Charlie Williams named as Captain Team USA Mosconi Cup!

This year might just be the first year that a USA Mosconi Cup team member gets booed and not by the Euro fans, bythe USA fans. That would really send a message to CW.
 
No one is saying what is said here is gospel.

However, when it comes to the Mosconi Cup in this country this forum does represent the hardcore pool aficionados that have more than a passing interest in the event. The rest of pooldom in the USA wouldn't recognize the names on the teams. They know Minnesota Fats, Jeanette Lee (they probably don't even know her real name and just know of "The Black Widow"), Willie Mosconi, and maybe Efren and Earl. That's it.

What you see reflected here are the opinions of those knowledgeable about the sport. They are the ones that log on and later on go to their local rooms where people not inclined to hash things out on the internet ask them, "So what's going on?" Or, they just go ahead and share the latest news. And that, my dear gospel loving friend, is what most folks would recognize as the opinion leaders in any given community.

So no, it ain't gospel. But if you're looking for disciples to spread the good word amongst pool players in this country, this might be a good place to look. Or maybe if you just wanted an accurate read from the only group of pool players in the US who even know what the Mosconi Cup is...

Lou Figueroa

Lou
I am honored to be your 'dear gospel friend'.

I was not disrespecting either you are the many intelligent and knowledgeable posters who are regulars on this forum. But the fact remains that they are but a minority of the pool watching public.

I know many 100s, even 1000s of people who will be avidly watching every ball in the Mosconi Cup who have never dreamed of logging on to this site.

So I am pleased to read the musings of the great and good who do patronize AZ, but they are but a blip on the radar (me included)
 
You gotta get convicted to be a sex offender. Until then he's just another dude with bad game or something like that.

Tell that to the kids the got molested by Jerry Sandusky at Penn State..... With it being kids at Penn State its much sicker but what Charlie has done is no less right. Sh!it ain't cool hubs......
 
Tell that to the kids the got molested by Jerry Sandusky at Penn State..... With it being kids at Penn State its much sicker but what Charlie has done is no less right. Sh!it ain't cool hubs......

True I shouldn't have even went down that road. I'm not on a pool forum to discuss him as a human being. I just like Charlie the player.
 
True I shouldn't have even went down that road. I'm not on a pool forum to discuss him as a human being. I just like Charlie the player.

I was just getting ready to edit my post and say just that... I think its funny when you stand up for Charlie the player but as a person he's a douche....
 
You find me one sport whee the coach could suit up and bust the players ass.

In most cases, the Coach is usually older than his players so, he can't just suit up and play them. With that said, coaches are usually chosen because they were either great players and/ or have great knowledge that they can pass along to the players. Charlie has neither. He should be in his prime and still can't beat or teach anything to the players he will be "coaching". Sounds like politics to me.
 
Lou
I am honored to be your 'dear gospel friend'.

I was not disrespecting either you are the many intelligent and knowledgeable posters who are regulars on this forum. But the fact remains that they are but a minority of the pool watching public.

I know many 100s, even 1000s of people who will be avidly watching every ball in the Mosconi Cup who have never dreamed of logging on to this site.

So I am pleased to read the musings of the great and good who do patronize AZ, but they are but a blip on the radar (me included)


Yes, they are the minority of the viewing public because *no one is watching the Mocsconi Cup in this country except us.* If Matchroom had even a passing interest in growing the fan base here, they wouldn't have booted the call on the captain's slot this year so badly. So you and your lads have good time and enjoy -- if anyone here cared in the first place, they certainly care less now with CW as the USA captain.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Well, regardless of the captain selection, I think most, if not all, can agree that the Mosconi Cup is the best pool show on the face of the earth, bar none.

You want to know something? Charlie, et al., don't give a damn what AzBilliards' forum members think; in fact, it is my opinion that some of Charlie and his entourage thumb their nose at our community here. They post on this forum only when it benefits them.

People wonder why the majority of the American pool culture condemns pro players? Well, the pro players in control, pulling all the puppet strings of industry member sponsors, want to gobble up all the funds for themselves. They go out of their way to *not* afford others an opportunity to compete, allowing themselves to get fat while others starve. They move real good, I tell you.

I said it before on this forum, and I'll say it again. The existing lot of American pro players is dwindling. The reality has finally come to fruition that I wrote about several years ago that more and more pro events will be held overseas.

The league system and amateur pool is where it's at in America today, and that's okay by me. I gave up on pro pool in the States a long time ago, after the BCA abandoned the pro players with its BCA rules changing willy-nilly behind a closed curtain to accomodate industry member favorites. Shouldn't there be a level playing field with all players being treated equally? I don't like the fact that our BCA helps a player from Europe attend an event in China. I don't care how you slice it; that sucks a big weenie. And I don't even want to get started on my thoughts about the so-called "world pool organization."

That said, let's not shoot down the Mosconi Cup and Matchroom. They're the best thing happening for pool today. Where else can a select few players get a free payday, win or lose? And what other pool event brings on so much excitement?

