There’s no way to really know if your watching a show, match or dump. They all look the same, relax and enjoy.
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Bar Table Dennis Vs SVB Updates
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Great recaps. I've tried updating with details in a tournament and can't come close to your descriptions. Can't fathom how you capture that detail and type with enough speed on barbox games. Are you typing, or have a great voice to text voice that captures every word perfectly?
Maybe they should add one more stat line. Racks conceded. Or maybe Racks conceded with more than 1 ball remaining. Sounds like Dennis gave up a couple last night.
I'm typing. I can type about 85 words a minute without looking.Great recaps. I've tried updating with details in a tournament and can't come close to your descriptions. Can't fathom how you capture that detail and type with enough speed on barbox games. Are you typing, or have a great voice to text voice that captures every word perfectly?
Jaden
Shane looks the part of a professional breaking and running 49 of 100 racks; playing for $100K+ (supposedly). Dennis looks like the local transient. Slides with black socks? Really? If one were to ask the non pool fan who the professional was based on appearance, no one would pick Dennis.I would imagine that Dennis, one of the best players in the world, wishes they were playing on 5 ft table with 5 inch pockets.
For those interested in the attire, Shane is in a black polo with sponsor patches, black short pants, and black Addidas sneakers... can't tell if he is wearing socks or not.
Dennis opted for the flat billed cap, tan collared shirt, some type of muted colored athletic shorts, and black and white flops(or slides) with black socks.
Great play by play Jaden...degrees better than the live commentary...of course they sounded like they were bored of seeing Dennis get eviscerated for a 2nd night...
Yes, and count me among them. In my eighteen years on this forum, the number of bets that I have made on an action match is zero.
Me and the many others like me are regulars at NON GAMBLERS ANONYMOUS meetings, where we try to recover from the life altering scars inflicted upon us by being NON GAMBLERS. We also spend a lot of time talking about whose lives we are living life through. Our jealousy for those who gamble is boundless, and it's amazing that we are able to maintain our emotional well-being without partaking.
I'm fine with all who choose to gamble frequently and wish them luck, but the implication that they, as a group, are somehow the go-getters in this world simply doesn't jive with my observations.
Guess we come from very different worlds.
I might like Matlock on a Valley in his prime...but I love SVB on a Diamond.Matlock disagrees j/k
Stu,
I have always had the highest respect for you since I’ve known you. You also are a very very important person in pool as you have done so much for pool and I recognize that. The world needs 10000000 more people like you.
The fact that you choose not to gamble is very respectable. I’ve went years and not bet on pool and I’ve had 20 bets going at the same time. Gambling has never defined me, I’ve seen it destroy so many life’s living in Vegas.
IMO it creates games and gives people a reason to play, which is great for the audience and those who choose to watch I encourage to watch and enjoy. They need not bet or be involved with that aspect of the game. Action can drive a game to happen-it makes games happen. Alex & SVB will never play each other for “fun”. So it’s a necessary part of pool. Just as the viewers are or historians(which are hugely important). But action and people who aren’t part of it need to stay in their own lanes.
nobody in action is entitled to anything special or extra, doesn’t make them better, smarter etc. just puts them in the action part of the game. The non action side is equally as important.
What I don’t like are the nonbettors getting or trying to get information that’s none of their biz just for the sake of gossip and getting involved when they aren’t involved. Or even worse going public with private information, misinformation or the worst partial information on a game, match, bet size, settlement. If your not betting-stay out of the biz. Not betting isn’t a bad thing. Not betting and sticking your nose in is bad.
If I never bet on another match in my life, I’m ok with that. I mite make a bet tmr. What I’m not going to do is stick my nose where it doesn’t belong. Causing damage to action by doing so.
Anyone who isn’t betting and is observing pool is still a benefit to the game. And helping out the game. I have lots of respect for all of them, the “Make It Happen” events were the recent pinnacle of that group of people. Those weren’t action driven events. And I didn’t hear of anyone asking questions about the players chopping up the money. That’s where the problem starts. Did so and so chop up the $1000 to the winner? This illustrate my point. That chop isn’t anyone’s business. Watch. Enjoy. Well done. That’s a purist way to enjoy pool.
Stu I hope this clears things up. I respect you, like you, always look for you on the rail. Your a part of pool that makes pool interesting-one of the interesting people that make up our world-the pool world.
