bad transaction by memeber on az

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mikeyfish

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just wanted some opinions on a deal i had made with another az member.I would rather not bad mouth this person till i see what my friends on az have to say ,a member on here was selling a cue for $600 and also was taking trade offers i had sent him a pm and told me he needed more money so we decided on trading my cue plus $200 cash he saw the pictures and asked if i could send my cue plus a money order even though he was not sending his cue out till he got mine and the money to make sure it was in good shape so i took a chance .After a week went by i got an email today telling me hes sending my cue back and my money because he doesnt feel the cue is worth it after he agreed and made me send a postal money order and my cue.The part thats really pissed my off is the fact he was trying to sell my cue on az before he even got it he was trying to sell it/ trade it with out ever even having it in his hands what if some one had paid him and the cue was broke then what this guy is a real assh???.He makes it hard for the nice people on here to do deals
 
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Personally I think you should out this guy if everything you said is true. I do not believe many would want to deal with this individual if they are pulling stunts like this.
Renee
 
yeah man who was this joker. that kind of dealing shouldn't go unannounced
what if he does it again to someone else
 
I would really have to consider asking for expenses incurred with shipping. I only say this because he was putting "feelers" out on your cue. Then when he did not get the response he wanted he backed out. You may be pissing up a rope but its worth a shot.

Renee
 
Just for arguements sake, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. From your description it seems like his acceptance of the deal was contingent upon receiving your cue and being satisfied with it's condition. Apparently the cue didn't meet his standards and now he's returning it to you as agreed. Technically, I see no problems.

Having said that though:
1) A week is a little long for an inspection period, but if you didn't specify a time limit, then we are left to debate whether a week is reasonable or not. You also didn't mention whether the week was 72hrs of inspection then four days of shipping, or whether it was seven days of inspection and then shipping time on top of that. I feel the former is reasonable, and the latter is on the outside edge of reasonable.
2) Your buyer trying to flip the cue that he hasn't received yet is a little risky on his part. However, once you sent him the cue and cash you left the final approval of the transaction in his hands. If he liked the cue he can keep or sell as he chooses, and if he didn't like the cue then you agreed to take it back.

I think what you have experienced is a hassle, and you should count yoursef lucky that you didn't actually lose anything here. I'm currently in a transaction where I paid $1,500 probably 10 weeks ago now, and haven't seen the product delivered yet... (cuephoric) In another recent transaction I negotiated for 6 weeks every other day with a guy on a SW. When I finally agreed to his terms, he stopped all communication for 10 days, then came back and said that the cue was sold. Technically (and leagally) we had an agreement. He made an offer, I accepted, and his later sale is a breach of that agreement. Yes Ock, this was you.

My point is that some people are dicks. Just call this guy a *&^%$$#@ privately, be glad you didn't lose any money, and remember the lesson.
 
i sent him an email today in response to his regarding mailing my cue back and my moeny and he still has not even emailed me back i wanted to know when hes sending it and how he is sending my money being i sent a postal money order in his name how can any one try to sell a cue they dont even have yet thats what pissed me off if he sold it then we had a deal if we didnt then i get mine back what an ass
 
Mr Hoppe said:
Just for arguements sake, I'm going to play devil's advocate here. From your description it seems like his acceptance of the deal was contingent upon receiving your cue and being satisfied with it's condition. Apparently the cue didn't meet his standards and now he's returning it to you as agreed. Technically, I see no problems.

Having said that though:
1) A week is a little long for an inspection period, but if you didn't specify a time limit, then we are left to debate whether a week is reasonable or not. You also didn't mention whether the week was 72hrs of inspection then four days of shipping, or whether it was seven days of inspection and then shipping time on top of that. I feel the former is reasonable, and the latter is on the outside edge of reasonable.
2) Your buyer trying to flip the cue that he hasn't received yet is a little risky on his part. However, once you sent him the cue and cash you left the final approval of the transaction in his hands. If he liked the cue he can keep or sell as he chooses, and if he didn't like the cue then you agreed to take it back.

