So that's why they don't taste as good!
Chalk gate at the open !!!!
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Do you have a link to this?
The same way everyone else did - by hoping he didn’t get a skid at a critical moment of a match.
Beyond that, I asked Skip Nemecek, Tweeten's President, about the flag. He said that Tweeten was making Masters with and without the flag on the wrapper at the same time. I think "pre-flag" is not a useful idea.
You have to realize there is a small amount of unobtainium in the preflag stuff that isn't in the stuff with the flag.
I didn't believe for a minute that the gross of flag master I bought was as good as the preflag but sometimes you have to make do!
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I would have said that chalking over the table makes tables even dirtier than overchalking does.
Agree, its not how much but where its done. Off-table is no issue, over the table is.
So I have a unique problem. Most players switch their cue to the opposite hand and chalk with their playing hand. I play left handed. I eat left handed and I write and draw left handed. Almost everything else I do right handed. I throw a ball, bowl, bat, do just about everything right handed. So I chalk right handed. I always wondered why other people's hands don't get as chalked up messy as mine until I was watching someone who played right handed set their cue in the opposite hand and chalk with their right hand. I thought that was so weird.
Then I realized I was the odd duck, but it makes for a messy hand and table, it's unavoidable. It's also why I never needed a glove, I was constantly chalking my fingers.
Flakeandrun
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Don't think this has ever been an issue for anyone (unless they are missing digits), or something that anyone has ever committed energy to think about. You have just achieved a world first! I am functionally ambidextrous, and usually do things in the way I have learned through observation (in some cases, I will alter this according to who I deem worthy of copying). I fail to see how whichever configuration used, there would be more mess than the other (unless your opposite hand has fine motor skills of a first-grader).
I actually don't understand how there would be any difference in "mess" - I am annoyed that I have now spent an inordinate amount of time considering this
Cord
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Sorry, Flake, but for many of us who are not ambidextrous, this is often the case. I can switch hands to weld, but not for much else. If I try an off-hand pool shot, it had better be hanging in a pocket and less than two diamonds away.
Well think a little harder. When you chalk and any excess gets onto your hands, if you're holding the cue with that hand, it will remain stationary. If that's your bridge hand, the shaft will be sliding against your hand and the hand will be rubbing against the table. So there's a greater likelihood of the chalk getting on the cloth and on your cue...Don't think this has ever been an issue for anyone (unless they are missing digits), or something that anyone has ever committed energy to think about. You have just achieved a world first! I am functionally ambidextrous, and usually do things in the way I have learned through observation (in some cases, I will alter this according to who I deem worthy of copying). I fail to see how whichever configuration used, there would be more mess than the other (unless your opposite hand has fine motor skills of a first-grader).
I actually don't understand how there would be any difference in "mess" - I am annoyed that I have now spent an inordinate amount of time considering this
If I ever stop wearing a glove again, I'll take a picture of my hand after a session to show you the difference.
You're ambidextrous. Very cool.
I would give my right arm to be ambidextrous.
Flakeandrun
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I am still trying to figure out how there would be any difference in mess or chalk usage relative to the hand used. I do also realize my previous message maybe came across a little spicier than intended re-reading. Was meant to air on the comical side, not the abrasive one.
If you watch old videos on Accu-Stats, for example, you will see it was a common technique for players to chalk with their bridge hand, while holding their cue, in an almost grinding motion. Here is a screenshot of Earl doing that. That type of technique can easily leave lots of chalk on your hand, some of which easily gets transferred to the table.
If you paint the tip like most modern players do, I don’t think it makes a ton of difference which hand you use (unless you are really clumsy)
Flakeandrun
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Ahhhhh, I understand now. There are a couple of players who do this at my local, and there is a fair bit of banter around the topic. I even gave a good friend a piece of chalk, and offered to teach him how to use itIf you watch old videos on Accu-Stats, for example, you will see it was a common technique for players to chalk with their bridge hand, while holding their cue, in an almost grinding motion. Here is a screenshot of Earl doing that. That type of technique can easily leave lots of chalk on your hand, some of which easily gets transferred to the table.
If you paint the tip like most modern players do, I don’t think it makes a ton of difference which hand you use (unless you are really clumsy)
Interestingly, they are both players who studied and picked up the game in the US before coming back to China. Most players here opt for using the corners in the fashion of a snooker player. My advice would be, chalk less maniacally! Also, I just made myself laugh. Apparently my subconscious wit is working faster than my conscious mind sat here in the office on a Friday afternoon lol
What about blowing the excess chalk off the tip after chalking, like this shot of my fellow Canadian Cliff Thorburn during the first 147 at the Crucible? I believe it was because the old chalk in the 60s and 70s was more powdery.
I still see old pool and snooker players in Canada doing this.
I think it comes down to how the player applies the chalk and if they do it over the table or not. Do they wipe any excess off their hands (I do see that sometimes between shots).
Then it comes down to how and where the player strikes the cue ball. A good solid stroke is rewarded. A careless one could lead to a miscue or skid.
All this may be equally responsible for miscues and skids, maybe not so much the chalk being used. The great players of my era rarely had a miscue or a skid. And they were using Master chalk. And often there was talc powder and chalk dust all over the table and rails! I can remember playing where I wiped down the rails myself when it was my turn. No big deal, except when my opponent set the chalk face down.
In the PI I've seen money matches on a really dirty table. They never miscue/skid either and all varieties of chalk are being used in different rooms. The Pinoys don't quibble about stuff like this. Just put the money up and let's go. Playing on the pristine tables we have here is like child's play for them.
Then it comes down to how and where the player strikes the cue ball. A good solid stroke is rewarded. A careless one could lead to a miscue or skid.
All this may be equally responsible for miscues and skids, maybe not so much the chalk being used. The great players of my era rarely had a miscue or a skid. And they were using Master chalk. And often there was talc powder and chalk dust all over the table and rails! I can remember playing where I wiped down the rails myself when it was my turn. No big deal, except when my opponent set the chalk face down.
In the PI I've seen money matches on a really dirty table. They never miscue/skid either and all varieties of chalk are being used in different rooms. The Pinoys don't quibble about stuff like this. Just put the money up and let's go. Playing on the pristine tables we have here is like child's play for them.
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