Brunswick vs Diamond

Realkingcobra, ever work on any Brunswick Anniversary tables? That's what I have. I have to get it set up in the next couple of months. Probably needs new rails. Any suggestions? Thanks.
 
YouTube Video on Gold Crown V!

For friends who may have missed it,
here is a YouTube video
featuring Rob Sheets of Brunswick Billiards.

Rob Sheets talks about the Gold Crown V
pool table.

Much thanks for looking, everyone!

Link is here, friends!

:)
 
The Anito kid "kids you not"... He's got it straight on the Gold Crown production. The kid knows his stuff...
 
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Have you ever looked at the base frame on a Gold Crown??? The base frame is massive. Plus 1 piece slate is overrated... getting into a room is one thing... leveling is something else. You can really dial in a 3 piece matched set. That's how its been done for years. And it still works.
 
IMOM said:
Have you ever looked at the base frame on a Gold Crown??? The base frame is massive. Plus 1 piece slate is overrated... getting into a room is one thing... leveling is something else. You can really dial in a 3 piece matched set. That's how its been done for years. And it still works.
You sure you're not the same idiot that started the thread by Mec101? This subject has been buried for quit some time, why bring it up now? Just to inject your BS? Get a life buddy, the world don't feel the same as you do, so don't try speaking like you speak for all people:rolleyes: Any time you want to put the level of a 3 piece slate Brunswick 9ft up against the level of a 1 piece slate Diamond ProAm....you just let me know, and get your money together to back up your mouth.

Glen
 
CaptiveBred said:
IMO, a Shimmed Brunswick will play tougher than a pro cut Diamond with the same mouth dimensions... The Brunswick will reject MANY more balls than the Diamond due to the cut of the pocket. The deep shelf may even things out a bit more.

GCs look ALOT better than the Diamond tables... They just do...

You will be happy with any of them but if you want a tough table, investigate pocket generousity between the two. I think you will find that well hit balls will drop on the Diamond where the GC will spit em out. Either a tight table that plays true or a tight table that plays tough... Which one will improve your game more?

I have an A E Schmidt with deep shelves and I would not recommend it. It is frustrating to hit a good shot and watch the pocket reject it because of the shelf. I would rather have tighter pockets without the deep shelfs because at least if you hit it straight it will go in the hole.
 
alstl said:
I have an A E Schmidt with deep shelves and I would not recommend it. It is frustrating to hit a good shot and watch the pocket reject it because of the shelf. I would rather have tighter pockets without the deep shelfs because at least if you hit it straight it will go in the hole.
And that is because of the miter cuts of the corner pockets, AND the 1/8" inch facing material used.

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
Hmmmm...there is some truth to what you're saying...I do believe it's the playing surface that determines the correct size of room a table is going in, when it comes to short spots around the table...not the width of the rails;)

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Glen
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atthecat said:
Realkingcobra, ever work on any Brunswick Anniversary tables? That's what I have. I have to get it set up in the next couple of months. Probably needs new rails. Any suggestions? Thanks.

I can tell you that the anniversary is about as good as anything ever made. The frame is massive, the slate is thick as hell, and after replacing the rails(which I would recommend rail extensions, as the stock pocket is a little big), no unbiased player or mechanic is going to say it is second to anything. These tables are still in great demand, and my local room's is awesome, though it took myself and Mark Gregory a few hours to make it so-Matt
 
GC vs. Diamond

ForumGhost516 said:
Hi everyone i am sure this is probably a matter of personal preference in feel, but as an average player apa level 7 and am going to be starting to play in some joss and predator events in NY, what would be the better home table, a brunswick gold crown or a diamond professional or PRO AM table. I have heard mixed reports on both but after watching a lot of the accu stats dvds i have noticed the majority is played on diamonds. Any help would be huge.
My avatar says it all. Or at least my end result. I always played on GC's and wanted to get 1. Problem was that when ordering I found out I could not get smaller pockets. I didn't want the buckets like the pool halls here and if they are shimmed, well, some shims are better than others I guess. I play 1 pocket and sometimes shims get in the way of banks.
A couple guys here in Tucson had Diamond ProAm's so I went and played on one. I loved the way it played and it had pro cut pockets, 4.5 in. Anyway I ended up buying the Diamond Pro cause I didn't like the way the Pro Am looks. To me the Pro am looks like a giant bar box.
Boils down to personal preference. Brunswick makes a good table, but I didn't want shims.
 
ForumGhost516 said:
Hi everyone i am sure this is probably a matter of personal preference in feel, but as an average player apa level 7 and am going to be starting to play in some joss and predator events in NY, what would be the better home table, a brunswick gold crown or a diamond professional or PRO AM table. I have heard mixed reports on both but after watching a lot of the accu stats dvds i have noticed the majority is played on diamonds. Any help would be huge.