I think what you have experienced is a hassle, and you should count yoursef lucky that you didn't actually lose anything here. I'm currently in a transaction where I paid $1,500 probably 10 weeks ago now, and haven't seen the product delivered yet... (cuephoric) In another recent transaction I negotiated for 6 weeks every other day with a guy on a SW. When I finally agreed to his terms, he stopped all communication for 10 days, then came back and said that the cue was sold. Technically (and leagally) we had an agreement. He made an offer, I accepted, and his later sale is a breach of that agreement. Yes Ock, this was you.

My point is that some people are dicks. Just call this guy a *&^%$$#@ privately, be glad you didn't lose any money, and remember the lesson.
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I agree that things could have been worse. Assuming he gets his property back. That said.....

We dont know that he is disputing the condition of the cue. Only that the value may had not been what he was expecting(ie trying to sell cue without direct knowledge of cues condition).
 
here was his quote after i sent him the tracking number and money order/
ok...if I recieve your cue sometime this coming week, your will be on your hand a couple of days after. I will pm or email you back for the tracking number of my cue. Thanks!
 
It's maybe a little to soon to be posting here!?

Hi Mikey,

I can feel your pain and my gut tells me that you've gotten yourself into a transaction that you don't feel real warm and fuzzy about :rolleyes:

I think we all have made some questionable/poor choices in various deals; however, from what I've read here I would suggest IMHO that it's a little to early to be posting your dissatisfaction here on this forum!?

If you get your cue back and your $$$ and are made whole then I'm not sure what you have to complain about actually.....other than it may have been a bad decision to make this type of an arrangement in the first place?!?!

Best of luck for a positive resolution,

Ken ;)
 
let us know who this joker is so the rest of us is aware who he is and won't deal with him in the future. let you friends know who he is.
 
i must have misunderstood.i read that the guy was trying to sell the cue that he didn't yet own on AZ and then when he couldn't sell it,decided to return it.BS in my book.
 
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Well, I'm glad it's not me. I have had people in the past list a cue for sale or pre sell it while it's on the way to them. However, it really did not bother me. I can see the point that mabye he was discouraged by his results posting it for sale and that might have flawed his judgement a little bit. I always make my deal where cues pass in the air with the agreement that if one is unhappy undo the deal. In the future just know that anybody that is skiddish like that who wants the cue first is probably a little on the knitty side to begin with and just pass on the deal. Some people are funny and get goofy over nothing or buyers remorse. Pics of a cue sometimes make the cue look bette or worse and a buyer and seller should always have a 1 day descision period to undo the deal in my opinion. I will never spend the money until a final approval is given. However, he would not of had my cue that long with out a descision from him. That was bull@#$#. Same day arrival, Descision right then. Period!!!!! IMO Do not out him as I feel that would be a dis service to Azer's here. You have to take some responsibilty for doing the deal this way.
 
Yeah, very shadey. Not cool to list a cue you've never seen before. Outting him will help other people on this great site.
 
I'm going to disagree here somewhat!?

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who's the guy

mikey, just post who the guy is.

if he is legit, that will surface. if not, he will be buried on az.

simple. sweet. elegant!

just my $0.02 cents worth
 
smokey said:
mikey, just post who the guy is.

if he is legit, that will surface. if not, he will be buried on az.

simple. sweet. elegant!

just my $0.02 cents worth
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And hopefully he gets his money and cue back before the lions have their meal. My 1.5 cents.
 
Didn't we just have a issue similar to this (well, this isn't quite as bad) where a young AZBer had traded for a cue and tried to sell/trade it without completing his side of the bargain? I don't know all the details of this transaction, Mikey, but it just doesn't seem right. Hope you get your stuff back, then,at least, you can move on with minimal loss.
Joe
 
Say what you want. If this happened as described I think it is pretty silly to post a cue for sale, then send it back when it either did not sell or you found it unacceptable. Talk about having your cake and eating it too.

I believe the word is nit.
 
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