(Banging my head) Danny Harriman

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Hey guys I'm sorry! The title should be "Looking for business partners" instead of "Seeking for business partners" according to our great member "memikey". So please forgive me for that, thanks!

Gary Cheng from Taiwan and Taiwanese people are quite honest, I mean it.
 
You think pool players are the only ones taking prostitutes in and out of hotels, every male professional in DC does it twice daily, married ones three times.
 
You think pool players are the only ones taking prostitutes in and out of hotels, every male professional in DC does it twice daily, married ones three times.

"Every male professional in D.C." seems a little exaggerated, but I'll grant you that, in fact, it does happen everywhere, even in D.C. :frown:

It's rampant the pool world. As well, male pool peeps have little regard for females, other than as a piece of you-know-what. It's a shame, really. In this regard, pool is way, way behind the times. It took women a long time to get to vote because they were looked at as if they didn't have a brain.

Sadly, in the pool world, some males celebrate women for one thing and one thing only, and it ain't how good they can shoot pool. You can guess what that "one thing" is.
 
This attitude is not limited to the pool world.

The same could be said for most professional sports. Baseball, Football, Basketball.



"Every male professional in D.C." seems a little exaggerated, but I'll grant you that, in fact, it does happen everywhere, even in D.C. :frown:

It's rampant the pool world. As well, male pool peeps have little regard for females, other than as a piece of you-know-what. It's a shame, really. In this regard, pool is way, way behind the times. It took women a long time to get to vote because they were looked at as if they didn't have a brain.

Sadly, in the pool world, some males celebrate women for one thing and one thing only, and it ain't how good they can shoot pool. You can guess what that "one thing" is.
 
This attitude is not limited to the pool world.

The same could be said for most professional sports. Baseball, Football, Basketball.

Yeah, look at Tiger Woods. :rolleyes:

It still doesn't make it right. I mean, in my opinion, the Mosconi Cup is probably "the" most prestigious pool event in the world, bar none. The only advantage of these precious so-called BCA "ranking points" is to be awarded the opportunity to compete on Team USA.

Why on earth then would you go to the Mosconi Cup as a member of Team USA, representing America, an opportunity that most, if not all, pro pool players would really enjoy having, only to spend the majority of your time in a hotel room with prostitutes? I mean, something seems wrong with this picture in my opinion.

If I expended my time and money to compete in every single precious BCA-ranked event to get those BCA ranking points so I could be selected by Matchroom Sports to be one of the five Team USA members, I sure as hell would want to practice, hang out with my team members, and give it my all.

I feel very strongly that if you are going to do something, do it right or don't do it at all. There's other American pro players who would really enjoy being a part of that Mosconi Cup experience, don't you think?

I could elaborate more on how the pool world, in particular, has a high degree of discrimination of females with illustrations of how men treat women in general in the pool world. But I'm a mere minority on this forum, and I'm sure, just like you, more male members will come with parallels on how this is a behavior that's rampant everywhere, not just pool. Well, it sure as heck doesn't make it right, and it's more prevalent in the pool world than other sports.
 
I agree it is not right.

Fixing it is a whole other problem.


Yeah, look at Tiger Woods. :rolleyes:

It still doesn't make it right. I mean, in my opinion, the Mosconi Cup is probably "the" most prestigious pool event in the world, bar none. The only advantage of these precious so-called BCA "ranking points" is to be awarded the opportunity to compete on Team USA.

Why on earth then would you go to the Mosconi Cup as a member of Team USA, representing America, an opportunity that most, if not all, pro pool players would really enjoy having, only to spend the majority of your time in a hotel room with prostitutes? I mean, something seems wrong with this picture in my opinion.

If I expended my time and money to compete in every single precious BCA-ranked event to get those BCA ranking points so I could be selected by Matchroom Sports to be one of the five Team USA members, I sure as hell would want to practice, hang out with my team members, and give it my all.

I feel very strongly that if you are going to do something, do it right or don't do it at all. There's other American pro players who would really enjoy being a part of that Mosconi Cup experience, don't you think?

I could elaborate more on how the pool world, in particular, has a high degree of discrimination of females with illustrations of how men treat women in general in the pool world. But I'm a mere minority on this forum, and I'm sure, just like you, more male members will come with parallels on how this is a behavior that's rampant everywhere, not just pool. Well, it sure as heck doesn't make it right, and it's more prevalent in the pool world than other sports.
 
