Well, let me try and explain something so that maybe you'll understand why Russ is full of BS....Send the rails to Mark Gregory to get them done right???????? Mark uses the same 141 miter angles as a Diamond, only with a 13 degree down angle, SO DO I....so where was I wrong...and where was Russ right? I said he didn't know what he was talking about for a reason, that REASON is because he DON'T know what he's talking about, PERIOD! He's been mad at me for years because I WASN'T the one who worked on his pool table, but I guess he thought I was going to be the person who was, his misunderstanding, not mine. I guess he wasn't happy with how his table turned out, ok, I understand that. I've told him that once I get to California and anywhere near him I'd redo the rails on his table for FREEEEEEEEE just to make him happy, no problem. BUT, he's made it a point to badger me over and over again with stupid comments like he made in that thread but that's NOT what got him BANNED, his MOUTH got that done all by itself, he BROKE the rules with foul language and name calling....so GET OVER IT!