Can we get the Forsale section separated?
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FYI...here are just a few rules from another forum I frequent that is not pool related. Membership is much greater than AZ.
1. You must have 75 posts to create a new Ad. Club members are exempt from the restriction. Users can pay $5 to get their Ad approved if under 75 posts.
2. Pinned Ad fees are $10 for the first week, $5 for renewal. That is for up to 10 items, all rules apply.
3. Members are allowed one listing, maximum of 10 items, per 30 days of a particular item and one listing per 24 hours (i.e. no listing of an item, selling it, closing the ad and starting a brand new one a few hours later). Seller must combine their Ads and cannot post new Ads unless their previous Ad is Closed or deleted.
4. Must have a sale price. Including items up for trade. Sellers must combine their Ads and cannot post new Ads unless their previous Ad is Closed or deleted. All For Sale Items must be combined/listed in One Ad.
5. Must have Photos. Small or blurry images in your Ad may cause it to be removed without warning. Also, because its impossible to tell if an Ebay picture is original, no watermarked images from Ebay or similar type hosting services is allowed. If wanting to use those services, then please post a picture with your username visible with the item.
6. All WTB posts are locked. Replies should be sent by PM or Email. Listing trade items requires pictures and prices and should be placed in the FS section, not the WTB section.
7. Members must close your own AD once the item(s) is sold, traded or no longer available.
8. Bumping Rules
9. No negative comments regarding sellers asking prices
1. You must have 75 posts to create a new Ad. Club members are exempt from the restriction. Users can pay $5 to get their Ad approved if under 75 posts.
2. Pinned Ad fees are $10 for the first week, $5 for renewal. That is for up to 10 items, all rules apply.
3. Members are allowed one listing, maximum of 10 items, per 30 days of a particular item and one listing per 24 hours (i.e. no listing of an item, selling it, closing the ad and starting a brand new one a few hours later). Seller must combine their Ads and cannot post new Ads unless their previous Ad is Closed or deleted.
4. Must have a sale price. Including items up for trade. Sellers must combine their Ads and cannot post new Ads unless their previous Ad is Closed or deleted. All For Sale Items must be combined/listed in One Ad.
5. Must have Photos. Small or blurry images in your Ad may cause it to be removed without warning. Also, because its impossible to tell if an Ebay picture is original, no watermarked images from Ebay or similar type hosting services is allowed. If wanting to use those services, then please post a picture with your username visible with the item.
6. All WTB posts are locked. Replies should be sent by PM or Email. Listing trade items requires pictures and prices and should be placed in the FS section, not the WTB section.
7. Members must close your own AD once the item(s) is sold, traded or no longer available.
8. Bumping Rules
- Posts are now sorted by Date of Topic Creation.
- Sellers must combine their Ads and cannot post new Ads unless their previous Ad is Closed or deleted.
- Please PM a moderator or report your post to have it moved to the Archive Forum or to be deleted.
- Repeated improper Reposting of Ads can warrant suspension of forum rights.
- Sellers must combine their Ads and cannot post new Ads unless their previous Ad is Closed or deleted.
- Please PM a moderator or report your post to have it moved to the Archive Forum or to be deleted.
- Repeated improper Reposting of Ads can warrant suspension of forum rights.
9. No negative comments regarding sellers asking prices
Not yet. But I will direct him here in case he hasn't seen it. I want to get as much feedback as we can.
JV
I do not believe that Mike & Co created this subsection of the forum to make it a shopping cart.
Having that said, I think if they created 3 sub-forums like:
> Custom cues and cases
> Production cues and cases
> Accessories
This 3 sub-categories should be more than enough to clear the clutter.
Having that said, I think if they created 3 sub-forums like:
> Custom cues and cases
> Production cues and cases
> Accessories
This 3 sub-categories should be more than enough to clear the clutter.
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Maybe the postings could be like craigslist in that if you are a DEALER,you would have a section.If you are an individual with an offering,it would be in another?WTF!
Maybe the postings could be like craigslist in that if you are a DEALER,you would have a section.If you are an individual with an offering,it would be in another?WTF!
