a 7th grader can make that shot. completely different. i'm talking cut, not kick (and no cheating on the angle for the spot shot).
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anyone else have video proof of making this shot?
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a 7th grader can make that shot. completely different. i'm talking cut, not kick (and no cheating on the angle for the spot shot).
If you jump the CB into the OB, you can achieve cut angles much larger than this (even 180 degrees!). For more info and a demonstration of the effect, see:
Regards,
Dave
I see you use left english to spin the ball in. I've had success using straight draw too *shrug*
20 years ago...that was the only solution I had seen for this shot. jumping and hitting on the back side of the ball.
Draw reduces the amount of throw for cut shots (see draw/follow throw effects); but for extremely thin hits, draw alone has practically no effect.
Outside English greater than the gearing amount creates spin-induced throw which enables the over-cut effect.
Regards,
Dave
yup. i agree this is what's necessary....but i couldn't pull it off. can you?
(and btw....i've never seen your videos before....as a 20 year engineer that also plays pool myself: i'm very impressed)
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same here. if you look at the video of my attempt...the shot at 2:02 felt like i got it....but it was still about 2" up from the tittie. the next one where it only trickles a bit...you can see me look at it from overhead and see if it was on it's way to the pocket........nope. about the same 2" up the rail spot.
i can feel the same sense of satisfaction of hucking a cue after trying that shot for an hour.
i do the same shot almost, except i cut it in the corner on the long rail. so instead of how bob did it(short side) i do it the long way. probably not as tough as the short side, but i can make it.
way easier....as i said earlier....i'll shoot that shot for the cash if i get any more than 3 attempts. barbox or nine footer.
What's even more impressive, is in that second link (the PeerLanda video), in his second attempt after the miscue, watch how Bob overcuts the ball towards the short rail! (That has to be easily a 100-degree cut, or throw, of the object ball towards the short rail.) Also notice Bob's cue -- the tip is glued directly onto the wood, with no ferrule.
(Bob, if you have a moment, I'm sure a few readers would love a comment or two about your cue, and that shot.)
-Sean
Tim:
That is the classic Lance Perkins stance, as taught by Dr. Lance Perkins during the heyday of Welcher Cochran and Dr. Perkins bid to prove Willie Hoppe wrong in his (Willie's) notion that "talent is born, not bred." So Dr. Perkins set about studying the anatomy of the human body, and how everything "should" line up when angling the body around a cue in the shooting position, in his bid to "create" a champion from scratch -- Welcher Cochran. And he was successful!
Of course, since then, snooker fundamentals have proved that there's a better way than Dr. Perkins' method (i.e. snooker fundamentals focus on aligning all the body joints *into* the shot, whereas the Lance Perkins method only focuses on the delivery arm -- the rest of the body is angled at 45-degrees to the shot line). However, that's not to say that the Perkins method "doesn't work." It certainly does, and most pool champions use the Perkins method. The easiest way to distinguish between the two schools of thought on body alignment, the tell-tale sign, is to just look at the feet -- if the foot on the same side of the body as the cue delivery arm is pointed *into* the shot, that's snooker fundamentals. If that foot is instead pointed at 45-degrees (or greater), that's the Perkins method.
Hope this is helpful,
-Sean
Im just about betting most everyone on this forum could probably make this shot.(not with cleans balls though).I have actually over cut the pocket by a whole ball. Send the object ball to the doctor have him work on all will be fine.
<yawn>....uh-huh.....
Yes. First of all, you need to use near maximum (100%) English. To get the initial aim, it helps to use back-hand English since the shot speed is fast. It also helps to find a reference point on the cloth or distant rail along your aiming line so you can make fine adjustments after each failed attempt.
The shot is also easier with older/dirtier equipment, where there is more throw and greater potential for cling. If you want to cheat, add a chalk smudge to the contact point area of the object ball to greatly increase the amount of spin-induced throw.
Thank you. You will probably relate to a lot of my stuff given my engineer/pool-player perspective.
Regards,
Dave
now...let's just see someone make it (without cheating)
and to you other gibber-gabbers: filming yourself telling some story about how you made it while hanging from the light fixture with flipflops on your hands while snorting coke of the ass of an 18year old brazilian hooker does NOT constitute video proof. video the shot in line with the cueball, spotted ball, and side pocket. any little misalignment is cheating.
Im just about betting most everyone on this forum could probably make this shot.(not with cleans balls though).I have actually over cut the pocket by a whole ball. Send the object ball to the doctor have him worked on all will be fine.
I will bet I can't make it!!!!!!!
Draw does nothing, left is the only thing that will make this shot possible, and only extreme left. You must hit it firm but slower than most would imagine, because there is a limit to the speed of rotation resulting from left english. The speed of the cue ball must be less than the speed of the horizontal rotation to make a 90+ degree cut shot.
I dont no man ,that kinda sounds like a heads i win tails you lose kinda bet.
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Yes, thanks Sean. Whenever I see someone line up like that and play as well as Bob, I always think 'how good could they have been'.