I may not feel comfortable rooting for the hometeam this year, but I will always root for Matchroom and the Mosconi Cup, so let's get ready to rumble. :cool:

Matchroom Sport, all the way.
Matchroom Sport, all the way.

Matchroom Sport, ALL THE WAY!
Thank you, Mr. Hearn! :smile:
 
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Lou

I know many 100s, even 1000s of people who will be avidly watching every ball in the Mosconi Cup who have never dreamed of logging on to this site.

So I am pleased to read the musings of the great and good who do patronize AZ, but they are but a blip on the radar (me included)

Do these 100's and 1000's of Mosconi Cup viewers live here in the US?

How do they watch the Mosconi Cup? Streaming online? 1000's of people who will watch pool on their computer and they don't even know about AZBilliards?
 
Do these 100's and 1000's of Mosconi Cup viewers live here in the US?

How do they watch the Mosconi Cup? Streaming online? 1000's of people who will watch pool on their computer and they don't even know about AZBilliards?

That's an excellent question...when I lived in the UK I used to watch it live (almost live) on SKY Sports. I believe SKY has a relationship with FOX/FX, but I'm not holding my breath for simulcasting.

As far as Charlie Williams goes, I'm not sure how I feel about it (or the ABP, for that matter). I personally want to see one of our HOF players as coach...I think it should be a requirement/perk. But who gets to say so? Seems a shame that some blatant nepotism was allowed to let the ABP half-way hijack the Mosconi Cup; I can appreciate why they would want to, but I'd like to hope that no one cabal outside Matchroom should be able to worm their way into some sort of monopoly. Seems like we may be in for a long succession of the same small group dictating who may or may not play on future teams.
 
No question, the ABP needs a public affairs person to smooth out the rough edges, but if there was ever a person who needed a public affairs intervention in this pool world, it would be Charlie Williams.

There are some who think his contributions to pool outweigh his alleged indiscretion as well as his lack of charisma when dealing with the public.

Sadly, though, Charlie Williams laughs all the way to the bank as long as industry members continue to patronize him. Again, it is my belief he does not give a hill of beans what this forum thinks about him, other than to read his press releases about the company he runs.
 
No question, the ABP needs a public affairs person to smooth out the rough edges, but if there was ever a person who needed a public affairs intervention in this pool world, it would be Charlie Williams.

There are some who think his contributions to pool outweigh his alleged indiscretion as well as his lack of charisma when dealing with the public.

Sadly, though, Charlie Williams laughs all the way to the bank as long as industry members continue to patronize him. Again, it is my belief he does not give a hill of beans what this forum thinks about him, other than to read his press releases about the company he runs.

It is the whole ABP issue that saddens me regarding CW being the captain. It has become a clique, tho I don't know who is the real ringleader, JA or CW. The fact that JA recently joined Dragon, in the midst of all the ABP issues with the US Open, and now this.

If it looks like a duck...
 
It is the whole ABP issue that saddens me regarding CW being the captain. It has become a clique, tho I don't know who is the real ringleader, JA or CW. The fact that JA recently joined Dragon, in the midst of all the ABP issues with the US Open, and now this.

If it looks like a duck...

JA has always treated me with the utmost respect, and I admire his family values. That said, Johnny always knows who butters his bread, and as such, he guards it like a pit bull. :D
 
It is the whole ABP issue that saddens me regarding CW being the captain. It has become a clique, tho I don't know who is the real ringleader, JA or CW. The fact that JA recently joined Dragon, in the midst of all the ABP issues with the US Open, and now this.

If it looks like a duck...

Quack Quack... I have thought CW has been posting these ABP drive by posts here for a while, maybe I'm wrong but it looks like his posting style to his DP news to me.
 
I wouldn't go as far as rooting for Team Europe.
I am more than a little disappointed in the decision for Captain tho.
I always liked Nicky and think other than him, there were many more obvious choices.

I guess that in the spirit of giving everyone the benefit of doubt and a chance, it is what it is and isn't going to change.

Someone mentioned that the APB got their man a pay check and considering
Charlies involvement with them, I can't help but think there was a little underhandedness in this.


But then, considering the APBs track record thus far, Surprise, Surprise.

The truth of the matter is that this did not happen.
Matchroom considered a number of contenders for the position of non playing captain.
It is not a coaching position so all the arguments on here about coaching ability are superfluous.
What the teams need is a motivator and in the end only two names were left on the list.
The three surviving US team players from last year were then asked to choose one of them as their captain and that is how Charlie got the job.

The notion that Johnny Archer and Shawn Putnam leaned on Barry Hearn or Matchroom is laughable.
These players know how futile that would have been - they would have been enjoying the comforts of home while the Mosconi Cup was happening.
At least the ABP have not tried punching above their weight on this one.

So there you have it - no conspiracy, no muscle flexing. It cannot be a surprise that two of the three players would choose their manager to be with them.

All I wait to hear now is a press release from the US Mosconi Cup Team Lawyer
 
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