i really dig gabe's game too. i still watch the videos of him winning the us open. you can tell he's feeling the pressure but he keeps on pocketing balls
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i really dig gabe's game too. i still watch the videos of him winning the us open. you can tell he's feeling the pressure but he keeps on pocketing balls
All I hear from you guys and Jay about Parica is that he beat everybody in sight. But you know what, I have never seen a list of the people he beat for the cash.
IMHO, and I know Cole was not playing in the 80s, Cole would have kicked Jose's butt from Va to Cali. Jose Parica breaks like a girl and could never run consecutive racks like Cole Dickson could. Same can be said about Efren in 9 ball. A hot Johnnie Archer could mop the floor with both of them. I am not an Earl fan anyway. I am sick about hearing about how good Jose Parica was at gambling, unless someone can give me an all out impressive list of victoms.
And btw, a pro who has been frequenting my pool hall in Frederick recently, said that the Rifelman Buddy Hall was not one of the best 9 ball players of all time. This pro is younger than Cole, but he said that he asked Cole for the 8 ball and Cole said: "you got it SUCKA, $300 a game". I am not going to mention names here, but this young hustler chose to not take Cole on, even thow he had thousands in cash on him.
In short, I am surprised that no one has mentioned Cole Dickson. Even Keith McCready said that Cole was one of the most difficult people to play for cash.
Oh please do name drop. I will my brother was down from Idaho playing in the rockville orange ball wed night turney he is playing in front of Danny Green, danny says man I realy like the way that kid plays 9ball, I turned and said danny thats my younger brother I taught him years ago how to play but he has been working with cole dixon, danny's eys lit up and says cole dixon are u kidding me , he is one of the best money players there ever was, Kieth McCready standing close buy echoes the same, so not ever seeing cole play , I do know for those to guys to put him in such a hi regard tells me he must have been pretty dam good,
But getting to buddy hall and the un named pro
How can he say a 2time us open winner and world 9 ball and international 9 ball champion to go along with many more tittles, is not one of the best
just how many players have won 2 us and 2 world titles,
Buddy "The Rifleman" Hall at the 2003 US OpenCecil P. "Buddy" Hall (born May 29, 1945 in Metropolis, Illinois) has been an American professional pool player for three decades.[1] The International Pool Tour heralds Hall as a "living pool legend."[2] He is nicknamed "The Rifleman" for his accuracy. [2]
Hall has been credited for creating the "clock system" which is a technique for where to hit the cue-ball, using the clock as a mechanism for where to aim.[3]
Hall began playing at 14 years of age in a soda shop in his home town. When local pool rooms would not let him enter because of his age, he used subterfuge to obtain a new birth certificate from a local judge which stated he was of legal age. He cut his teeth at Herbie Lynn's pool room and was soon dominating the regulars. It was not long before he hit the road to try his hand at a wider playing field. He first gained some prominence at the Johnson City tournaments.[4]
I went there to watch all the greats of the day play. Wimpy, Jersey Red, Eddie Taylor, Cornbread Red, Harold Worst, Jimmy Moore, Fats and U.J. were playing one another in both the tournament and in backroom ring games. I entered and was very pleased when I beat Wimpy and Jersey Red and won my entry fee back.[4]
In the following years, Johnson City lost out as the hub of top tier tournament play to Dayton, Ohio. There, organizer Joe Burns instituted a similar all-around tournaments to the format that had been used in Johnosn City. Hall played in the Dayton Tournaments for many years. He took first place there in 1974 winning $4,000. In 1982 Buddy won the Caesar's Tahoe Nine-ball Championship by edging out Allen Hopkins in the final with a score of 11-6, winning $33,500 for his efforts; an unprecedented purse at the time. ESPN's announcement of Halls' win was the first ever mention of a billiard player on that cable television network.[4]
[edit] Career
Buddy Hall was the thirty-ninth inductee in the Billiards Congress of America's Hall of Fame, in the year 2000.[5] He was named Player of the Year by the pool media, to include The National Billiard News and Pool and Billiards Magazine, in 1982, 1991, and 1998. Hall currently is a member of the International Pool Tour[6] and still competes on various regional tours and senior events throughout the United States.
[edit] Titles
1998 Camel Shooters Nine-ball Open
1998 U.S. Open Nine-ball Championship
1995 PBC Commonwealth Shootout
1992 MPBA Bicycle Club Invitational
1992 International Challenge of Champions
1992 MPBA Rakm Up Classic
1991 International Nine-ball Classic
1991 US Open Nine-ball Championship
1991 MPBA International Classic
1987 Glass City Open
1987 Colorado Open
1987 Carolina's Cup
1987 Lexington Open
1986 Fall Classic
1986 Cue Club Open
1986 Super Bowl Open
1986 Memorial Day Open
1985 Gibbs Nine-Ball Shootout
1985 Charlotte Open
1985 East Coast Open
1985 Cowboy Casino Nine-ball Championship
1984 World Nine-Ball Open
1984 Caesars Tahoe Classic
1984 Dayton Open
1983 Dayton Open 9-ball Championship
1983 Caesar's Tahoe Nine-ball Championship
1982 Caesar's Tahoe Nine-ball Championship
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Whitewolf, you're showing your ignorance. They don't publish lists of "money games" for good reason. Just because you weren't there doesn't mean Jose didn't beat a lot of people for the money! And Buddy Hall?? You believe that he was not one of the top nine-ball players???? You're really out of the loop!
