i forgot about BOBBY LEGG,he came to baltimore around 20years ago and never left,thats the only guy in the area that could hang with vanover,they had many matchs,back and forth,id bet neither one is up more than one set and they played alot of them!leggs could do so so much with that qball,he was amazing,i think it was billy i that said if he had to pick 1 pool player to play 3rail position he would pick bobby legg to do it !rest in peace bobby, u sure made a lot of friends here in old baltimore. richie