Best way to sell a 9' Pro Am Diamond +

[JoeyInCali]

PS, I know everyone has their own tastes, but I've always hated the look of flat sawn oak. The grain pattern is simply too overpowering. I don't know why Diamond made that the main wood, especially in the early days. Hell, Birch would have looked better IMO, and it is usually less per board foot than oak, and similar hardness.

If I ever got a Diamond table, I'd probably pay a premium for them to make it using maple wood, even if I wanted it painted black. I can't stand the open pores on oak, and the huge cathedral grain patterns.

To each his own, as far as beauty goes

Maple would definitely look much better.
Stain it in cherry or black even.

 

[trentfromtoledo]

Yeah, and he is selling it for 4k, and says he paid 8k for it. So where is the 75% to 80% value maintained that the Diamond Reps keep claiming.

Also of note, and the most important part, that is the asking price. Will it sell through? And what will be the final price if it does sell through.

Same question for the OP's table.

Glen has in a roundabout way answered my direct question to him, that he does not deal in sales. That means all the "used" tables he has sold he acted as delivery and setup man on the behalf of Diamond, who made the sale as a dealer directly with a private buyer.

Kind of like when you buy a used Camry from the Toyota dealer, you will pay more than if you buy it from your next door neighbor. You get the full dealer service, for the higher price you pay.

He is also most likely "fudgin" the truth about how much he paid. T, Used w/ light $5500. delivery from factory $400 and install $200.

It is a heck of a deal if you know someone with a Diamond cart to move it!

Trent from Toledo:thumbup:

 

[Boxcar]

:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

As regards sales and this whole Diamond thingy, I think it is within reason to say, "There's a sucker born every day." Immediately followed by, "Never give a sucker an even break."

 

[jimmyco]

PS, I know everyone has their own tastes, but I've always hated the look of flat sawn oak. The grain pattern is simply too overpowering. I don't know why Diamond made that the main wood, especially in the early days. Hell, Birch would have looked better IMO, and it is usually less per board foot than oak, and similar hardness.



If I ever got a Diamond table, I'd probably pay a premium for them to make it using maple wood, even if I wanted it painted black. I can't stand the open pores on oak, and the huge cathedral grain patterns.

To each his own, as far as beauty goes

Oak was very popular in the late '80s, early '90s.

 

[JoeyInCali]

This is probably it.

A new 9' Pro Am is $5900.00 plus delivery or freight), tax, and install will vary from company to company. 9' light is $800(not including wiring, bulbs and install), ball polisher is $500. Not sure about the stool set he has included.

$7200 for what I have listed here. Not including the other $$ I am not listing.
He was likely in it for at least $8500.00.

Blue label Diamonds hold their value very well!!

Just my $0.02.

Trent from Toledo

Thanks for the straight answer Trent.

 

[JoeyInCali]

Oak was very popular in the late '80s, early '90s.

This might be a little shocker, the prettiest table I saw was the Meucci table.
Meucci used to import them from Italy.
I saw it at the BCA in Vegas. Pros were playing on it.
Really pretty table.
It made the oak Diamond then look like Beach Billiards table.

 

[Boxcar]

This might be a little shocker, the prettiest table I saw was the Meucci table.
Meucci used to import them from Italy.
I saw it at the BCA in Vegas. Pros were playing on it.
Really pretty table.
It made the oak Diamond then look like Beach Billiards table.

Lest we forget the Murrey 6400 Pro Series!

 

[JoeyInCali]

Lest we forget the Murrey 6400 Pro Series!

Lord, whoever designed that table should be shot.
Those corner metals go all the way down and if you were not careful in bringing up your cue, it would get a really nice souvenir marks.
A friend had one and had to dump it for a GC. I helped take it down.
The rails were not bolted through the slate. Hence, the ugly sound when you banked.
Color of Money table my eye. It was more like color of crap.

 

[Boxcar]

Lord, whoever designed that table should be shot.
Those corner metals go all the way down and if you were not careful in bringing up your cue, it would get a really nice souvenir marks.
A friend had one and had to dump it for a GC. I helped take it down.
The rails were not bolted through the slate. Hence, the ugly sound when you banked.
Color of Money table my eye. It was more like color of crap.

But, but, but...but Paul Newman?

 

[realkingcobra]

I thought you didn't deal in sales, so don't know the prices :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

I usually deal with smarter than average people, I guess that leaves you out!!

 

[bstroud]

I have a cherry stained maple pro am for sale.
It has never been moved and I am the only one that has ever played on it.
It is in Ruidoso NM.