I bought a 9' Diamond ProAm two years ago and could not be happier! Plus most tournaments are played on Diamonds now because they can set them up so much faster. IMO Diamonds are the most "fair" playing table made.
 
Diamond makes two distinctively different tables. The Diamond Professional uses timber strand for the frame construction. It is stronger than anything I have ever seen except for a Gabriels steel frame(which is comparable.) It is available in either a 3 piece slate design or a one piece slate, depending upon your preference.

The Diamond Pro/Am has a box frame beneath it that is constructed of 1 1/2" thick plywood. It is designed to perfectly support the one inch thick one piece slate. This table has 22 leveling points built in underneath the slate. This table is normally delivered fully assembled on a cart on its side (the legs are removed for shipment.) This reduces the installation cost.

Since Diamond makes both 3 piece and one piece slates they have learned it is easier to level a one piece slate. The only advantage to a 3 piece slate is portability.
 
Paul8ball said:
Diamond makes two distinctively different tables. The Diamond Professional uses timber strand for the frame construction. It is stronger than anything I have ever seen except for a Gabriels steel frame(which is comparable.) It is available in either a 3 piece slate design or a one piece slate, depending upon your preference.

The Diamond Pro/Am has a box frame beneath it that is constructed of 1 1/2" thick plywood. It is designed to perfectly support the one inch thick one piece slate. This table has 22 leveling points built in underneath the slate. This table is normally delivered fully assembled on a cart on its side (the legs are removed for shipment.) This reduces the installation cost.

Since Diamond makes both 3 piece and one piece slates they have learned it is easier to level a one piece slate. The only advantage to a 3 piece slate is portability.
Very well said Paul. Not to mention moving and setting up a 3 piece slate 7-8 times, putting the seams together and taking them apart, and some idiot sanding the seams everytime that's done, the effect that has on the level of the slates at the seams.

Glen, "The....LOL
 
Black Cat 5791 said:
Hey Ghost Diamond all the way!!! And, due to drastic situations at home I may have to sell mine. Starting over is hard. If interested send me a PM.


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Love it to Death hate to let it go. Black Cat :cool:
That would be heart breaking if you have to sell that beautiful table!

James
 
Paul8ball said:
Diamond makes two distinctively different tables. The Diamond Professional uses timber strand for the frame construction. It is stronger than anything I have ever seen except for a Gabriels steel frame(which is comparable.) It is available in either a 3 piece slate design or a one piece slate, depending upon your preference.

The Diamond Pro/Am has a box frame beneath it that is constructed of 1 1/2" thick plywood. It is designed to perfectly support the one inch thick one piece slate. This table has 22 leveling points built in underneath the slate. This table is normally delivered fully assembled on a cart on its side (the legs are removed for shipment.) This reduces the installation cost.

Since Diamond makes both 3 piece and one piece slates they have learned it is easier to level a one piece slate. The only advantage to a 3 piece slate is portability.
Thanks for this great information on Diamond Tables. I didn't know this and when i'm ready to buy a 9' table i'll have a good idea of which one I want now.

James
 
I haven't read this whole thread, but just wanted to put in my .02. I love the Diamond Pro tables personally, but was surprised to hear both Johnny Archer and Earl Strickland a couple weeks ago tell me separately that they prefer playing on a Gold Crown. Maybe because that's what they grew up on? Oh yeah, so did I, lol. ;)
 
tucson9ball said:
My avatar says it all. Or at least my end result. I always played on GC's and wanted to get 1. Problem was that when ordering I found out I could not get smaller pockets. I didn't want the buckets like the pool halls here and if they are shimmed, well, some shims are better than others I guess. I play 1 pocket and sometimes shims get in the way of banks.
A couple guys here in Tucson had Diamond ProAm's so I went and played on one. I loved the way it played and it had pro cut pockets, 4.5 in. Anyway I ended up buying the Diamond Pro cause I didn't like the way the Pro Am looks. To me the Pro am looks like a giant bar box.
Boils down to personal preference. Brunswick makes a good table, but I didn't want shims.


If you wanted a brunswick but didnt want shims. u couldve gone with the metro tournament edition.
 
Tight Pocket Tournament Editions

Brunswick has tight pocket options on Metro and Gold Crown V with their "Tournament Editions" at 4.5".
All the featured Pro tournaments use these tables at Brunswick sponsored events. No aditional pocket facings are used to get there... Just longer cut cushions from the factory. They play like a dream!
 
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