Best 14:1 Player Ever-John Schmidt or Willie Mosconi?

Here is a suggestion.

Lets get a 4x8 with the bucket pockets with no pocket shelf and let John Schmidt have a swing on equal equipment. I think he would have some outrageous runs right out of the gate.
 
Thanks!

john schmidt said:
here goes. i look at this forum like a family .

everyone on here likes pool like me so i consider us all to be friends that way and have something in common.

it sickens me that i can control my emotions enough to win major tourneys or run 400 but cannot take the heat when someone disrespects me and my peers.

thing is when other top players and i disagree we settle it by playing for 5000. .

problem is when i get in a disagreement by people i cant see on the net or play it ends up being an insult fest . i got carried away trying to verbally one up people.

some of what i said was in jest and some was to just to iratate.

as anybody that knows me will attest im a competitor and im high strung and
kind of emotional when i start playing etc.its the same when i argue.

im not justifing my actions i think i went overboard defending myself and im truly sorry to all the guys i disrespected back.i was acting like a jerk especially about mosconi ,truth be told i do look up to him bigtime.

im mean i havent event met many of you so im just talking into a computer screen.

you guys all know who i am and when you tell me how inferior me and my peers are its very insulting even if its true.

i understand im a good target for insults as it goes with being a known player etc etc.

i guess what im trying to say is you guys are completely right its an honer to be put in the same sentence as mosconi , and maybe someday this thread will comeout different.



,im a people person and when you guys think im classless that stings more than saying im not that good at pool. i havent slept good for 2 nights thinking about this thread and im ashamed how i reacted and i hope you guys as a group forgive me.


i dont want to go on my dirtbike trip without apologizing first as i think it could affect my concentration and crashing on that cactus might be more likely.



truth is im human i get nervous in matches ,theres players im scared of ,i worry about if im can make a living at pool etc.
its almost a defense mechanism some of us players have when we get told we cant win because pool is the most dog eat dog game ever.

i dont expect alot of you to ever speak good of me again and probably dont deserve it and im not saying all this because i want a new bunch of comments saying im a good guy for apologizing.
i know alot on here are always gonna say i suck and hate me etc but thousands on here are smart nice people and i really enjoy talking to you guys.
im hoping this thread just goes away and from now on im going to make a serious effort to not get insulted when people say things to bring me down.

im human just like everybody else on here and if you guys can bear with me and my crazy self ill appreciate it.

seriosly ive got a good life and career and if the worst thing people say about me is i cant play like mosconi i guess things arent so bad.


again im sorry everbody. im going to be off here for awhile as i think its not productive for me .
i should be practicing more instead of getting in arguments on the web.

after i get back from dirt biking in cali with my dad ill try to chime in and not make a ass out of my self lol.

bye for now john schmidt
mr jack ass 400


p.s. it was hard exposing my feelings and apologizing to everbody but i had too. playing the villian just isnt for me even if it is more exciting.
i feel better now getting all that off my chest.

you guys are like group therapy for me i think you should bill me .lol
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John Schmidt,
Thanks for making that post, it shows that you are human, have feelings, and do really care what your fans and others think of you and you of them!

Your a Classy Guy!

Your one of The Great One's! and You Know It!.....thats all that counts!


David Harcrow
 
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john schmidt said:
here goes. i look at this forum like a family .

everyone on here likes pool like me so i consider us all to be friends that way and have something in common.

it sickens me that i can control my emotions enough to win major tourneys or run 400 but cannot take the heat when someone disrespects me and my peers.

thing is when other top players and i disagree we settle it by playing for 5000. .

problem is when i get in a disagreement by people i cant see on the net or play it ends up being an insult fest . i got carried away trying to verbally one up people.

some of what i said was in jest and some was to just to iratate.

as anybody that knows me will attest im a competitor and im high strung and
kind of emotional when i start playing etc.its the same when i argue.

im not justifing my actions i think i went overboard defending myself and im truly sorry to all the guys i disrespected back.i was acting like a jerk especially about mosconi ,truth be told i do look up to him bigtime.

im mean i havent event met many of you so im just talking into a computer screen.

you guys all know who i am and when you tell me how inferior me and my peers are its very insulting even if its true.

i understand im a good target for insults as it goes with being a known player etc etc.

i guess what im trying to say is you guys are completely right its an honer to be put in the same sentence as mosconi , and maybe someday this thread will comeout different.