This is just an update for any fans that I may have or accumulated while posting my threads about the shortcummings of certain promoters, Brady Behrman sent me a private E-Mail requesting my address so he could send the doe that is owed. As normal I gave him the same address as always, he just sent me a new E-Mail stating that he has sent $1000.00 dollars to the UPA and that they will disperce the $ to me. This is a different arrangement than what we had agreed upon, if this story is true then he will still owe me a grand total of $850.00, I think everyone who has followed this story understands that the $ orders he claimed to have sent were indeed ficticious.
I finished in 7th place and tied with Archer (one of the lucky ones who got paid.) After all of the crap I have been through now I have to worry about the UPA taking out $100.00 for their fee,I would like all of the forum viewers to understand that I talked to a writer for the Billiard Digest and asked if he would print the wrong doings of Brady and he would not. Now we all get in over our heads but Brady's lack of concern in this matter annoys me or as he would say it sucks. What I'm trying to say is this forum is one of my only chances in getting paid so your feedback is important to me if no one else.
When I asked Frank Alvbarez (UPA Leading Rep.) about the $ owed from the upa event in Virginia he his words were "thats not the upa's fault" however it might be interesting to note that Charlie Williams one of the founders and ex-president of the organization said "it kind of is the upa's fault since we sanctioned the event." I do appreciate Charlies honesty and I will continue to keep yall posted about what's going down.
Thanks for reading and all of your positive comments are welcomed I do feel that Brady will pay what he owes I just worry because his lack of concern does not impress me at all. If I was in his shoes I would have been in contact with me and would have worked out some sort of payment plan over three years ago. But I guess everything is funny when you owe people big money.

Could you fill us in on what exactly happened?? I scanned through this whole thread.Too much to read.
What place did you take?
What tournament?
How long ago?
How much do they owe you?
What have you been paid?

Im sure I am not the only one that has not seen anything about this before. If I am ,then I apologize.

But not getting paid after doing well in a tournament is a outrage and is not acceptable,,for any reason!!! And it seems it has been years. I'd e be pissed too.
After that amount of time,,,being private is out the window!!!!
 
Could you fill us in on what exactly happened?? I scanned through this whole thread.Too much to read.
What place did you take?
What tournament?
How long ago?
How much do they owe you?
What have you been paid?

Im sure I am not the only one that has not seen anything about this before. If I am ,then I apologize.

But not getting paid after doing well in a tournament is a outrage and is not acceptable,,for any reason!!! And it seems it has been years. I'd e be pissed too.
After that amount of time,,,being private is out the window!!!!

It was the Mid-Atlantic 9-Ball Championship, which occurred exactly one week after the Music City Open and the Derby City Classic. Also, it was held on Super Bowl weekend. To add insult to injury, there was a snow blizzard. It was held January 2003 at the then-Holiday Inn, which was right next door to where the U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship used to be held (Chesapeake Beach Conference Center).

Brady Behrman, Barry Behrman's son, who I have respect for and is a friend of mine, promoted this tournament sans his father. It was his first attempt at hosting a big pool tournament of this magnitude.

Due to the snow blizzard, the spectator seats were filled with mostly locals, pool players in the event, pool players' friends. Local prostitutes came during the late evening hours during the last match of each night. They were very friendly with the tournament competitors.

There were vendors there out in the hallway, but due to what I think may have been Brady's lack of experience, he didn't collect the vendor booth fees beforehand. The vendors were all b*tching and moaning about how they did not sell one thing, and they did not pay Brady the booth fees, monies he was counting on for the tournament payouts.

The very last night of the event, me and mine were sitting in the bar of the Holiday Inn -- where else? :angry: -- and I saw Brady and his wife on the other side of the bar. There was nobody else in the joint. Everybody split and left to go home, I guess. I saw Brady's wife begin to cry. She actually was sobbing and ran to the ladies' room. Brady followed her. I didn't know what had happened at that time, and I was concerned, as I do like Brady.

Well, as it turned out, Brady didn't have the money to pay some of the payouts, especially the larger payouts, at the conclusion of the event. The players who won and got in the money wanted to get paid. I think he tried to pay out as much as he could, like the lower payouts. Though he is Barry Behrman's son, some felt that Barry should have stepped up to the plate and covered the payout monies, but Barry's thought -- and rightfully so -- was that it was not his tournament and he shouldn't be held accountable. Therein began the beginning of the storm between Danny Harriman and the Behrmans.

I believe Blackjack did try to intervene, speaking to Brady and Danny, hoping to get Danny paid, but I don't think the entire debt was satisfied.