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Seems like the ones that really have considerations of this post are the ones that have the most BUMPS per day.I said it before,and I will say it again.Just imagine if this website did not exist for you.No one has replied to any of my posts in the past,not that I care.I just like the site the way it is.It is the highlight of my eve.and my time.What little I have.I have learned a lot from this site and hve purchased a few and will buy more.The day that this site is Commercialized,is the day that I and many others will search for other venues for entertainment and purchases.I am all for making the wanted for sale section easy to use.It just seems to me that the ones having the problems with it is the ones that are BUMPING the chit out of it to sell their goods.Get a store,pay your rent.For guys like me,that find this site very informative and exciting for the game.I think it is great the way it is.No pun intended guys.I just like it the way it is.Cases section,Cues section,Wanted section,Give away to cherity section.Yes.Charging for BUMPS!Paying fees for hits!Bla Bla Bla.Sounds like my Biz.and the yellow pages.I said it before,and I will say it again,watch out what you ask for,you just might get it.This site is FREE right.OK.That is my input fellas.
Have a good night
Seems like the ones that really have considerations of this post are the ones that have the most BUMPS per day.I said it before,and I will say it again.Just imagine if this website did not exist for you.No one has replied to any of my posts in the past,not that I care.I just like the site the way it is.It is the highlight of my eve.and my time.What little I have.I have learned a lot from this site and hve purchased a few and will buy more.The day that this site is Commercialized,is the day that I and many others will search for other venues for entertainment and purchases.I am all for making the wanted for sale section easy to use.It just seems to me that the ones having the problems with it is the ones that are BUMPING the chit out of it to sell their goods.Get a store,pay your rent.For guys like me,that find this site very informative and exciting for the game.I think it is great the way it is.No pun intended guys.I just like it the way it is.Cases section,Cues section,Wanted section,Give away to cherity section.Yes.Charging for BUMPS!Paying fees for hits!Bla Bla Bla.Sounds like my Biz.and the yellow pages.I said it before,and I will say it again,watch out what you ask for,you just might get it.This site is FREE right.OK.That is my input fellas.
Have a good night
I have an Idea, Lets make it a Dealers wanted for sale section and one general wanted for sales section. Dealers get to pay extra for being a member in that section and may be in return get extra message space or some other facilities.
I think this will smooth things a lot:thumbup:
I think this will smooth things a lot:thumbup:
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Ok guys,I am man enough to admit that I was wrong.In the amount of time it took me to read and reply 2 times to this thread,it was moved 1 full page.Maybe something must be done.Although I like AZ the way it is,maybe it is a bigger animal than I can comprehend.All respect to all AZers.Love it,make it better the right way.
Ok guys,I am man enough to admit that I was wrong.In the amount of time it took me to read and reply 2 times to this thread,it was moved 1 full page.Maybe something must be done.Although I like AZ the way it is,maybe it is a bigger animal than I can comprehend.All respect to all AZers.Love it,make it better the right way.
Doesn't work for me. If you are going to subdivide the forum then you might as well have enough categories. I mean some are talking about separate forums for custom v. production cues or dealers v. occasional sellers. That's 4 categories just for cues, that's overkill. Yet some critical categories are being overlooked.
What needs to be added to the above list are separate a forum for cases and a separate forum that includes DVD's, books, and professional instruction. This doesn't fit into "accessories" (racks, chalk, extenders, balls, etc.) and there is a lot of instruction and instructional materials for sale to warrant its own forum. You can throw other DVD's and book in with these.
The only separation we need is shirkers/scammers and non-shirkers/scammers. 
Get rid of the former.
Otherwise I like seeing all items together.
Categories would just create problems.
A bump or two every day or so should be the understood norm. Nothing more.
Get rid of the former.
Otherwise I like seeing all items together.
Categories would just create problems.
A bump or two every day or so should be the understood norm. Nothing more.
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I dun mind things as they are. Though it is true items are being bump to oblivion very quickly.
Hey but that also means there is lots of traffic around here. Yippee!
I dun mind things being segregated either. Just not too many. Maybe just one for cues and one for cases and accessories. And maybe in those section have some sticky for regular dealers.
But i am happy either way.
Hey but that also means there is lots of traffic around here. Yippee!
I dun mind things being segregated either. Just not too many. Maybe just one for cues and one for cases and accessories. And maybe in those section have some sticky for regular dealers.
But i am happy either way.
Guys, come on.....price breakdown and type of seller is overkill. Not too many is the key. More than a handful or so categories would defeat the purpose imo, thus creating more clutter. I've been scanning through a lot of pages here and used Marcus' recommendations as a baseline. These come to mind as the major categories that can capture and divide everything cleanly.