,im a people person and when you guys think im classless that stings more than saying im not that good at pool. i havent slept good for 2 nights thinking about this thread and im ashamed how i reacted and i hope you guys as a group forgive me.


i dont want to go on my dirtbike trip without apologizing first as i think it could affect my concentration and crashing on that cactus might be more likely.



truth is im human i get nervous in matches ,theres players im scared of ,i worry about if im can make a living at pool etc.
its almost a defense mechanism some of us players have when we get told we cant win because pool is the most dog eat dog game ever.

i dont expect alot of you to ever speak good of me again and probably dont deserve it and im not saying all this because i want a new bunch of comments saying im a good guy for apologizing.
i know alot on here are always gonna say i suck and hate me etc but thousands on here are smart nice people and i really enjoy talking to you guys.
im hoping this thread just goes away and from now on im going to make a serious effort to not get insulted when people say things to bring me down.

im human just like everybody else on here and if you guys can bear with me and my crazy self ill appreciate it.

seriosly ive got a good life and career and if the worst thing people say about me is i cant play like mosconi i guess things arent so bad.


again im sorry everbody. im going to be off here for awhile as i think its not productive for me .
i should be practicing more instead of getting in arguments on the web.

after i get back from dirt biking in cali with my dad ill try to chime in and not make a ass out of my self lol.

bye for now john schmidt
mr jack ass 400


p.s. it was hard exposing my feelings and apologizing to everbody but i had too. playing the villian just isnt for me even if it is more exciting.
i feel better now getting all that off my chest.

you guys are like group therapy for me i think you should bill me .lol
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You had me at "here" :D:D:D I am glad you are back. Have fun in Cali.

BVal
 
[QUOTE= Look, I hear of people say that Efren Reyes made the best shot ever, but imho, Mosconi did when, needing ONE ball to win a world championship against Andrew Ponzi, being corner hooked, went six rails to kick in the case ball...for the World Championship.

I am curious to know how one can possibly can send the cue ball six rails from a corner hook? Please describe.
 
john schmidt said:
here goes. i look at this forum like a family .

everyone on here likes pool like me so i consider us all to be friends that way and have something in common.

it sickens me that i can control my emotions enough to win major tourneys or run 400 but cannot take the heat when someone disrespects me and my peers ....
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An admirable post, John, and I agree with those who suggest no apology was necessary.

You are rightfully proud of how majestically you play 14.1. And, yes, your skills are light years ahead of amateurs like me with a personal high run in the nineties, and for whom fifty always was and always will be a milestone.

Still, whether it's fair or not, in every sport, one's legacy is far more dependent on the perception of the most ardent fans than the perceptions of those with similar achievements. Accept the fact that ardent fans like myself who've been around the game for several decades and have attended hundred of tournaments will have strong opinions about which of the players they watched were best.

You're absolutely right when you suggest that a fan may be less qualified than a top professional to make such an assessment, but accept the fact that the serious fan gets pleasure out of making such comparisons and in trying to place the efforts of today's pros in the broader context of pool history.

AZB is a place where me and others who share my passion for pool can compare notes and share views about the pool players we've watched over the years. It's a place where you are very highly regarded, and rightly so.

Wishing you continued success over the glorious green felt.

Regards, Stu
 
John,

For those of us that know John Schmidt (the person, not the player, not the screen name) we knew how to take that message and several of us had a good laugh about it.

In this day and and age, via this forum, we have access to communicate with the following:
John Schmidt - 2006 US Open Champion - 2009 DCC 1-Pocket Champion
Danny Harriman - 2009 DCC Straight Pool Champion, Bank Pool Champion
Grady Mathews - a legend, multi-time World Champion, and one of the best ever IMO
Ray Martin - Multi-time World Champion, BCA HOF member, author of the greatest book ever written about our game (99 Critical Shots w/ Rosser Reeeves)
Robin Dodson - 2 time World 9 Ball Champion, BCA HOF member
Darren Appleton - 2008 World 10 Ball Champion
Darryl Peach - 2007 World 9 Ball Champion

Great players such as Dick McMorran, Leil (JR) Gay, Pat Howie, Donnie Mills, Chris Bartrum, Tony Crosby, Monica Webb, Shannon Daulton, Sarah Rousey, Melissa Herndon, Melissa Morris, Dan Barouty, Steve Lipsky, Nick Vandenberg, Neil Fujiwara, Jimmy Mendoza, Oscar Dominguez, Markus Juva, Karl Boyes, Charlie Bryant, Shawn Putnum, The Beard, Keith McCready... if I left somebody out - it wasn't on purpose - these just off the top of my head - but we have access to these great players on a daily basis - some participate more than others - but they are here.

