CA$H Cues - Tommy's Contact Info

Well, if this is true, he made a big mistake

Thanks. I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row before I file my poli e report next week. I'm trying to decide if there is a way to get my companies office at the FBI involved for international wire fraud but that may be stretching it. I'll try and keep everyone informed.

R,

Greg

Greg,

To get this investigation kicked off, I would e-mail Officer Holt, Chief of the Jackson TN Criminal Investigation...

mholt@cityofjackson.net

....with some facts in this matter,to ask what the best way to report online fraud and possible false identity/identity theft. Or you can phone them at (731) 425-8493 or fax number them (731) 425-8565.

Once you find out the best way to report it, perhaps you can come back here so anybody else who was defrauded can make the same report.

This was a huge mistake. Since the advent of identity theft laws, in Tennessee it carries criminal penalties ranging from misdemeanor to serious felony charges. This depends on the extent of this person's activity, if identity theft were involved and what criminal activity was conducted with the false identity.

From the facts, I would say it is extensive and worth a criminal investigation. There is reason to believe there was actual identity theft and fraud. It seems to me there is ample evidence to warrant an investigation. Depending upon what documentation was used and what acts were committed, it's a Class D felony in Tennessee (Code Ann. §39-14-150).

Tommy has a lot to lose - a calss D felony carries 2 - 12 years depending on past convictions.

http://www.tncrimlaw.com/TPI_Crim/11_35.htm

http://www.mytennesseedefenselawyer.com/criminal-charges/

Now if I were Tommy, I would get on here and make it right with the AZ members. I don't care if you have to send them cues, cases, shafts, or golf clubs - make it right then just disappear forever. It might help matters in your legal situation. Get on here now.

Chris
 
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Greg,

To get this investigation kicked off, I would e-mail Officer Holt, Chief of the Jackson TN Criminal Investigation...

mholt@cityofjackson.net

....with some facts in this matter,to ask what the best way to report online fraud and possible false identity/identity theft. Or you can phone them at (731) 425-8493 or fax number them (731) 425-8565.

Once you find out the best way to report it, perhaps you can come back here so anybody else who was defrauded can make the same report.

This was a huge mistake. Since the advent of identity theft laws, in Tennessee it carries criminal penalties ranging from misdemeanor to serious felony charges. This depends on the extent of this person's activity, if identity theft were involved and what criminal activity was conducted with the false identity.

From the facts, I would say it is extensive and worth a criminal investigation. There is reason to believe there was actual identity theft and fraud. It seems to me there is ample evidence to warrant an investigation. Depending upon what documentation was used and what acts were committed, it's a Class D felony in Tennessee (Code Ann. §39-14-150).

Tommy has a lot to lose - a calss D felony carries 2 - 12 years depending on past convictions.

http://www.tncrimlaw.com/TPI_Crim/11_35.htm

http://www.mytennesseedefenselawyer.com/criminal-charges/

Now if I were Tommy, I would get on here and make it right with the AZ members. I don't care if you have to send them cues, cases, shafts, or golf clubs - make it right then just disappear forever. It might help matters in your legal situation. Get on here now.

Chris

Sam Engles is in a mess. A mess only he created and he should admit that to himself. I've seen things like this happen to others outside the pool world and it's never pretty. I actually feel for this guy. He's down and doesn't know how to get up.

Sam, step up to the plate and say ''here I am'', and be honest and truthful. You'll be surprised how forgiving some people can be and will try to work with you. Hiding and avoiding people you owe IS NOT THE ANSWER. Face your problems, head on, and then go forward. Things like this can be worked out... it's up to you. From one human being to another, I sincerely hope you make the right choices. It's not too late.
 
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Prison is no fun for guys like this....and this offense can land you in jail as tate already stated....the false identity and alias really makes these crimes stick. Tate already covered it but without the aliases he wouldn't be in as bad a spot
 
Greg,

To get this investigation kicked off, I would e-mail Officer Holt, Chief of the Jackson TN Criminal Investigation...

mholt@cityofjackson.net

....with some facts in this matter,to ask what the best way to report online fraud and possible false identity/identity theft. Or you can phone them at (731) 425-8493 or fax number them (731) 425-8565.

Once you find out the best way to report it, perhaps you can come back here so anybody else who was defrauded can make the same report.

This was a huge mistake. Since the advent of identity theft laws, in Tennessee it carries criminal penalties ranging from misdemeanor to serious felony charges. This depends on the extent of this person's activity, if identity theft were involved and what criminal activity was conducted with the false identity.

From the facts, I would say it is extensive and worth a criminal investigation. There is reason to believe there was actual identity theft and fraud. It seems to me there is ample evidence to warrant an investigation. Depending upon what documentation was used and what acts were committed, it's a Class D felony in Tennessee (Code Ann. §39-14-150).

Tommy has a lot to lose - a calss D felony carries 2 - 12 years depending on past convictions.

http://www.tncrimlaw.com/TPI_Crim/11_35.htm

http://www.mytennesseedefenselawyer.com/criminal-charges/

Now if I were Tommy, I would get on here and make it right with the AZ members. I don't care if you have to send them cues, cases, shafts, or golf clubs - make it right then just disappear forever. It might help matters in your legal situation. Get on here now.

