Brunswick vs Diamond
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> These are my personal preferences and observations.
I REALLY like the sound of a ball slapping the back of a GC pocket,as opposed to the Diamond. This goes for the first 4 GC versions,I haven't seen a V in person yet. For me,this is better feedback on how well I hit it.
I haven't played on Diamonds very much,entirely because the closest ones are a 2 hour drive,but that also goes for the closest GC. Still,I have a LOT more experience playing on a GC.
It seems to me that a GC plays tougher/tighter than a Diamond does at roughly the same size and cut. As long as it doesn't spit out perfectly or well-hit shots down the rail,I'm happy. No particular preference here,I've seen tough as well as soft versions of both. That being said,I wouldn't order a Diamond with 4" or smaller pockets either.
Since the general comparison here is between 2 brands,I'd like to narrow my comparison to the Gold Crown and Diamond Pro,the 2 closest tables in each company's stable. I'd take a Pro-Am or Smart Table,or say a Brunswick Metro or Gibson,if someone was giving it to me,or would be more than happy to play there all I could if a new room were to open here with those tables. However,if I was spending my own money on it,my choices would be ONLY the Pro or GC.
If given a chance to buy an old GC or a used Diamond,the condition of the tables offered would be my measuring stick.
If I had the choice of a Diamond Pro or GC used at a tournament,the GC would more than likely be my choice,unless the Diamond light was included,making this a no-brainer.
Buying a brand-new table,there isn't a choice at all. Unless I'm mistaken,you can get the Pro,the light,and matching chairs installed for what the GC V retails for. Who on Earth would do that?
On quality of build,the Diamonds feel a lot more solid than the last GC IV's I played on.
Unless I can get a really nice late-model GC,or a GC I and have it restored for dramatically cheaper,I'll eventually order a Pro with the extras.
One question on the Pro,can you order it with the older-style rounded corner caps? Tommy D.
I REALLY like the sound of a ball slapping the back of a GC pocket,as opposed to the Diamond. This goes for the first 4 GC versions,I haven't seen a V in person yet. For me,this is better feedback on how well I hit it.
I haven't played on Diamonds very much,entirely because the closest ones are a 2 hour drive,but that also goes for the closest GC. Still,I have a LOT more experience playing on a GC.
It seems to me that a GC plays tougher/tighter than a Diamond does at roughly the same size and cut. As long as it doesn't spit out perfectly or well-hit shots down the rail,I'm happy. No particular preference here,I've seen tough as well as soft versions of both. That being said,I wouldn't order a Diamond with 4" or smaller pockets either.
Since the general comparison here is between 2 brands,I'd like to narrow my comparison to the Gold Crown and Diamond Pro,the 2 closest tables in each company's stable. I'd take a Pro-Am or Smart Table,or say a Brunswick Metro or Gibson,if someone was giving it to me,or would be more than happy to play there all I could if a new room were to open here with those tables. However,if I was spending my own money on it,my choices would be ONLY the Pro or GC.
If given a chance to buy an old GC or a used Diamond,the condition of the tables offered would be my measuring stick.
If I had the choice of a Diamond Pro or GC used at a tournament,the GC would more than likely be my choice,unless the Diamond light was included,making this a no-brainer.
Buying a brand-new table,there isn't a choice at all. Unless I'm mistaken,you can get the Pro,the light,and matching chairs installed for what the GC V retails for. Who on Earth would do that?
On quality of build,the Diamonds feel a lot more solid than the last GC IV's I played on.
Unless I can get a really nice late-model GC,or a GC I and have it restored for dramatically cheaper,I'll eventually order a Pro with the extras.
One question on the Pro,can you order it with the older-style rounded corner caps? Tommy D.