I'm not taking anything away from Cole Dickson, but he never was a TOP player. He gambled pretty well and intimidated some of his opponents, some from great play and other by using a tush hog technique. He was a very hard guy to play, because if you got him down, he'd turn into a real asshole quick. He was certainly capable of beating anyone on good day, most all pros are, but he wasn't in a class with Jose, Efren, Buddy, or Earl! He just wasn't, he was more of a Louie Roberts speed player without the good personality! Sorry, but that's just the way it was.
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Pool players go through streaks. Some can hold their winning ways longer than others. Earl Strickland, who's still hitting 'em strong even today, is one of those players who had a long winning streak. :smile:
Best money player? There's a lot of good money players, some of which can't even hit 'em that strong. They just know how to match up. Therein likes the secret of a good money player.
It doesn't matter how well you hit 'em. What matters is who leaves town with the cheese!
Best money player? There's a lot of good money players, some of which can't even hit 'em that strong. They just know how to match up. Therein likes the secret of a good money player.
It doesn't matter how well you hit 'em. What matters is who leaves town with the cheese!
Pool players go through streaks. Some can hold their winning ways longer than others. Earl Strickland, who's still hitting 'em strong even today, is one of those players who had a long winning streak. :smile:
Best money player? There's a lot of good money players, some of which can't even hit 'em that strong. They just know how to match up. Therein likes the secret of a good money player.
It doesn't matter how well you hit 'em. What matters is who leaves town with the cheese!
Truer words were never spoken!
That article about Buddy Hall in Wikipedia is interesting and extremely well written. The photo of Buddy, taken at the 2003 U.S. Open 9-Ball Championship, is also pretty cool, if I do say so myself!k:
well that 2003 photo might just have a little sentimental value
Kieth beat buddy 11-10 I would have loved to see kieth win the whole ball of wax but hey it was a hell of a run he had that year, sure wish he would get back out and play
onestroke
Pool players go through streaks. Some can hold their winning ways longer than others. Earl Strickland, who's still hitting 'em strong even today, is one of those players who had a long winning streak. :smile:
Best money player? There's a lot of good money players, some of which can't even hit 'em that strong. They just know how to match up. Therein likes the secret of a good money player.
It doesn't matter how well you hit 'em. What matters is who leaves town with the cheese!
Recently, Dippy comes to mind. After a series of matches with SVB and others, Dippy Dave scored on Busta and the Rail in Vegas.
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True words !!!!
I would make a run as the best money player today If Dippy could be my agent & get me the same spots he's been getting !:thumbup:
I would make a run as the best money player today If Dippy could be my agent & get me the same spots he's been getting !:thumbup:
ya but do u have u own 10k to put own, the only true test of a gambling pool shooter is when he puts his own money up,
a friend of mine asked me one day if I want to play some 50 a rack , knowing him very well I knew he had at least 5 g in his pocket , I look at him and say how about u put up 150 to my 50 , he says what are u crazy I turn back and say well I have 150 to my name I know u have at least 5k in ur pocket, where does ur pressure come from,
Lee Trevino speaking of golf said their is no pressure in a big tournament, pressure is pressing a 5 dollar Nassau when u have no money in ur pocket
onestroke
Pool players go through streaks. Some can hold their winning ways longer than others. Earl Strickland, who's still hitting 'em strong even today, is one of those players who had a long winning streak. :smile:
Best money player? There's a lot of good money players, some of which can't even hit 'em that strong. They just know how to match up. Therein likes the secret of a good money player.
It doesn't matter how well you hit 'em. What matters is who leaves town with the cheese!
And then there was a time at the Hardtimes when Amarillo Slim flew in from Vegas to play Keith.:smile:
ya but do u have u own 10k to put own, the only true test of a gambling pool shooter is when he puts his own money up,
onestroke
Haha....I think I could come up with a few 10k barrels if I could get them games...I've staked 10k sets numerous times...never bet that much on my own stick..but would have to give it a shot & hope I don't crap on myself..lol
Never fancied myself as a bonified pool player but I'd have to give it whirl with some of dem games....Better odds than the stock market right now for sure.
ok on new cloth they all play close i think.
play on older cloth with tight pockets and svb is last on this list.
no disrespect to him he plays great.
but these are the 4 best players in my opp.
i never watched yang play so im not sure.
and if you play an ahead set like 15 ahead or 20 i think that makes alex the fav.
so in a race they are all close svb number 5.
I agree 100%
i would give svb a lil edge.
if hatch played all the pool svb plays
with the great players
i think he would be fav over svb
I've been waiting to see how you'd answer that. I agree. I think Dennis has all the talent in the world but doesn't have the character to put it to good use. If he put the effort into pool that all the Filipino's have, he might be unbeatable, but that's not likely to change.
