C.J. Wiley VS Keith McCready - What's The Line?

I've been a CJ Wiley fan since the same day he beat J. Archer 4 set at 2k a set for a total of 8k in Dallas long before he opened his pool hall in Dallas. On a side note SJ DIN PHX you're a MAJOR NIT old man.
 
The "Idle Hour," what a spot, I haven't heard that name in over 30 years. :thumbup:

I can't remember all the names of towns and players, there was a tremendous amount of action in that entire area of Mo. and NE Arkansas.

Jerry Watson from Canada came around Farmington when I was hanging around. We played in some guy's basement and I beat him 2 sets.....he was a great player and I was probably the under-dog at that time (I was 17). He had just been over in Louisville Ky during the Derby and cleaned up on the bar table.

I called him "Doc Watson," he carried a "cane cue" and wore a white, panama hat. He still contacts me from somewhere in the Philippines (on FaceBook).....he told me if I went over there where he is I'd never want to leave.....wonder if he was "hustling" me. ;)

There was a pool room in Caruthersville with a poker game in the back where most of the local gambling went on, also a little bar called Woody's with a couple of bar boxes. There was a local player everyone talked about named Harold Smith who was a river boat pilot who supposedly played real well. On a side note back about 70 the Idle Hour would have customer appreciation on Thursday night and along with a happy hour they would have whatever someone had killed or caught that week. We had some unusual meals.
 
FWIW, Dave, Keith knows how to navigate on the computer to play poker online and do Google searches. His typing skills, however, are kind of like a hunt-and-peck style with two index fingers.

Me, on the other hand, I get paid to convert the spoken word verbatim into print. In fact, believe it or not, I am certified to do so. This is my expertise.

Transcribing and being certified to do so does NOT equal your ability to do so here, especially considering you have a vested interest in the person for whom you're allegedly transcribing. Meaning, a court would never allow the wife/gf of a witness to perform transcribing services for a given case - you know that.

The fact is --- NO ONE knows 100% IF Keith really IS there when you use his account. I, among others, would PREFER to read his chicken-pecked chopped-up posts over your highly filtered/polished posts because we would know they're HIS exact words -- not your words. Whether Keith is there at all is really your word against the world's, like the Kennedy assassination, no one knows for sure.

As such, it is faster and easier for me to type Keith's words for him. Yes, we use the same computer sometimes, and, yes, we both post on AzBilliards and have separate member identities.

Please link to any post under Keith's screenname where he, alone, posted.


In fact, if you want to get down to brass tacks, Keith used to be a contributing author to InsidePOOL magazine. Of course, the articles were his stories, as well as the instruction on how to shoot the shot. I couldn't descirbe how to shoot the shots, and I definitely don't have the pool stories he does. I did polish the article and made it read better for the magazine, and then it was edited by the editor before print. I was ridiculed then, as was Keith, for my contribution to that endeavor, so much so that we quit doing it. It just wasn't worth the headache. Some folks did enjoy the articles, though, and so that is a good thing.

This is also one big reason Keith had requested to not be in the Ask the Pro section, because of members like you suggesting it was not him writing the posts.

I think if someone ridiculed you for the above, it was unwarranted. It's different because you yourself are not making controversial articles and then writing articles for Keith that seemingly back yours up. It's apples and oranges, totally different.

There have been plenty of times where you're in the middle of an uber-controversial back-and-forth using your JAM account when you've then posted, "UH OH -- You have awoken a sleeping giant!!!!" and then proceed to login under Keith's account and make a grammatically "beautiful" post that fist-fcks the opposing member using Keith's name as a final "up yours" to that person.

On AzBilliards Discussion Forum, I don't polish Keith's words or edit them. The words you see written are the words that come out of his mouth. Of course, it doesn't really matter to you, I realize. This is just an opportunity for you to take a shot at me. I caught your reply to Keith's initial post in an earlier thread about him joining the cast of American Road Player. Nobody else caught it, except me, I'm sure. ;)

That's categorically false and if I had a way to collect, I'd bet the entire PLANET EARTH that the above paragraph is total horsesheeeit. You do not transcribe the exact, unadulterated words as they flow from Keith's mouth. Just because you're "the girlfriend" and live with Keith, doesn't mean you were the only person ever to spend time with him. I, like many others here, have spent time with Keith and I know exactly how his thoughts flow from his mouth and there is ZERO (STRESS ZERO) chance that his posts are exact transcriptions -- and many of "his" posts were made by you to back up...you. You 100% polish and edit his words.

Heck, if I had a intergalactic ship large enough, I'd bet the entire SOLAR SYSTEM the above is nonsense and so would everyone else on here who knows better. It's not a KNOCK as you're trying to spin this--- it's a STONE COLD FACT.

It's very easy to prove, by the way, if you and Keith would be willing to participate. We can stream THAT bet, if you wish.