Kindest regards,
Fatboy<——-a big Stu fan(not joking) I mean that.
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Guilty! I’ve told people that just to get a game many many years ago. It was self serving in a few cases.
However at the same time I do firmly believe gambling did help me become a better player because playing under pressure, speaking for myself keeps me focused and keeps me in the moment. In contrast playing free pool I tend to get lazy and sluff off a shot. So gambling has helped me. But not every time I matched up. I got robbed plenty of times. And did my fair share of robbing other people.
For me that was the fun part of pool. Matching up! That’s a art in and of itself. Getting a draw or seed in a tourney anyone can do. But matching up-another game all together.
respectfully
Depends, if you know the backer is never gonna back you again. Toss him off fast. Don’t need to give him a good show.
I certainly 99.99936% don’t think that’s the case here.
I’m just illustrating a point-ya never really know. The score is just a score. It’s a tell for a dump as they are usually closer, but not a 100% guarantee.
The real question is what’s the line next time they play?
I have played pool for over half a century and I have never bet a dime on any player except myself.
I learned about people being “put in the middle” way back when I was a young kid working in the pool hall and paying attention to what was going on.
I learned about people being “put in the middle” way back when I was a young kid working in the pool hall and paying attention to what was going on.
You yourself know that which stakehorses are involved, or not involved, or how much certain players are willing to bet, can provide very significant information about whether or not the match is on the level. Much moreso than the score, or caliber of play, of the match.
Of course 99% of the PPV viewers at home have no way of knowing who or what is really involved. They are completely at the mercy of whatever info the promoters put out there that what they are getting is a real big money match that they paid for. Technology has made it far too easy to put together a quick 2-3 day PPV money grab, then catch a flight to the next stop.
And it's fairly common knowledge that Shane can be very nitty when it comes to pool gambling, even though he is a total go-off at other things like casino craps. Remember, the advice "when 2 pros play, bet on the guy without the stakehorse" seems to hold up more often than not.
Since we're on the subject of how it all looks the same..... didn't you pull Shane up when he was 3 games loser to Tony Chohan, playing 500/game, some years ago, because you didn't like what you saw?
Of course I gambled on occasion at pool, but I probably gambled less than 1/2 of one percent of the times I played pool, and the reason had nothing to do with reaching my highest possible level. As a rule, my bet was $10 per race to seven set, and when I played people who, experience told me, didn't play full speed except when they gambled, I preferred to play for money.
FYI, Souquet got to the BCA hall of fame while largely sidestepping the action scene and soon to be BCA Hall of Famer Hohmann didn't need the action scene to become one of the only players in history to win a WPA sanctioned World Championship in both straight pool and nine ball. Like Ralf and Thorsten, I never needed to be betting money to reach my highest level of motivation.
OK, we're good. Based on this post, I sense that the sweeping statement you made in your last post was not meant to be taken literally.
Make sure to say hi if you're going to the US Open.
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Please don't tell John Mars, aka "TheMarsman", that he was involved in a "Show". He, his Dad and a good friend of his flew into Oklahoma, staked SVB, got front row seats and lost. That one expensive "Show", LOL. He also stakes SVB again in this match.
Please don't tell John Mars, aka "TheMarsman", that he was involved in a "Show". He, his Dad and a good friend of his flew into Oklahoma, staked SVB, got front row seats and lost. That would have been one expensive "Show" that he was involved in. LOL. He also stakes SVB again in this match.
Ralf is a good friend of mine, he told me “I played for $5 a few times and I didn’t like how it made me feel”. Which I completely respect and understand. I just considered putting that in my other post but they were long enough.
Betting isn’t for everyone, Ralf is living proof, he’s a hell of a player, person and friend. I’ll never play 10% as good as he does.
It’s interesting how we as individuals are all different. That’s the human condition. I don’t like eggs, yuck! Haven’t had a egg to eat since the 70’s. Most people eat them everyday. Who knows why I can’t stand them-but impossible for me to eat one.
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Fatboy<——-really hates eggs!!!
John Mars and his dad are 2 more great people in pool. I’m honored to call them friends and they too have contributed so much to pool.
We all kinda sorta have our own thing in this thing we call pool. And usually it works.
feeling better about things,
Fatboy