1. Custom Cues and Cases
2. Production Cues and Cases
3. Shafts, Tips, Joint Caps
4. Other Accessories and Services (instruction materials, etc.)
5. Clothing
6. Tables and Table Parts
1. Custom Cues and Cases
2. Production Cues and Cases
3. Shafts, Tips, Joint Caps
4. Other Accessories and Services (instruction materials, etc.)
5. Clothing
6. Tables and Table Parts
i'm actually a big advocate of leaving the FS section just the way it is. separating it is only going to make it harder for people to stumble onto items they don't know they want.
i've bought more than a few items just because i happened to see them. not because i was looking to spend money. just saw something i wanted and figured i'd buy it.
please don't change the FS forum. as it is everything's so segregated that you have to have 5 windows open just to surf the site completely
i've bought more than a few items just because i happened to see them. not because i was looking to spend money. just saw something i wanted and figured i'd buy it.
please don't change the FS forum. as it is everything's so segregated that you have to have 5 windows open just to surf the site completely
I agree with poolplayer2093 but have a slight change in mind. The for sale section is a great open marketplace. I've bought more things lately from there than online billiards stores. If it gets categorized it won't have that cool rummage sale/ open classifieds feeling to it any longer. It's easily searched in most cases. Maybe how people post their adds could be standardized a bit for searching or indexing the data for sorting. If there was a way to classify the adds a bit or in multiple categories that would be nice, then it would be up to AZer's to sort the data for what they want without changing the general experience. I think the bumping system works great as long as people aren't constantly bumping. It seems fair to equalize the sales for all involved big and small, dealer and non-dealer. If there's a lot to look at like there usually is in the for sale section it's going to be hard to make it easy to see everyone's product on the front page with any categorization system. I think having some indexing for sorting could be a good answer. I know I've wanted to sort the data there when I was looking for something specific but I don't want the default to be sorted by anything but latest date of thread entry. Just my take on this.
i actually like the for sale forum as is.. and if our threads get pushed back fast, all the merrier, just shows the no. of ppl here buying/selling stuff. it is also easier for sellers who have lots of things to sell to group all items under 1 thread, and for the buyers to see all the items available and maybe negotiate for a package deal.
if there really must be a segregation, then i think the max would have to be 3 categories, similar to Benfica's idea i.e.
> Custom cues, shafts and cases
> Production cues, shafts and cases
> All other pool related stuff, ie. tables, table parts, tips, wraps, shaft cleaners, aiming kits, joint caps, pool related print and non print materials, clothing, key chains, hats etc.
Dealers having a sticky is also a great idea.
if there really must be a segregation, then i think the max would have to be 3 categories, similar to Benfica's idea i.e.
> Custom cues, shafts and cases
> Production cues, shafts and cases
> All other pool related stuff, ie. tables, table parts, tips, wraps, shaft cleaners, aiming kits, joint caps, pool related print and non print materials, clothing, key chains, hats etc.
Dealers having a sticky is also a great idea.
I actually like this idea a lot. 3 sections
custom cues
production cues
All other stuff
This would substantially de-clutter the forum without spreading it too thin by having too many sub-categories.
Sticky is good for dealers but even I wouldn't mind taking it one step further and having a dealer sub-forum. I can't imagine that anything more than 4 sub-forums would prove useful.
You could always keep it to 3 with
Cues for sale forum
Dealers forum
All other stuff forum
This way the dealers have their place free and clear. All cues can be found in one primary location and there would be only one other option for all other items for sale. This way all the impulse buyers or guys who like to sift and buy on a whim aren't expected to click through 5 or 6 sub-categories.
Why not keep it the way it is, but add an option to view posts by topic (Cue, case)
I'm in favor of keeping the current interface -- I like stumbling across things I didn't know I wanted to buy. In that case, we are seeing ALL posts from any topic.
I'm also in favor of allowing the user to view threads with posts from a certain topic (like cues).
It really shouldn't be this hard to implement, you think?
I'm in favor of keeping the current interface -- I like stumbling across things I didn't know I wanted to buy. In that case, we are seeing ALL posts from any topic.
I'm also in favor of allowing the user to view threads with posts from a certain topic (like cues).
It really shouldn't be this hard to implement, you think?