Bob, that is very similar to the way I practice. I start out breaking 3 ball and play 5 ahead. If I win, I go to 4 ball. If the ghost wins, I drop back down to the previous number of balls. It's a great way to practice, IMO.
Can you beat the 9-ball ghost in a race to 10 or more?
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Bob, that is very similar to the way I practice. I start out breaking 3 ball and play 5 ahead. If I win, I go to 4 ball. If the ghost wins, I drop back down to the previous number of balls. It's a great way to practice, IMO.
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Even more BS than this are the 'packages' threads, where virtually everyone has put a 10 pack together, apparently.
Not yet, but this is a huge goal of mine. It seems that being able to beat the ghost puts one as a player that can at least hang with most others, and from the poll, in a fairly good minority. I have beat the 7 ball ghost, but never the 9. Right now work and my responsibilities as a husband and father simply take up too much time to allow me to commit the time to the table I need to get there. None the less, for as much as I like pool, those things are much more rewarding in the grand scheme of things. Someday I do hope to consistently beat the ghost.
It would be different, I would suspect. I agree with woof biscuit that the % of respondents stating they can beat the ghost on the 9 footer is just unbelievable to me. Bartram is right to be suspicious, imo. Either that, or the AZB community is just full of champions.
Somebody put up a public poll, then let's see who we can take to task...just a friendly challenge of course.
Like others have said, I don't want to know other people's games, but beating the 9 ball ghost on a diamond pro 9 footer is a tall task...
If the goal is strong enough, its a great way to put pressure on yourself if you are playing alone. I play the ghost a couple of times a week for a at least a couple of hours each time. I don't believe there is a better way to practice by yourself if you're a B player or better. Just my opinion.
I'm really curious about the public poll w/diamond pro am. I'll start it and vote. :grin-square:
Not to sidetrack the thread, but I'm curious if anyone out there agrees that most B players should be able to at least beat the ghost somewhere between occassionally to often on average equipment as the OP stated?
Probably not most of the time though.
Personally I would think any A player would have the best of it most of the time.
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Probably not most of the time though.
Personally I would think any A player would have the best of it most of the time.
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I guess if we wanted to nail down a hard line that definese the difference between A and B, an A beats the ghost in 9 ball over a long race, a B only does it in short races but probably not over the course of 20 or 50 or 100 racks.
I hope your definition of B is basically correct cuz otherwise I'm a C player and that's a depressing thought :/
All of the B players that I know would fall into the rarely or never categories. The very strongest B players MAY fall into the sometimes category. If you're beating the ghost with any frequency, you're a damn good player.
I haven't played much in the last couple of years, but when I practiced daily, I played the ghost every day a race to 30. My best win was 30-14.
I began the ghost practice by adding or removing balls depending on if I ran the table or missed. I started at running 5 balls regularly and quickly got up to beating the 9 ball ghost. At the end I was jumping between 10-11 balls. 10 is tough, 11 is really hard (the spreads sucked)
I began the ghost practice by adding or removing balls depending on if I ran the table or missed. I started at running 5 balls regularly and quickly got up to beating the 9 ball ghost. At the end I was jumping between 10-11 balls. 10 is tough, 11 is really hard (the spreads sucked)
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Drills still do more for me than playing the ghost, but it is a valuable tool, and it is a great way to create pressure because anytime I get close.
Are you referring to playing the ghost on a 9' diamond. I would think most b players would be able to best the ghost on a standar 8' home table with 5" pockets
I would play the ghost even in 6ball, i would need 3-4 games on the wire going to 11 playing 9ball and still dont know if i would win.
I'd love to see people post themselves in a race to 7 on video. Of course most will only post their successes or not say how many attempts it really took. None the less, if you can do it once, that says something about your ability.
In fact, it might be fun to have a 9 ball ghost club. Anyone that beats the ghost on video gets their name and video posts in a pinned thread. That would give a goal for lesser players to shoot for, and a realistic view of how many on here can really do it.
In fact, it might be fun to have a 9 ball ghost club. Anyone that beats the ghost on video gets their name and video posts in a pinned thread. That would give a goal for lesser players to shoot for, and a realistic view of how many on here can really do it.
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We have a great bar box player here in Phoenix whom I personally watched run 15 racks of 9 ball on a Valley table at Pappy's in 2005. I don't like to mention someone's name without their permission... but his initials are DH for those who know him. Later that same afternoon he moved down to another table and did it again.
We have a great bar box player here in Phoenix whom I personally watched run 15 racks of 9 ball on a Valley table at Pappy's in 2005. I don't like to mention someone's name without their permission... but his initials are DH for those who know him. Later that same afternoon he moved down to another table and did it again.
For the record, my "rarely" vote was
A) when I was very practiced up
and
B) was when I was doing it for "free" free stroking with no real pressure.
You put a person into the box against the ghost under these conditions for the cash and there are not many people who are going to like it, including myself.
My rarely if I am shooting 8 hours a day, well practiced in Vegas mode is probably still no better then 1 in 10 and it is "practice" ghost play, not under the gun with a rail watching and cash on the line.
You shoot well Jason but I would have bet against you all day long against the 9-ball ghost on the table indicated under the rules indicated. Part of the problem with playing the ghost is there is no chance for a safety, if yoiu have a tied up ball on the rail you are "forced" to go for a breakout or a combo or a bank and that forced offense pushes most people into a place they are more apt to miss.
There are "maybe" 5 or so players in the entire of Calgary I would not have bet against on this when I was there. Edwin for sure would beat this, PJ if he is playing, Mike Abou when he is playing, Lloyd A if he practiced for it, maybe Kevin O... I might be missing someone but there are not many more that are truly a favorite against the ghost in 9-ball on a 9-foot diamond for the cash.