Here's the pictures of the event. In fact, you should have seen all the great players in attendance: http://www.azbilliards.com/gallery/showgallery.php?gallerynum=23

I still have a T-shirt. Might be a collector's item. This was the first and only Mid-Atlantic 9-Ball Championship, to my knowledge. I will say this, the place was packed with an all-star cast of players. It was like a Who's Who in the Pool World at that time in 2003. It's a shame that the timing was bad as well as Mother Nature not cooperating. Most people can't afford to take off work and go to the DCC, the Music City Open, and then this event, the Mid-Atlantic 9-Ball Championship, all in the same month. That is what, in my opinion, created the state of affairs that took place. :frown:


It reminds me of the time that Keith was playing pool in Burlington, Iowa. He was in the money rounds but didn't bother showing up the next day. Rumor had it that the tournament organizer, or one of them, lost the entire prize money in a gambling match the night before. Everybody knew they weren't going to get paid, so nobody showed up. :p

Check out the stands on a typical night of that event. What do you see? Players. And that's about it. Nobody came. Brady was counting on, probably, gate fees, vendor fees, et cetera, and they just didn't follow through. Lesson learned for sure. I know Brady feels terrible about it, no matter what anybody says. In my world, when I don't get paid by somebody who files bankruptcy, whatever, I got to eat the loss. I can claim it on my taxes, but only after I initiate legal action. It's the cost of doing business, unfortunately, and I definitely can empathize with Danny Harriman, an American champion, who paid good money to attend this event, e.g., food, hotel, travel, et cetera. Not getting paid was a slap in the face in what is always an underpaid industry. Welcome to American pool!
 

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Here's another pic from the event of Danny, taken by Diana Hoppe.

Danny has a nice smile in this picture. He was so happy that he won and came in the money, high in the charts.
 

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Here's me and mine. This was at the beginning of my pool journey with Keith. I had so much enthusiasm about pool back then. Boy, did things change with the coming of the UPA, the withdrawal of the BCA's involvement in professional pool, favoritism, pool politics, and the industry members who have selective memories, et cetera, et cetera.

I used to have a permanent smile on my face when I would go to these pool tournaments at the start. I really did have fun.

About the only thing I can say about pool is I do have some happy memories. That's about it! :D
 

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Here's the winner! I heard he got lucky! :thumbup:
 

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To Billy,

I made this post as a joke between you and me, but the forum ego-flexers felt the need to ruin my fun; therefore, I have removed this post and the attachment.

I didn't bother to correct the misinformation posted by another about you and your old pool room, as it doesn't really have anything to do with this thread.

If anything, I am sorry your name was dragged into this thread for what was initially intended to only be fun.

Best regards, Billy, if you ever read this thread! ;)
 
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Well,,that sucks. I really didn't expect an answer like this. I'm at a loss for words.




It was the Mid-Atlantic 9-Ball Championship, which occurred exactly one week after the Music City Open and the Derby City Classic. Also, it was held on Super Bowl weekend. To add insult to injury, there was a snow blizzard. It was held January 2003 at the then-Holiday Inn, which was right next door to where the U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship used to be held (Chesapeake Beach Conference Center).

Brady Behrman, Barry Behrman's son, who I have respect for and is a friend of mine, promoted this tournament sans his father. It was his first attempt at hosting a big pool tournament of this magnitude.

Due to the snow blizzard, the spectator seats were filled with mostly locals, pool players in the event, pool players' friends. Local prostitutes came during the late evening hours during the last match of each night. They were very friendly with the tournament competitors.

There were vendors there out in the hallway, but due to what I think may have been Brady's lack of experience, he didn't collect the vendor booth fees beforehand. The vendors were all b*tching and moaning about how they did not sell one thing, and they did not pay Brady the booth fees, monies he was counting on for the tournament payouts.

The very last night of the event, me and mine were sitting in the bar of the Holiday Inn -- where else? :angry: -- and I saw Brady and his wife on the other side of the bar. There was nobody else in the joint. Everybody split and left to go home, I guess. I saw Brady's wife begin to cry. She actually was sobbing and ran to the ladies' room. Brady followed her. I didn't know what had happened at that time, and I was concerned, as I do like Brady.

Well, as it turned out, Brady didn't have the money to pay some of the payouts, especially the larger payouts, at the conclusion of the event. The players who won and got in the money wanted to get paid. I think he tried to pay out as much as he could, like the lower payouts. Though he is Barry Behrman's son, some felt that Barry should have stepped up to the plate and covered the payout monies, but Barry's thought -- and rightfully so -- was that it was not his tournament and he shouldn't be held accountable. Therein began the beginning of the storm between Danny Harriman and the Behrmans.