Bill Stroud

 

[jimmyg]

]Yeah, and he is selling it for 4k, and says he paid 8k for it.[/B] So where is the 75% to 80% value maintained that the Diamond Reps keep claiming.

Also of note, and the most important part, that is the asking price. Will it sell through? And what will be the final price if it does sell through.

Same question for the OP's table.

Glen has in a roundabout way answered my direct question to him, that he does not deal in sales. That means all the "used" tables he has sold he acted as delivery and setup man on the behalf of Diamond, who made the sale as a dealer directly with a private buyer.

Kind of like when you buy a used Camry from the Toyota dealer, you will pay more than if you buy it from your next door neighbor. You get the full dealer service, for the higher price you pay.

He's "asking" $4K....he'll take less.

 

[realkingcobra]

He's "asking" $4K....he'll take less.

You'll never know!

 

[realkingcobra]

What all of you naysayers need to learn about the resale value of the Diamonds is this, they're not stacked up in storage units or warehouses waiting on someone to come along and buy them for $500 as is like the Brunswick Gold Crowns and Gandy tables. No ones rushing out anymore jumping on the GC for sale deals anymore, why is that?? Today, those tables are like buying junk bonds, based on the condition of those tables, you may have to stick a bunch of money into them just to get them playable.

I have a friend of mine that has 112 GC1s and 3s in storage units, but can't buy or find used enough Diamond tables to supply his customers demands for them....tell me something, WHY is that????

 

[iusedtoberich]

What all of you naysayers need to learn about the resale value of the Diamonds is this, they're not stacked up in storage units or warehouses waiting on someone to come along and buy them for $500 as is like the Brunswick Gold Crowns and Gandy tables. No ones rushing out anymore jumping on the GC for sale deals anymore, why is that?? Today, those tables are like buying junk bonds, based on the condition of those tables, you may have to stick a bunch of money into them just to get them playable.

I have a friend of mine that has 112 GC1s and 3s in storage units, but can't buy or find used enough Diamond tables to supply his customers demands for them....tell me something, WHY is that????

It probably means Diamond is leaving lots of money on the table (pun intended) by not expanding production

 

[realkingcobra]

It probably means Diamond is leaving lots of money on the table (pun intended) by not expanding production

Easier said than done, hardest jobs in the world are made easy by those that dont have to do them!!

 

[iusedtoberich]

Easier said than done, hardest jobs in the world are made easy by those that dont have to do them!!

Shhhiiiiit, don't you know I know everything about everything :grin-square::grin-square::grin-square:

 

[realkingcobra]

Shhhiiiiit, don't you know I know everything about everything :grin-square::grin-square::grin-square:

Then how come you dont know that with a shortage of used Diamonds on the market, it creates a higher resale price tag for used Diamonds?

 

[JoeyInCali]

What all of you naysayers need to learn about the resale value of the Diamonds is this, they're not stacked up in storage units or warehouses waiting on someone to come along and buy them for $500 as is like the Brunswick Gold Crowns and Gandy tables. No ones rushing out anymore jumping on the GC for sale deals anymore, why is that?? Today, those tables are like buying junk bonds, based on the condition of those tables, you may have to stick a bunch of money into them just to get them playable.

I have a friend of mine that has 112 GC1s and 3s in storage units, but can't buy or find used enough Diamond tables to supply his customers demands for them....tell me something, WHY is that????

Because there are NOT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of Diamonds out there like GC's.
When GC's were born there were THOUSANDS of pool halls and bowling alleys all over the US. THOUSANDS. It's the same with boxing gyms right after the depression. There were freaking hundreds and hundreds per state.

Just look at all the places here in OC, LA and Riverside that had GC's up the gazoo before they closed.

How many pool halls are there in OC, LA and Riverside now that have Diamond tables ?????

 

[realkingcobra]

Because there are NOT THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of Diamonds out there like GC's.
When GC's were born there were THOUSANDS of pool halls and bowling alleys all over the US. THOUSANDS. It's the same with boxing gyms right after the depression. There were freaking hundreds and hundreds per state.

Just look at all the places here in OC, LA and Riverside that had GC's up the gazoo before they closed.

How many pool halls are there in OC, LA and Riverside now that have Diamond tables ?????

Well then Joey, why aren't all the new opening pool rooms snatching up all those old used GCs at a steal of a price and opening with used GCs instead of buying new Diamonds? There's literally 1000's of used Gold Crowns in storage just waiting to be bought by ANYONE!