25 years ago, if you wanted to ask a question to Buddy Hall or Keith McCready, it wasn't that easy. From where I was, I had buy a plane ticket. These days, you just come on Azbilliards and send a PM or start a thread and you can talk to a world champion or HOF member.

I think that at times we forget how lucky we are.

I appreciate your posts, John. You represent the game in a positive way - genuinely. Those of us that know you and support you understand your frustration at times. It is that piss and vinegar that drives you to win. I admire you for the way you conduct yourself in life more than I admire anything you could ever do at the table. That is mainly because I know the hurdles you have had to overcome while enroute to your success. You are more of a champion in life than you are a champion at pool. In the end, that's all that matters - and if someone doesn't want to take the time to get to know you before they judge you - screw 'em!
 
john schmidt said:
here goes. i look at this forum like a family .

everyone on here likes pool like me so i consider us all to be friends that way and have something in common.

it sickens me that i can control my emotions enough to win major tourneys or run 400 but cannot take the heat when someone disrespects me and my peers.

thing is when other top players and i disagree we settle it by playing for 5000. .

problem is when i get in a disagreement by people i cant see on the net or play it ends up being an insult fest . i got carried away trying to verbally one up people.

some of what i said was in jest and some was to just to iratate.

as anybody that knows me will attest im a competitor and im high strung and
kind of emotional when i start playing etc.its the same when i argue.

im not justifing my actions i think i went overboard defending myself and im truly sorry to all the guys i disrespected back.i was acting like a jerk especially about mosconi ,truth be told i do look up to him bigtime.

im mean i havent event met many of you so im just talking into a computer screen.

you guys all know who i am and when you tell me how inferior me and my peers are its very insulting even if its true.

i understand im a good target for insults as it goes with being a known player etc etc.

i guess what im trying to say is you guys are completely right its an honer to be put in the same sentence as mosconi , and maybe someday this thread will comeout different.



,im a people person and when you guys think im classless that stings more than saying im not that good at pool. i havent slept good for 2 nights thinking about this thread and im ashamed how i reacted and i hope you guys as a group forgive me.


i dont want to go on my dirtbike trip without apologizing first as i think it could affect my concentration and crashing on that cactus might be more likely.



truth is im human i get nervous in matches ,theres players im scared of ,i worry about if im can make a living at pool etc.
its almost a defense mechanism some of us players have when we get told we cant win because pool is the most dog eat dog game ever.

i dont expect alot of you to ever speak good of me again and probably dont deserve it and im not saying all this because i want a new bunch of comments saying im a good guy for apologizing.
i know alot on here are always gonna say i suck and hate me etc but thousands on here are smart nice people and i really enjoy talking to you guys.
im hoping this thread just goes away and from now on im going to make a serious effort to not get insulted when people say things to bring me down.

im human just like everybody else on here and if you guys can bear with me and my crazy self ill appreciate it.

seriosly ive got a good life and career and if the worst thing people say about me is i cant play like mosconi i guess things arent so bad.


again im sorry everbody. im going to be off here for awhile as i think its not productive for me .
i should be practicing more instead of getting in arguments on the web.

after i get back from dirt biking in cali with my dad ill try to chime in and not make a ass out of my self lol.

bye for now john schmidt
mr jack ass 400


p.s. it was hard exposing my feelings and apologizing to everbody but i had too. playing the villian just isnt for me even if it is more exciting.
i feel better now getting all that off my chest.

you guys are like group therapy for me i think you should bill me .lol
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John,
I think people misread some things you say and vice=versa. You may not know who I am, but we met at Mr Cues 2 and talked a little about straight pool. I told you I had only managed to break into the 50's a couple of times and you complimented me and said I was a good player if I could get to 50 in straight pool. I know you could have said you had run 8 times that many and belittled my meager record. But you did not do it. You complimented me on achieving something a little above average. My hat is off to you for running 400, but my hat is off to you even more for the compliment you gave me for running 50. I wish you would get more compliments for running 400, instead of insults for not running 527.
 
Blackjack said:
John,

For those of us that know John Schmidt (the person, not the player, not the screen name) we knew how to take that message and several of us had a good laugh about it.