I believe Blackjack did try to intervene, speaking to Brady and Danny, hoping to get Danny paid, but I don't think the entire debt was satisfied.

Here's the pictures of the event. In fact, you should have seen all the great players in attendance: http://www.azbilliards.com/gallery/showgallery.php?gallerynum=23

I still have a T-shirt. Might be a collector's item. This was the first and only Mid-Atlantic 9-Ball Championship, to my knowledge. I will say this, the place was packed with an all-star cast of players. It was like a Who's Who in the Pool World at that time in 2003. It's a shame that the timing was bad as well as Mother Nature not cooperating. Most people can't afford to take off work and go to the DCC, the Music City Open, and then this event, the Mid-Atlantic 9-Ball Championship, all in the same month. That is what, in my opinion, created the state of affairs that took place. :frown:


It reminds me of the time that Keith was playing pool in Burlington, Iowa. He was in the money rounds but didn't bother showing up the next day. Rumor had it that the tournament organizer, or one of them, lost the entire prize money in a gambling match the night before. Everybody knew they weren't going to get paid, so nobody showed up. :p

Check out the stands on a typical night of that event. What do you see? Players. And that's about it. Nobody came. Brady was counting on, probably, gate fees, vendor fees, et cetera, and they just didn't follow through. Lesson learned for sure. I know Brady feels terrible about it, no matter what anybody says. In my world, when I don't get paid by somebody who files bankruptcy, whatever, I got to eat the loss. I can claim it on my taxes, but only after I initiate legal action. It's the cost of doing business, unfortunately, and I definitely can empathize with Danny Harriman, an American champion, who paid good money to attend this event, e.g., food, hotel, travel, et cetera. Not getting paid was a slap in the face in what is always an underpaid industry. Welcome to American pool!
 
Well, speaking of whores, pros disrespecting women, I must sell them out.... Sorry man...

Again, back in 2005, Gabe was sharing room with Corey while Johnny shared with Jeremy in the best hotel in Kaohsiung. Well, I don't know about Johnny and Jeremy but it seemed like Johnny is a good family man, so I doubt he would bring whores to his room. And Jeremy is a real cool guy too as he even bought me a few beers, anyway, I don't think he's a whore-seeker. But one night Corey and Schmidt went hang out with the then-famous Jennifer Chan and her friends, before Corey left the place Gabe told him, "No matter what you do, don't bring an orgy back." So I guess Corey had a habit of having sex with multiple females at the same time and Gabe wanted a piece of it. But at least they weren't planned to pay for it, they want it for free which is a lot nicer than getting a whore. At that time Gabe's mom was here in this forum but I kept my mouth shut just so that Gabe wouldn't get his butt slapped by his mom. And after 7 years, I don't really consider it a sell-out.

But let's put the whores on the side man, ok, if you insist to get the whores involved then isn't it true that you need money to get one? So let's think about how to earn some extra income first by going to Non-Pool-Related and look for threads "Seeking for business partners" or "Looking for business partners." Both the same. End of the story.
 
Man, I had forgotten you played in this one, my friend! ;)

[Name withheld to protect the innocent.]

Jen,

For the life of me I can't put a name with the face. Played him at the New York State 9 Ball in Binghamton several times. Last time I saw him, he denied ever playing me. Billy Something I think...... PM OK.

Lyn
 
Jen,

For the life of me I can't put a name with the face. Played him at the New York State 9 Ball in Binghamton several times. Last time I saw him, he denied ever playing me. Billy Something I think...... PM OK.

Lyn

I can't out him. He still likes to fly under the radar, even after all of these years. If he sees this thread, he might post. I'll let him do the honors! ;)
 
I can't out him. He still likes to fly under the radar, even after all of these years. If he sees this thread, he might post. I'll let him do the honors! ;)

I won't out him, but I'd like to see him post....
...he can play on a 6x12 also...
 
I can't out him. He still likes to fly under the radar, even after all of these years. If he sees this thread, he might post. I'll let him do the honors! ;)

Lol you are not going to out him! You posted a picture of him! Do you really think that people need a name to recognize him now? I can honestly say I had never seen the guy before but now if I see him I will know he is a player.
 
Lol you are not going to out him! You posted a picture of him! Do you really think that people need a name to recognize him now? I can honestly say I had never seen the guy before but now if I see him I will know he is a player.

I don't think he really cares, truth be told. It's an inside joke, but go ahead and make a big deal about it. That's the only time you respond to any of my posts, anyway. Sheesh!
 
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