Bad Advise and the People Giving It
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No one on the net is real.
Nothing found on the net is accurate.
My rule: Buy four books on the subject, none of which use any of the other three as reference. Anything any three of them agree upon is probably right.
Remember where you found this piece of enlightenment and who gave it to you.
Nothing found on the net is accurate.
My rule: Buy four books on the subject, none of which use any of the other three as reference. Anything any three of them agree upon is probably right.
Remember where you found this piece of enlightenment and who gave it to you.
I also recognized FL's writing style as soon as I started reading the quote. Jeff, for God's sake, if you are going to initiate a thread, at least have the decency to reply to every post made (thinking "Why doesn't everyone have such a tasty avatar?").
As it is with everything in life, experience is really the best teacher. Most everything else should be interpreted through your experience, not at face value.
As it is with everything in life, experience is really the best teacher. Most everything else should be interpreted through your experience, not at face value.
While I think the guy went overboard in his specifics, I kinda agree with the advice.....IMHO, an individual coming into any sport has to earn better equipment.....while better equipment can help anybody, I have to confess that I automatically lose complete respect for anyone that has equipment far beyond their talents....ie, 40 handicap golfers with $5k worth of clubs, a pool hack with a $5k cue, or a cyclist with a $5k bike that has $2 lungs 
......reminds me of the term, "more money than sense"......these days, I still just call them a poser....think that came from skateboarding????
As you progress, so should your equipment.....the best player in the world could be on fire and beat you with a broom stick in a race to 10, but one of the worst players is still gonna lose to a good player, no matter how much his cue is worth....
Now, I will say that those who rarely or never play up to the potential of the expensive equipment often lose interest and increase the odds of finding good, affordable, hardly-used high end used equipment
......reminds me of the term, "more money than sense"......these days, I still just call them a poser....think that came from skateboarding????As you progress, so should your equipment.....the best player in the world could be on fire and beat you with a broom stick in a race to 10, but one of the worst players is still gonna lose to a good player, no matter how much his cue is worth....
Now, I will say that those who rarely or never play up to the potential of the expensive equipment often lose interest and increase the odds of finding good, affordable, hardly-used high end used equipment
Jeff said:
advice (noun), not advise (verb),,,,and why not spell 'moori' correctly, also.
Everyone is writing books these days
About 10 years ago I was browsing a bookstore for pool books. One title (don't remember any details) was nicely illustrated and professionally produced. All I remember was that it was was co-authored by a man and a woman. I flipped to a page which dealt with kick shots, and was surprised to find that it advised using draw on a narrow angle, full-hit kick-safety shot in order to 'kill' the cue ball, while sending the object ball to the other end of the table. I didn't really know jack about kicking at that point, but I knew that this advice was bass-ackwards.
http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AfEC4BHHe3CUef3DNLu4EDCs2FMqO4GdGs4HSbf3IALW4PAMm4kAMm4kEGj4kGRt2uClA@
It could have been an editorial error—a glitch in thought process (AKA brain fart), but I suspect that it was a gross misconception on the part of the authors - something which seemed to make sense, but that they had never actually tried.
About 10 years ago I was browsing a bookstore for pool books. One title (don't remember any details) was nicely illustrated and professionally produced. All I remember was that it was was co-authored by a man and a woman. I flipped to a page which dealt with kick shots, and was surprised to find that it advised using draw on a narrow angle, full-hit kick-safety shot in order to 'kill' the cue ball, while sending the object ball to the other end of the table. I didn't really know jack about kicking at that point, but I knew that this advice was bass-ackwards.
http://CueTable.com/P/?@1AfEC4BHHe3CUef3DNLu4EDCs2FMqO4GdGs4HSbf3IALW4PAMm4kAMm4kEGj4kGRt2uClA@
It could have been an editorial error—a glitch in thought process (AKA brain fart), but I suspect that it was a gross misconception on the part of the authors - something which seemed to make sense, but that they had never actually tried.
good or glitter?
I agree that buying something flashy doesn't necessarily make sense for a beginner but I will ask you to explain to me why someone should handicap themselves starting with less than top quality equipment if they can afford the best?
Hu
Big Perm said:
I agree that buying something flashy doesn't necessarily make sense for a beginner but I will ask you to explain to me why someone should handicap themselves starting with less than top quality equipment if they can afford the best?
Hu
bsmutz said:
There you go.
What got me about the answer, besides the fact that Larry had no idea about the guy, was his advice for the guy to to have his shaft sanded down each time he "steps up" (so to speak) in ability, finally getting all the way down to an 11.5mm.
I'd like to take a poll on another thread, if it hasn't been done already, on just how many people play pool with a shaft below 12mm
Free advice is worth every penny...
ScottW said:Um Jeff... not to pick nits, but Snapshot was right re: advise vs. advice
How embarassing...
Russ
Big Perm said:While I think the guy went overboard in his specifics, I kinda agree with the advice.....IMHO, an individual coming into any sport has to earn better equipment.....while better equipment can help anybody, I have to confess that I automatically lose complete respect for anyone that has equipment far beyond their talents....ie, 40 handicap golfers with $5k worth of clubs, a pool hack with a $5k cue, or a cyclist with a $5k bike that has $2 lungs
As you progress, so should your equipment.....the best player in the world could be on fire and beat you with a broom stick in a race to 10, but one of the worst players is still gonna lose to a good player, no matter how much his cue is worth....
Now, I will say that those who rarely or never play up to the potential of the expensive equipment often lose interest and increase the odds of finding good, affordable, hardly-used high end used equipment
Really, how often is it the case that when someone buys a good or great piece of equipment that they are anything less than inspired by it?
I've never understood the motive of the "sell down" advice that is always accompanied by the "broomstick" cliche. As if someone has to be worthy of some standard set by others to own a good piece of equipment. It often seems that the advice that someone shouldn't spend more than x amount on a cue based on their ability is based on jealousy rather than a concern for the person's long term satisfaction of their purchase and enjoyment of the game.
And since this is about bad advice, I suggest anyone take what I say with a healthy amount of skepticism!
Did you get the don't miss option?
When I owned my pool room I used to have A/B players and many, many bangers. I used to sell lower end cues ($50-100 retail types). I always asked if they would like the "No Miss Option" for an extra $20. Eighty percent said they would. The other 20% said they didn't have enough money but would be back later to have it installed
Bob
When I owned my pool room I used to have A/B players and many, many bangers. I used to sell lower end cues ($50-100 retail types). I always asked if they would like the "No Miss Option" for an extra $20. Eighty percent said they would. The other 20% said they didn't have enough money but would be back later to have it installed
Bob