Chris

Chris,

I really appreciate this information. AZBilliards members have been amazing in the wealth of helpful knowledge they posses. I now feel like I have some avenues to pursue. I'll keep everyone informed with what I find out.

R,

Greg
 
Good luck Greg - I've sent him a PM to make sure this gets his attention.

Chris
 
....tommy has portrayed himself as a cue maker.....not dealer.....but a cue maker out of bill's old shop. Maybe I'm wrong but if I'm not thats pretty low.....

This is why I ordered my shaft from him. Thankfully I got it. Glad I didn't pursue ordering a cue. Just look at the postings in the shaft thread...

"We have been working on our own ferrule-less LD shaft and have been successful."

"Let me make your cue a custom high performance, ferrule-less CA$H shaft. "

"Let me build one of my high performance, ferrule-less shafts for your prized cue. "


Is the WCC shop aware of what happened?
 
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I wish the best for everyone to get there money back or the cues/shafts they have coming to them. I`ve never had a deal with ''hangemhigh'' myself, but I did send some of my tips to him for a very good friend of mine azer ''3RAILKICK'' he was getting my tips installed on one of the ferrule-less LD shafts offered by Tommy. 3RAILKICK has never gotten his shaft back as of yet. This is just not right. Hope he (Tommy) or what ever his real name is comes on this thread & make things right with people he owes things to.
I will be watching this thread to see what happens.
Jeff
 
I talked to a friend of mine who is a forum member....he said he had a wrap put on badly by someone in that shop other than the guys in the pictures......this is confusing.....so many people in the shop and affiliated???? Does anyone know the tommy and jess that actually own/build the cues.....and was cash cues a name that tommy stanfill/tommy hindman/sam engles......used?
 
Hey folks,

I'm getting ready to file Police reports here (Seoul, Korea), in Jackson Tenessee and with the FBI Legal Attache office in Seoul. Would anybody mind giving me your name, contact information and brief statement of what happened between you and Tommy/Tommy/Sam? It would help build a case against the guy. I've heard that he might be facing felony charges because of all of this and the bigger we can make the case, the better.

I swear on everything that is holy that I will keep all of the information between you, me and the police. I would just like to be able to show that there has been a history of this guy ripping people off, especially people/U.S. citizens overseas.

Thanks

Greg
gsantrim@hotmail.com
 
Hey folks,

I'm getting ready to file Police reports here (Seoul, Korea), in Jackson Tenessee and with the FBI Legal Attache office in Seoul. Would anybody mind giving me your name, contact information and brief statement of what happened between you and Tommy/Tommy/Sam? It would help build a case against the guy. I've heard that he might be facing felony charges because of all of this and the bigger we can make the case, the better.

I swear on everything that is holy that I will keep all of the information between you, me and the police. I would just like to be able to show that there has been a history of this guy ripping people off, especially people/U.S. citizens overseas.

Thanks

Greg
gsantrim@hotmail.com
Greg thanks for the pm I'm very sorry to here this I'll work on the Letter ASAP.
 
Day after I got it. He did offer to repair it for free.
 

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Day after I got it. He did offer to repair it for free.

I can tell you that, in my opinion, this cue shaft is built in violation of Predator's patent.

Predator is very active about enforcing their intellectual property, so don't be surprised if they get their lawyers involved when they find out someone is building cue shafts in violation of their patent.
 
I can tell you that, in my opinion, this cue shaft is built in violation of Predator's patent.

Predator is very active about enforcing their intellectual property, so don't be surprised if they get their lawyers involved when they find out someone is building cue shafts in violation of their patent.

We took one apart and it was very much like a Predator. It was hollowed out with something kind of like Gorilla glue in the hollowed out portion of the shaft about 3 inches down into the shaft. I will say that I bought 3 of them from Tommy and they were all very nice shafts made to exacting specifications and turned around in the stated time frame.

-don
 
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I can tell you that, in my opinion, this cue shaft is built in violation of Predator's patent.

Predator is very active about enforcing their intellectual property, so don't be surprised if they get their lawyers involved when they find out someone is building cue shafts in violation of their patent.

Patents are funny... If the patent claim that mentions the hollow section also claims a ferrule or references a ferrule, then a shaft like the one in the pic would not violate it. It just depends how broad a claim the patent attorneys were able to get, and had the foresight to go after.

Anyway pred patents are about to expire. I fully expect complete knockoffs being mass produced on the market in the next few yrs.
 
Patents are funny...

What do you mean patents are funny?!

Do they make you laugh?!

How are they so funny?!

You think they're funny like a clown?!

Like they're here to amuse you?!

How are they so !@+#ing funny?!!

What's so funny about 'em!?

Best,
Brian kc :cool: :p :cool:
 
Patents are funny... If the patent claim that mentions the hollow section also claims a ferrule or references a ferrule, then a shaft like the one in the pic would not violate it. It just depends how broad a claim the patent attorneys were able to get, and had the foresight to go after.

Anyway pred patents are about to expire. I fully expect complete knockoffs being mass produced on the market in the next few yrs.

What makes you think that this is not already happening?

Also FWIW Predator could certainly have the upper hand against these Cash shafts because the hole is central to their patent. They can show that the performance of the Cash shaft is directly related to the decrease in endmass achieved by removal of wood. A technique that they patented.

Good luck finding the person who did it though to sue him. Seems like Tommy/Sam is a ghost.
 
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