Tommy-D One question on the Pro said:Yes, you can, but not with the Dymondwood finish, it has to be in the natural wood finish, as the Dymondwood can't be made to size up the rounded corner caps
Glen
But keep in mind though, I already have shown that if someone wants a ProAm, I can bring in the table completely dissasembled and set it up in ANY location that ANY other table can be installed in, using a 3 piece slateIsland Drive said:
it just takes a little longer is all. Glen
When we designed the Smart Tables at Diamond, we designed in the ability to disassemble the table as well. The reason was to be able to have the option of being able to pack in the table no different than any other table and reassemble it on location, rather than lose a sale. It's just that in the last 7 years or so, we haven't had to exercise that option as of yet, until I installed the 9ft ProAm with a 3 piece slate in Steve Duthie's house in Bellingham, WA. earlier this year Steve would have taken a Professional as a second choice, but I gave him the option of the ProAm with a 3 piece slate, and he accepted, case closed
Glen
Steve would have taken a Professional as a second choice, but I gave him the option of the ProAm with a 3 piece slate, and he accepted, case closed Glen
easy-e said:
I'd have to agree with you. After shooting on a Diamond, I have fallen in love with them. If I had to buy a table it would be a 9 foot Diamond no doubt.
The RealKingCobra is the real deal....
Between the two i would suggest the Diamond.....I have an Olhausen 9 footer and love that...Also on any serious advice for a table listen to the Guru himself The Dahli Lama of pool tables "The RealKingCobra"..This guy is as good as it gets in the world..He is straight up with his answers and you can always count on him..we at AZ are very lucky and priviledged to have him post here...
Between the two i would suggest the Diamond.....I have an Olhausen 9 footer and love that...Also on any serious advice for a table listen to the Guru himself The Dahli Lama of pool tables "The RealKingCobra"..This guy is as good as it gets in the world..He is straight up with his answers and you can always count on him..we at AZ are very lucky and priviledged to have him post here...
realkingcobra said:I move them all the time by myself, what's the big deal
Glen
If its size won't negotiate all the turns and corners that your HOME has..then get a table that will...thats all. Some thing just won't fit, my point being, make sure you can negotiate the obstacles before you purchase your table. If I were a car salesman I would'nt sell a VW bug to a 800 pound person for obvious reasons.
realkingcobra said:But keep in mind though, I already have shown that if someone wants a ProAm, I can bring in the table completely dissasembled and set it up in ANY location that ANY other table can be installed in, using a 3 piece slate
Glen
I said a one piece slate didn't I? No argument on 3 piece.
Enough said:
Island, I know and understand what you're saying about the one piece slate not fitting into some homes. All I'm trying to say is that if someone wants a ProAm, the issue of the slate shouldn't sour the sale, because that same table is versatile with a 3 piece slate, making it adaptable to any situation. I wouldn't recommend a one piece slate to anyone if it won't fit into the house, I mean...who would? But at the same time, why would I turn away a sale, or redirect it to another table if the customer had their heart set on a ProAm? Because they can't get the one piece slate in the house...they can't get the table in either? My only point is that this table is universal with either slateIsland Drive said:
Glen
Yes, it sure canJimS said:
but falls under the same restrictions as far as being able to be installed in the location as a ProAm Glen
Diamond rules, but their new website is brutal
I think both tables play great. I have also played on both that played goofy. Brunswick play soft for the most part. Diamonds play more alive. I think Diamonds play almost too alive after a month but the rails play true.
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
If you want to simulate the average tournament condition you should go with what is played on the most: Diamond Pro or Pro-Am.ForumGhost516 said:
Personally, I prefer Diamond Pros in every aspect.
Sweet Marissa said:
I don't play many big tournaments and most (90%) of the local ones I play in have GC's.
So your "average condition" probably isn't the same as everyone's.
Russ....
Now you're talking. I'm a Diamond owner/lover but I'd trade it for a Gabriels in a second.
pj
chgo
Tables
Well, if your Diamond is a 7' Proam let me know. I have a 9' Gabriels that won't fit in my new house.
Patrick Johnson said:
Well, if your Diamond is a 7' Proam let me know. I have a 9' Gabriels that won't fit in my new house.
Sweet Marissa
www.Bella-Muse.com
I agree, but I took from his post that he was going to be playing in the Joss and Predator events in his area and I believe those are played on Diamonds. I can't be 100% certain, though.poolhustler said: