Best up and coming cue makers to invest your money into?

[justinb386]

I am curious about up and coming cue makers (maybe cue makers that are not really known yet, other then locally) that you think would be good investments to order a cue from?

Very sorry if this is not a good or respectful question to ask.

Just mainly curious about new cue makers that you believe to be really great craftsman, and know how to make a great playing cue (maybe who was taught by a great cue maker for many years).

Just a thought that came to mind.

Thanks.

 

[asiasdad]

OK...I'll start:

Josh Treadway
Eddie Cohen

 

[cubswin]

I wouldn't invest in cues, but Joey Bautista makes a great cue.
Ryan from rat cues also makes a great cue, and his work is top notch.

Josh Treadway is another. Jim Vest seems to be posting some interesting cues on ebay as well.

Personal opinion, if you are going to invest in cues go with BB, Scruggs, Tasc's, Tad's, GS, GB, Tonkin, BS, Barenbrugge, Thomas Wayne etc. Of course all of those cues have a high initial cost other than perhaps a Scruggs.

 

[justinb386]

I wouldn't invest in cues, but Joey Bautista makes a great cue.
Ryan from rat cues also makes a great cue, and his work is top notch.

Josh Treadway is another. Jim Vest seems to be posting some interesting cues on ebay as well.

Personal opinion, if you are going to invest in cues go with BB, Scruggs, Tasc's, Tad's, GS, GB, Tonkin, BS, Barenbrugge, Thomas Wayne etc. Of course all of those cues have a high initial cost other than perhaps a Scruggs.

Yeah, that is why I was thinking of up and coming good cue makers. Like maybe a cue that would cost $500 now, and might be worth a $1,000 10 years from now. Like for example I ordered a sneaky from Scruggs back in the late 90s , and I think I paid $200 for it. If I would have held on to that cue and taken good care of it, then it would be worth maybe 4 times its original cost. Same thing for lambros. You used to be able to get a fancy sneaky directly from him for $300, and now that same cue would probably cost a $1,000.

 

[luan.vo]

Eddie cohen for sure. The fact that he was learning and working with both Ariel and Kent give him a huge advantage and lot of cutting edge experience. I am talking ab 7-10 years of building experience.

 

[gregnice37]

Josh Treadway
Leon Sly
Steve Dunkel

 

[63Kcode]

Best to play with a lot of cues and talk to a lot of cue makers. Then invest in cues you want to own. No matter what happens to future values. You will still have cues you are happy with.

Larry

 

[jazznpool]

Cues are generally not a good investment. They are basically toys. Buy what you enjoy playing with.

 

[TX Poolnut]

Respectfully, buying pool cues and investing shouldn't be included in the same thought.

Open a Vanguard account and get into broad market index funds. Your investments will mature long term much more than pool cues.

 

[LuckyStroke]

Best to play with a lot of cues and talk to a lot of cue makers. Then invest in cues you want to own. No matter what happens to future values. You will still have cues you are happy with.

Larry

Something tells me a Vigus cue would still be desirable ten years from now.

Ben

 

[SSach]

Respectfully, buying pool cues and investing shouldn't be included in the same thought.

Open a Vanguard account and get into broad market index funds. Your investments will mature long term much more than pool cues.

Couldn't agree more. I was writing a lengthy reply but not sure it would do any good. I would say that find someone local if possible, find someone who is trustworthy and has a passion (not just looking to make a dollar and spitting out cues), find someone that is making a limited amount of cues and is constantly working on refining their work.

Most guys that I deal with have the above, so whether it turns into a wise investment doesn't really apply. I never bought a cue with money I couldn't afford to lose at a casino (except those cues that started with a "S").

 

[Realizm]

Robert Danilson
Bdcues makes a great cue very underrated.

 

[justinb386]

Best to play with a lot of cues and talk to a lot of cue makers. Then invest in cues you want to own. No matter what happens to future values. You will still have cues you are happy with.

Larry

Yeah, you make a great point. I should have asked to name some new up and coming cue makers that give you the best value for the money that they charge for their cue (like maybe a cue maker that would build you a cue for $400, when he should really be charging much more for the value of the work that he does). I am not sure if you can even get a really great cue for $400 anymore from a really good cue maker. I think most start at $500 minimum these days.

 

[whatevrdoumean]

Ellis Cues made by Shawn Ellis, Peoria ,Il area. He is on Facebook as Ellis Custom Cues. He is on Az also. He is making me a Purple Heart break cue. Check him out. Very reasonable. Michael

 

[BmoreMoney]

Yeah, you make a great point. I should have asked to name some new up and coming cue makers that give you the best value for the money that they charge for their cue (like maybe a cue maker that would build you a cue for $400, when he should really be charging much more for the value of the work that he does). I am not sure if you can even get a really great cue for $400 anymore from a really good cue maker. I think most start at $500 minimum these days.

As discussed in other threads last couple of days here, my vote still goes to Bob Frey for value and playability .

 

[stormshadow1]

Blackcreek, Treadway, Ae


Keith in Colorado

 

[Shooter08]

Nobody, buy what you like. How can you predict will continue to improve or who will burn somebody? I don't own one but I would invest in a Vigus or Sugartree. Outside of those two I cannot guarantee results. Actually I would like to defer to deanoc for his opinion.

 

[gumpys]

Cues are generally not a good investment. They are basically toys. Buy what you enjoy playing with.

Both very well said. All my cues I own I bought to play with and enjoy. If I want to invest plenty of better options for the long haul.

Respectfully, buying pool cues and investing shouldn't be included in the same thought.

Open a Vanguard account and get into broad market index funds. Your investments will mature long term much more than pool cues.

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[lakeman77]

good mutual funds are investments. cues are for fun. almost any new cue is worth 65% of new cost after you have played with it for few months.
your chances of picking the next Szamboti are only slightly better than winning the lottery.
technology changes, tastes change. no predicting.
buy what calls out to you, have fun.

 

[jaetee]

If you want a nicely priced cue that has a very nice ,stiff hit and might go up in value over the years, consider a Woodworth.

Woody always seems to have a good inventory of cues in several pricing categories available, yet they all hit much the same. He pays particular attention to balance point and will change up his pin material based on the wood being used so that his cues have similar feel from cue to cue. He just recently started making full-splice 5-point cues as well. Not sure how many cue makers out there are doing that???

I have a Woodworth in my collection that I picked up last year and it's one of my favorites. A wonderful hitting cue with excellent looks.

After playing with his cue for a while now (and having hit with many others from more famous builders) I find myself wondering why he's not more popular? Then again, if he were more famous I probably would not have been able to afford the cue I got, or it would not have been available.

I bought the cue to use after meeting Woody in person and being impressed by playing with his personal cue a couple of times, I did not buy it as an investment...