Back stroke and follow through?
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Follow through will (should) always be longer than your backswing. Because your backswing goes only as far as the length of your bridge, and your follow through should at least be the diameter of the ball + your bridge length.
If backswing=follow through, then you haven't hit the ball yet...xD
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Maybe Im an idiot, but if "follow through" is defined as the moment the tip hits the ball to when the cue stops moving, then I think it MIGHT be equal, although some players do drop the elbow which effectively makes the follow through longer.
If backswing=follow through, then you haven't hit the ball yet...xD
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Maybe Im an idiot, but if "follow through" is defined as the moment the tip hits the ball to when the cue stops moving, then I think it MIGHT be equal, although some players do drop the elbow which effectively makes the follow through longer.
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I find thinking about the follow through counter productive. What I try to do is to hit the cueball in a positive fashion (with an accellerating stroke). When you do that the cue naturally follow through, unless you stop it. If you use a classic snooker stance and technique the follow through will be determined by your grip on the cue, as the hand will be stopped by the chest. As I no longer use this kind of strict stance, I have absolutely no idea how far I follow through, and I don't even want to know. The feedback to the hand from the strike on the cueball tells me all I need to know.
My hand stops at the chest, but it doesn't hit the chest. I don't know of too many top snooker pros that follow that advice anymore of having the hand actually hit the chest.
Scott Lee or Randy G are the two guys that will be telling the gospel in this thread. If either of them chime in just listen to what they say about this.
Well, follow through is defined as the moment the tip hits the ball to when the cue stops moving. Technically, it is when the cue tip comes off the cb, which is .001 seconds after contact. (1/8th" to 1/4" of cb movement)
yes, its a good "rule of thumb" in pool as well, but there are exceptions. It doesn't have to be "exactly the same". Just make sure you have a decent follow through.
There are two school of thoughts:
1. As you mentioned "golf style" - i.e. backswing (backstroke) depends on hit required. Short for slow shots/long backswing for power shots. Players that comes to my mind are Ding Junhui, Graham Dott. I guess most playes belong to this category.
2. Longer backswing for most shots where hit is determined by rate of acceleration. It results in smoother delivery e.g. Ronnie O'sullivan, Mark Selby, Chris Melling.
It is really personal preference. You can reach at top either way. If you can control longer backswing go for it
I use longer backswing as i helps me feel nice and loose and avoids jabbing at the ball under pressure.
1. As you mentioned "golf style" - i.e. backswing (backstroke) depends on hit required. Short for slow shots/long backswing for power shots. Players that comes to my mind are Ding Junhui, Graham Dott. I guess most playes belong to this category.
2. Longer backswing for most shots where hit is determined by rate of acceleration. It results in smoother delivery e.g. Ronnie O'sullivan, Mark Selby, Chris Melling.
It is really personal preference. You can reach at top either way. If you can control longer backswing go for it
I use longer backswing as i helps me feel nice and loose and avoids jabbing at the ball under pressure.
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Shouldn't the backstroke be a good pulling motion?
The final forward stroke a good throwing motion?
The final forward stroke a good throwing motion?
I spent my youth in sin and misery at a house in New Orleans. One of the ladies working there taught me these lessons early in life.
As a young man at the time, the lessons learned there were huge in my life. I never considered using the same hand on the butt and chest. I thought I was doing good with my ambidexterity. :thumbup:
I was always taught to get right through the cue ball. I pull the cue back so the tip makes its way back to my V on most shots and my follow through is as long as possible until the grip hits my chest. It's not necessary by any means but it's what I've discovered works for me. The grip hitting the chest is an excellent tool to use. If you can learn to feel the exact part of the chest that's hit then you can strive to hit that particular part every shot to make sure you cue straight. It isn't everyone's cup of tea, and can be quite awkward if not used to it.
I think your backstroke should be long enough to allow a smooth acceleration during your shot stroke, but not so long that you have to consciously "brake" your stroke for soft shots. To me this means slightly different length backstrokes for different shots.
I think your follow through should be a natural byproduct of not slowing your stroke before hitting the CB - just allowing your arm speed to naturally slow down after contact. To me this means slightly different length follow through for different shots.
So I guess I agree that the lengths of your backstroke and follow through should correspond (maybe not match), but only because that's the natural result of gradual acceleration and natural follow through.
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I think your follow through should be a natural byproduct of not slowing your stroke before hitting the CB - just allowing your arm speed to naturally slow down after contact. To me this means slightly different length follow through for different shots.
So I guess I agree that the lengths of your backstroke and follow through should correspond (maybe not match), but only because that's the natural result of gradual acceleration and natural follow through.
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chgo
Can I get an explanation of a piston stroke? I think I know and that I do it I just want the opinion and clarification by someone who has been around longer.
When you raise and lower your elbow, usually to keep your back hand moving on a straight horizontal line rather than in an arc like a pendulum.
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Massive elbow drop in an attempt to keep the cue as level to the table as possible during the entire stroke.