a long U