If you do have a problem with Keith posting on this forum, with me typing his words, I would strongly suggest you direct your concern to Mike Howerton or Jerry Forsyth. That may be the next step for you to take since it seems to have caused you discontentment.

Seasons Greetings to you! :smile:

I have a problem with you using Keith's name to make your posts. We, outside of your conflict-of-interest-riddled word, have zero clue if Keith was EVER near the computer while you made ANY of his posts.... and Mike and Jerry would have to give that up as well, because --- since you're admitting to logging in to his account to make posts, there's no way to ever validate he's ever there, ever.

By the way, if you ever wanted to make the above bet and stream it, I need to contact Lockheed Martin Skunkworks to see if they can build me a space vessel that's big enough to collect the "ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM."

I'd definitely have to get a custom-made license plate for my new ship, however:

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^^^ I'd win the aforementioned bet in "LUDICROUS SPEED"
 
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Transcribing and being certified to do so does NOT equal your ability to do so here, especially considering you have a vested interest in the person for whom you're allegedly transcribing. Meaning, a court would never allow the wife/gf of a witness to perform transcribing services for a given case - you know that.

The fact is --- NO ONE knows 100% IF Keith really IS there when you use his account. I, among others, would PREFER to read his chicken-pecked chopped-up posts over your highly filtered/polished posts because we would know they're HIS exact words -- not your words. Whether Keith is there at all is really your word against the world's, like the Kennedy assassination, no one knows for sure.



Please link to any post under Keith's screenname where he, alone, posted.




I think if someone ridiculed you for the above, it was unwarranted. It's different because you yourself are not making controversial articles and then writing articles for Keith that seemingly back yours up. It's apples and oranges, totally different.

There have been plenty of times where you're in the middle of an uber-controversial back-and-forth using your JAM account when you've then posted, "UH OH -- You have awoken a sleeping giant!!!!" and then proceed to login under Keith's account and make a grammatically "beautiful" post that fist-fcks the opposing member using Keith's name as a final "up yours" to that person.



That's categorically false and if I had a way to collect, I'd bet the entire PLANET EARTH that the above paragraph is total horsesheeeit. You do not transcribe the exact, unadulterated words as they flow from Keith's mouth. Just because you're "the girlfriend" and live with Keith, doesn't mean you were the only person ever to spend time with him. I, like many others here, have spent time with Keith and I know exactly how his thoughts flow from his mouth and there is ZERO (STRESS ZERO) chance that his posts are exact transcriptions -- and many of "his" posts were made by you to back up...you. You 100% polish and edit his words.

Heck, if I had a intergalactic ship large enough, I'd bet the entire SOLAR SYSTEM the above is nonsense and so would everyone else on here who knows better. It's not a KNOCK as you're trying to spin this--- it's a STONE COLD FACT.

It's very easy to prove, by the way, if you and Keith would be willing to participate. We can stream THAT bet, if you wish.



I have a problem with you using Keith's name to make your posts. We, outside of your conflict-of-interest-riddled word, have zero clue if Keith was EVER near the computer while you made ANY of his posts.... and Mike and Jerry would have to give that up as well, because --- since you're admitting to logging in to his account to make posts, there's no way to ever validate he's ever there, ever.

By the way, if you ever wanted to make the above bet and stream it, I need to contact Lockheed Martin Skunkworks to see if they can build me a space vessel that's big enough to collect the "ENTIRE SOLAR SYSTEM."

I'd definitely have to get a custom-made license plate for my new ship, however:

^^^ I'd win the aforementioned bet in "LUDICROUS SPEED"

Please contact Mike Howerton and/or Jerry Forsyth about your concerns.

By the tone of your post, it isn't truly worth my time of day. I feel sorry for you, if you want to know the truth. Your words reveal that there is nothing anybody could write that would appease your discontentment when you go verbally postal like this. It must be difficult for you to endure. :sorry:

Best of luck to you, and Happy Holidays! :)

And, yes, I do log into Keith's account. Sometimes we use the same computer. I have to log out, to let log him in. Sheesh!
 
Enough Bickering and more Dickering

OK folks,

Let's quit the bickering and make more room for the dickering!

One of the posters in this thread claimed that Keith wouldn't get to 20 in a race to 25 with CJ. I think there are a lot of people who may disagree with this.

The ONLY people who really know at what level they are capable of performing at today or in the future are the players themselves.

If BOTH players think THEY can win, then it is up to them to either make the challenge or accept the challenge and then there can be "dickering" as to when, where, and for "how much". The "how much" can be decided amongst themselves, should they choose to make it a gambling affair, or it could be offered by someone who was willing to produce the "show" and share the profits.

Aloha.
 
OK folks,

Let's quit the bickering and make more room for the dickering!