In this day and and age, via this forum, we have access to communicate with the following:
John Schmidt - 2006 US Open Champion - 2009 DCC 1-Pocket Champion
Danny Harriman - 2009 DCC Straight Pool Champion, Bank Pool Champion
Grady Mathews - a legend, multi-time World Champion, and one of the best ever IMO
Ray Martin - Multi-time World Champion, BCA HOF member, author of the greatest book ever written about our game (99 Critical Shots w/ Rosser Reeeves)
Robin Dodson - 2 time World 9 Ball Champion, BCA HOF member
Darren Appleton - 2008 World 10 Ball Champion
Darryl Peach - 2007 World 9 Ball Champion

Great players such as Dick McMorran, Leil (JR) Gay, Pat Howie, Donnie Mills, Chris Bartrum, Tony Crosby, Monica Webb, Shannon Daulton, Sarah Rousey, Melissa Herndon, Melissa Morris, Dan Barouty, Steve Lipsky, Nick Vandenberg, Neil Fujiwara, Jimmy Mendoza, Oscar Dominguez, Markus Juva, Karl Boyes, Charlie Bryant, Shawn Putnum, The Beard, Keith McCready... if I left somebody out - it wasn't on purpose - these just off the top of my head - but we have access to these great players on a daily basis - some participate more than others - but they are here.

25 years ago, if you wanted to ask a question to Buddy Hall or Keith McCready, it wasn't that easy. From where I was, I had buy a plane ticket. These days, you just come on Azbilliards and send a PM or start a thread and you can talk to a world champion or HOF member.

I think that at times we forget how lucky we are.

I appreciate your posts, John. You represent the game in a positive way - genuinely. Those of us that know you and support you understand your frustration at times. It is that piss and vinegar that drives you to win. I admire you for the way you conduct yourself in life more than I admire anything you could ever do at the table. That is mainly because I know the hurdles you have had to overcome while enroute to your success. You are more of a champion in life than you are a champion at pool. In the end, that's all that matters - and if someone doesn't want to take the time to get to know you before they judge you - screw 'em!
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Excellent post, Blackjack. We really are very fortunate....

Btw, you left out "No saint" Billy Incardona.:eek:
 
Blackjack,

Thanks for remembering to add Pat (PoolShark52) Howey. Too few posters here ever saw Pat play. He was a contemporary of Mike Sigel here in Rochester. He chose a working life and family over being a pool Pro. Captain Hook once said Pat played the best 14.1 patterns of anyone he ever saw. That alone counts for something in my mind!

Lyn
 
Chris,

Continuing to bring up the "insult" issue only prolongs the negative side of this thread.

Lyn
 
cardiac kid said:
Blackjack,

Thanks for remembering to add Pat (PoolShark52) Howey. Too few posters here ever saw Pat play. He was a contemporary of Mike Sigel here in Rochester. He chose a working life and family over being a pool Pro. Captain Hook once said Pat played the best 14.1 patterns of anyone he ever saw. That alone counts for something in my mind!

Lyn
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Lyn

Pat Howey is a hell of a player - and one of the nicest people I have ever met on this forum. He's a fighter - any word on how he is doing?
 
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John,

Great post, that I can tell is from the heart. It is the kind of courage and heart in this post that tells me that if you stay with this game, you will be one of the Legends, I have no doubt.

Send me a PM when you get back if you will.
 
john schmidt said:
here goes. i look at this forum like a family .

everyone on here likes pool like me so i consider us all to be friends that way and have something in common.

it sickens me that i can control my emotions enough to win major tourneys or run 400 but cannot take the heat when someone disrespects me and my peers.

thing is when other top players and i disagree we settle it by playing for 5000. .

problem is when i get in a disagreement by people i cant see on the net or play it ends up being an insult fest . i got carried away trying to verbally one up people.

some of what i said was in jest and some was to just to iratate.

as anybody that knows me will attest im a competitor and im high strung and
kind of emotional when i start playing etc.its the same when i argue.

im not justifing my actions i think i went overboard defending myself and im truly sorry to all the guys i disrespected back.i was acting like a jerk especially about mosconi ,truth be told i do look up to him bigtime.

im mean i havent event met many of you so im just talking into a computer screen.

you guys all know who i am and when you tell me how inferior me and my peers are its very insulting even if its true.

i understand im a good target for insults as it goes with being a known player etc etc.

i guess what im trying to say is you guys are completely right its an honer to be put in the same sentence as mosconi , and maybe someday this thread will comeout different.



,im a people person and when you guys think im classless that stings more than saying im not that good at pool. i havent slept good for 2 nights thinking about this thread and im ashamed how i reacted and i hope you guys as a group forgive me.


i dont want to go on my dirtbike trip without apologizing first as i think it could affect my concentration and crashing on that cactus might be more likely.



truth is im human i get nervous in matches ,theres players im scared of ,i worry about if im can make a living at pool etc.
its almost a defense mechanism some of us players have when we get told we cant win because pool is the most dog eat dog game ever.

i dont expect alot of you to ever speak good of me again and probably dont deserve it and im not saying all this because i want a new bunch of comments saying im a good guy for apologizing.
i know alot on here are always gonna say i suck and hate me etc but thousands on here are smart nice people and i really enjoy talking to you guys.
im hoping this thread just goes away and from now on im going to make a serious effort to not get insulted when people say things to bring me down.

im human just like everybody else on here and if you guys can bear with me and my crazy self ill appreciate it.

seriosly ive got a good life and career and if the worst thing people say about me is i cant play like mosconi i guess things arent so bad.


again im sorry everbody. im going to be off here for awhile as i think its not productive for me .
i should be practicing more instead of getting in arguments on the web.

after i get back from dirt biking in cali with my dad ill try to chime in and not make a ass out of my self lol.

bye for now john schmidt
mr jack ass 400


p.s. it was hard exposing my feelings and apologizing to everbody but i had too. playing the villian just isnt for me even if it is more exciting.
i feel better now getting all that off my chest.

you guys are like group therapy for me i think you should bill me .lol
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Even I can give credit where credit is due:thumbup:
That was a CLASSY post, thanks
 
john schmidt said:
here goes. i look at this forum like a family .

everyone on here likes pool like me so i consider us all to be friends that way and have something in common.

it sickens me that i can control my emotions enough to win major tourneys or run 400 but cannot take the heat when someone disrespects me and my peers.

thing is when other top players and i disagree we settle it by playing for 5000. .

problem is when i get in a disagreement by people i cant see on the net or play it ends up being an insult fest . i got carried away trying to verbally one up people.

some of what i said was in jest and some was to just to iratate.

as anybody that knows me will attest im a competitor and im high strung and
kind of emotional when i start playing etc.its the same when i argue.

im not justifing my actions i think i went overboard defending myself and im truly sorry to all the guys i disrespected back.i was acting like a jerk especially about mosconi ,truth be told i do look up to him bigtime.

im mean i havent event met many of you so im just talking into a computer screen.

you guys all know who i am and when you tell me how inferior me and my peers are its very insulting even if its true.

i understand im a good target for insults as it goes with being a known player etc etc.

i guess what im trying to say is you guys are completely right its an honer to be put in the same sentence as mosconi , and maybe someday this thread will comeout different.



,im a people person and when you guys think im classless that stings more than saying im not that good at pool. i havent slept good for 2 nights thinking about this thread and im ashamed how i reacted and i hope you guys as a group forgive me.


i dont want to go on my dirtbike trip without apologizing first as i think it could affect my concentration and crashing on that cactus might be more likely.



truth is im human i get nervous in matches ,theres players im scared of ,i worry about if im can make a living at pool etc.
its almost a defense mechanism some of us players have when we get told we cant win because pool is the most dog eat dog game ever.

i dont expect alot of you to ever speak good of me again and probably dont deserve it and im not saying all this because i want a new bunch of comments saying im a good guy for apologizing.
i know alot on here are always gonna say i suck and hate me etc but thousands on here are smart nice people and i really enjoy talking to you guys.
im hoping this thread just goes away and from now on im going to make a serious effort to not get insulted when people say things to bring me down.

im human just like everybody else on here and if you guys can bear with me and my crazy self ill appreciate it.

seriosly ive got a good life and career and if the worst thing people say about me is i cant play like mosconi i guess things arent so bad.


again im sorry everbody. im going to be off here for awhile as i think its not productive for me .
i should be practicing more instead of getting in arguments on the web.

after i get back from dirt biking in cali with my dad ill try to chime in and not make a ass out of my self lol.

bye for now john schmidt
mr jack ass 400


p.s. it was hard exposing my feelings and apologizing to everbody but i had too. playing the villian just isnt for me even if it is more exciting.
i feel better now getting all that off my chest.

you guys are like group therapy for me i think you should bill me .lol
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John:

That post showed some class, next time just think before you respond to a thread like this, give yourself a day to cool off first. Somebody once said something to the effect of: " one should never pick up a pen in anger." Unfortunately, most of us (myself included for sure) have done it at one time or another and written something that we regret and can't easily take back. Computer forums like this and E-mails make it really easy to respond while upset, and unfortunately the written word is more permanent than the spoken word.

Nobody said that you were "inferior" to Mosconi; it was more that he was a highly experienced player with a great record and maybe a more hardened, driven competitor but you will get there. You would give Mosconi (and anyone else dead or living) all he could handle if you got an open shot and got in gear and that's really saying something. You can shoot your way out of anything and even Mosconi would recognize that and respect your game. There are very few people who have ever played this game who can compete at the level that you can so start thinking like Mosconi did because you have the talent to back it up. When you get to that table repeat over and over in your head; "This player can not beat me and I will not let him win. I will concentrate harder than him, try harder than him and he can not win if I am playing my best." Remember, you're John Schmidt and when you're firing on all cylinders who the hell is going to get by you? What may have differentiated Mosconi from many others is simply the fact that he always gave 100% and had an extreme level of focus while in competition. Like many great competitors he was able to ratchet his game up when under pressure and, like an animal, became most dangerous when threatened or cornered. There was obviously a lot of fight in the guy.


Welcome back John, always take the high road because your character is as important as your game. You're one of the good guys and God knows this sport needs more guys like you if it's ever going to go mainstream. The game needs a marketable, respectable hero to find it's footing, try to be that guy.
 
john schmidt said:
you guys are like group therapy for me i think you should bill me .lol
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Oh I don't know about that.

John, that was probably one of the most honest and enlightening posts a pro in any sport could write.

The best pool I ever saw you play was in the Cue Club that day way back when and you know why? Because it was $100 sets in a relaxed environment and you were not pressured up and your game just flowed. THAT John Schmidt is a monster, he is not "supposed" to lose to anyone and rest assured if (make it WHEN) that Schmidt becomes the one that shows up at major events you very well might be right about this thread being alot more of a debate in 20 years from now. I know I have never seen SVB, Reyes, or Mosconi for that matter shoot "better" then you did that day, there is not really any speed above that which you were playing.

I am not even close to as talented as you are John but I go through the same crap that you mentioned in that post. I can run a 4 or 5 pack of 8-ball in a relaxed pressure free environment, be running out 60% of the racks off the break, go to Vegas, jump on a Diamond, and chop up like a chump. Now on the B-side after playing like a complete dog you wonder what the heck happend and where the game you had went to, you pressure up even more trying to now stay in the event and get it going and if you don't get a couple matches where you get some shots and build some confidence that game you are "supposed" to play never shows up at all for you and it is "better luck next year" yet again.

We have a similar mindset I am guessing from your post, and I probably sensed that from long ago watching you play in all the various environments and some of the posts on these forums so you want to talk about paying for therapy, I should probably be paying you because all my posting on this thread was like argueing with a reflection of myself. Pool becomes VERY hard when your pride and self confidence depends on your winning or losing a match.

There are two very different approaches the top, most successful players in history seem to have. You have your people like Mosconi and Sigel, they are the intense focused monsters that fed off the pressure and let every little mistake piss them off and create even more focus for the next shot. They did not play scared pool, they played flat out pissed off pool and attacked the table and balls with an intense focus.

Then you have your Reyes types of player, the calm and relaxed player who plays the game with a almost disinterested type of focus. Misses slide of his shoulders like water and they are forgotten and the relaxed pressense is maintained. It is a very business like ho hum type of methodical tempo they play the game with.

With my personality type the best I ever played with by far with the former. I played my best pool with the intense focus and the aggresive attitude towards the game. I tried the latter, I switched to it and I can honestly say for someone like me it does not work in the slightest. I can not turn off the pressure and "just play" the pressure is still there and after a miss or two or some bad shape and now a tough shot I need to make that relaxed me cannot make that shot, I need the intense me to bear down and make it. I cannot turn off the nerves, so I need to convert what would be fear and pressure to that intense focus and will to dominate the game itself. Tyler Edey on the other hand, very much the relaxed type of playing style, and it works well for him and I can blame him(not really) for my attempting to mimick his relaxed style at the table and decimating my game.

John, if ya don't mind that last post of yours kind of makes me want you to win still so I will probably be routing for ya in most of your matches (unless you are playing a Western Canadian!). Maybe if I see ya in Vegas during the BCA I will lose that $100 to ya finally, I think this thread might have actually truly BEEN some real shorts psychology for me and help me get back my old pressure playing self...
 
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