Barry Szamboti cue deal through Chenz gone bad

bobco729 said:
Vinny is lying. I have p.m.'s to support that you did not have the $600.00 and you p.m.'ed me your work address to send the Carolina b/j cue to you, it's still packed in the shipping tube. I will not post again on this thread to comment or rebut. It's gone on long enough.
Tommy is a good guy but just plain wrong.
Paul is from bean town, Vinny's pal. Paul, don't call asking to buy my Gus any more, the answer will always be NO for you.
Bob
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You should post up the pms. Atleast then, we can determine who is telling the truth and who is lying. Since both parties commented here, in public, then, IMO, the public has a right to know.

Rg
 
Szamboti

i've been in this situation before & it can be difficult. ive always made my end corrected. but i've had situations where i got hurt & nothing was done, that sucks. i recently got a balabushka, that tascarella said wasn't, but seller said schick said was. Marcus [fast & loose] at valley forge took to tascarella & schick, both said a definite NO. seller offers nothing in return. i'm glad you got a gus instead. sounds like a real mess. regards to all don
 
Yep I find it AMAZING

obrien714 said:
I hate to hijack this thread, i have no real place even posting here. I'm gonna anyway.

I find it amazing Dennis has all this time to help with this process, but cant return an email, a private post, or a phone call for the last 4 months regarding a cue of mine he has had since 2003. He has promised me on three occasions the cue would be done within months since 2005. He wont return any communications.

Just some thing i need to get off my chest. Hope all goes well with this cue. Sounds ike its an amazing find.

Anyone want to tell Dennis about my post. Please do so. He has my number.

PAt
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That you bring it here!
 
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it is amazing and i did...

Free forum, ill speak where i need.. if it bothers ya.. it bothers ya.

Just a little pissy latley due to bad business situation im in with DENNIS...

Pat
 
bobco729 said:
Well, Vinny and i had come to agreement that he would reimburse me for the cost of tne shafts $550.00+$50.00 shipping and insurance. He said it could take until the end of October to pay me. Today after several people have admittedly contacted him about what he was going to do with the cue(my cue) if he could get it back. Today he said he would give me a full refund or if i keep the cue as was agreed he will not give me anything to compensate for the oddball shafts. You figure it out, first he couldn't come up with $600.00 for a month. Now he can come up with $6,200.00+$700.00 for Barry's shafts and authentication of the cue. A buyer now maybe??? Well Vinny, thanks for backing out of our agreement which i have p.m.'s to prove.
More to follow, Bob
p.s. The refund offer was made immediatly after Doug was told by Barry that the cue is a Gus. I wonder who would put up the money for the refund that Vinny offered, Duuuuuuuuhg????
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That is F#&*ing priceless....
 
Someone is telling the truth, someone is not. What's the line?

I have all the pm's between the parties. I haven't had time to read them yet. I will do so shortly and give a fair report.

Rg
 
Your right someone is not telling the truth. I'm not taking a side but one end is in here trying to get resoultion and the other is reading the thread and posting in other threads but not in this one. Silence is not golden in some cases. This is one IMO.
 
NYC cue dude said:
Someone is telling the truth, someone is not. What's the line?

I have all the pm's between the parties. I haven't had time to read them yet. I will do so shortly and give a fair report.

Rg
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This thread is truly awful. Its ridiculous. I have no clear understanding of what happened here despite having read every post. And no one else does for that matter either. You hear two different sides of the story. But none of you know what the truth is. Yet so many are eager to throw in their two cents and say Vinny did this and it was wrong. Bob did this and it was right. All I know is there are more assinine posts here in this one thread than there are in every other thread on this site combined!!!

First, to NYC Cue Dude... having all the PMs is a little ridiculous. Bobco had an agenda and it was to cause a train wreck that no one could look away from. He accomplished this by dragging two other people through the mud. Was he lying? I have no idea. I could care less. But I can say this... his actions (starting this thread, hijacking the Blue Grass thread, the manner in which he spoke to people here, and the fact that he sent all of the PRIVATE messages between himself and another poster directly to you) speak VOLUMES about his character. And by the way, altering the contents of PMs is alarmingly easy. Take whatever you read with a grain of salt.



I know Chenz. Not all too well on a personal level. Just in a buyer/seller capacity. I've dealt with him several times before. He's not a big time cue dealer. He's just a guy that loves cues and occasionally moves a few. He has NEVER done me wrong. Our dealings were always pleasant. Even when a friend of his tried to screw me over, he intervened and set the record straight. I'm not saying he's right here because I don't know the details. There are two sides to every story as all of us can see here. But one person has never proven himself to be anything but trustworthy. The other acted in a foolish and classless way, even beating a dead horse after the matter had resolved itself in his favor.

The funniest thing about this was how bobco said he took this to the forums at the suggestion of several reputable cue dealers.

A) Since when do cuedealers represent the moral majority of this site OR the cue dealing world?
B) There are quite a few 'reputable' cue dealers on this site that MANY people could offer some contradictory opinions about. You'd be surprised what some of these guys have done in the past.

Bobco, this should have been handled in a different manner. The fact that it wasn't speaks volumes about you and your character. And beating the dead horse just makes you look worse. Your comments to the pavlos when he spoke some kind words in support of his friend were something I would expect out of a 5th grader.

Again, I have NO idea what happened here as the two sides of the story are very different. But I do know that one person handled himself poorly and about 20 other posters jumped in to kiss his a**, Barry's a**, and just about any other a** they could find. Bottom line... this should have all been handled offline.
 
The bottom line is he was offered a full refund, and has chosen to keep the cue. Case closed, unless you want to beat a dead horse.
 
dave sutton said:
sorry tommy but i have to disagree. if someone intentionally misleads a buyer. simply offering a refund isnt a wash JMO.
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While this may be true, no one here has any proof of what Vinny's intentions were. So comments like this have no bearing.
 
mia said:
While this may be true, no one here has any proof of what Vinny's intentions were. So comments like this have no bearing.
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wasnt it you that just posted you have no clue whats going on even after reading every thread:wink::wink::wink:
 
dave sutton said:
wasnt it you that just posted you have no clue whats going on even after reading every thread:wink::wink::wink:
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Yep. That was me. And that's still the case.

I was just hoping that some of you might have enough common sense to realize that unless your name is Bobco or Chenz, OR you were privvy to all of this as it transpired, you have just about as much knowledge as to what the real facts are as the rest of us.

So jumping in and saying that Chenz's intent was to mislead the buyer is ridiculous and foolish.
 
All I can say is, props to Barry for getting that kind of coin for shafts.
Cheese and Rice, I am in the wrong business.
 
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