One of the posters in this thread claimed that Keith wouldn't get to 20 in a race to 25 with CJ. I think there are a lot of people who may disagree with this.

The ONLY people who really know at what level they are capable of performing at today or in the future are the players themselves.

If BOTH players think THEY can win, then it is up to them to either make the challenge or accept the challenge and then there can be "dickering" as to when, where, and for "how much". The "how much" can be decided amongst themselves, should they choose to make it a gambling affair, or it could be offered by someone who was willing to produce the "show" and share the profits.

Aloha.

Keith read the thread earlier today. He said that if the "Internet readers" -- his words, not mine -- would like this match to happen, then they can put up the dough.

His initial thoughts were that after he practices a few weeks to get back in stroke, that maybe he'd rather compete in a different setting than one created by the "Internet readers." He has already received three invites to compete in 2015 by those who appreciate Keith as a player and a person.

But, he said, if the "Internet readers" want to see it happen, then have 'em put up 25 dimes. Then CJ and Keith can get ready to rumble.

I'm so disgusted with this forum and some of the members who post here that I don't give a damn if it ever happens, and I don't give a hill of beans if Keith ever plays pool again. That's my thoughts on pool, this thread, this forum, and a match between CJ v. Keith.

You all have yourselves a very nice day. :)
 
Keith read the thread earlier today. He said that if the "Internet readers" -- his words, not mine -- would like this match to happen, then they can put up the dough.

His initial thoughts were that after he practices a few weeks to get back in stroke, that maybe he'd rather compete in a different setting than one created by the "Internet readers." He has already received three invites to compete in 2015 by those who appreciate Keith as a player and a person.

But, he said, if the "Internet readers" want to see it happen, then have 'em put up 25 dimes. Then CJ and Keith can get ready to rumble.
I'm so disgusted with this forum and some of the members who post here that I don't give a damn if it ever happens, and I don't give a hill of beans if Keith ever plays pool again. That's my thoughts on pool, this thread, this forum, and a match between CJ v. Keith.

You all have yourselves a very nice day. :)

We all (at least me) appreciate Keith as a player and a person (even though I've never had the good fortune of meeting him) and that is why I think it would be good to see him back playing again (if that is his desire). The same goes for CJ.

Since Keith brought up the number of 25 dimes, I'll let the people on here who specialize in producing and broadcasting matches figure out if that is a profitable and doable venture.

Aloha. Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all.
 
Please contact Mike Howerton and/or Jerry Forsyth about your concerns.

By the tone of your post, it isn't truly worth my time of day. I feel sorry for you, if you want to know the truth. Your words reveal that there is nothing anybody could write that would appease your discontentment when you go verbally postal like this. It must be difficult for you to endure. :sorry:

Best of luck to you, and Happy Holidays! :)

And, yes, I do log into Keith's account. Sometimes we use the same computer. I have to log out, to let log him in. Sheesh!

You don't let him log in because you're logging him in to transcribe for him, remember?

Or, are you switching chairs after the login?

Anyways, I've made my point -- you don't have to reply.
 
You don't let him log in because you're logging him in to transcribe for him, remember?

Or, are you switching chairs after the login?

Anyways, I've made my point -- you don't have to reply.

No, you have made no point. If I want to type Keith's words when he wants to say something on this forum, I am going to do it. Nothing you say will prevent me from doing so.

You and your discontentment with it won't stop me. Again, if you have a problem with it, please contact the moderator, Mr. Wilson, Mike Howerton, or Jerry Forsyth. If you don't, I will.

And by the way, Keith said if you have a problem with it, then call him. I gave you his number one time when you wanted to ask him about a shot. Why I did that, I will never know. He's standing right here right now, waiting for your call. I don't even know your name to tell him. He said you need to give it a rest, but I will let him tell you that himself.
 
...I'm so disgusted with this forum and some of the members who post here that I don't give a damn if it ever happens, and I don't give a hill of beans if Keith ever plays pool again. That's my thoughts on pool, this thread, this forum, and a match between CJ v. Keith.

Jen, its not like you to even think about giving up !..Why would anyone care if you help Keith with his verbage, and polish his offerings a little bit ?..I would expect the same thing from my better half..(She typed 140 wpm's, compared to my 12, :embarrassed2:)
..I like Keith's answer to playing CJ.."If the AZB forum wants to see it..let them put up the $$$"...Classic Keith ! ;) Hang in there kid, and don't let anyone try to insult you off the forum !

SJD

PS..Keith WILL play pool again..Its in his blood !..I came back to pool, when I retired (at 62) after 20 years at UPS....In a few months, I scraped the rust off, and was playing, (at least one pocket) as well, or better than I had ever played it in my life ! Many witnesses to back that up !..BTW, It sure helps a lot, when you don't HAVE to depend on pool for your livelihood ! :p
 
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