Chin off the cue
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My personal opinion is that if you can get low enough to have the cue ball and the object ball in the line of sight you will not have to move your eyes as much when you need to.
If the pocket is also in the line of sight this makes the shot routine for me. If the pocket is not then the time for me to organize the shot is when I'm standing up before getting down. Then I use my minds eye to find the pocket.
I find that for shots that do not require for me to do much with the cue ball then the open bridge is my preference. This allows me to use it as a gun sight and there is less friction from my fingers so that I can be more precise in positioning the cue ball.
If the pocket is also in the line of sight this makes the shot routine for me. If the pocket is not then the time for me to organize the shot is when I'm standing up before getting down. Then I use my minds eye to find the pocket.
I find that for shots that do not require for me to do much with the cue ball then the open bridge is my preference. This allows me to use it as a gun sight and there is less friction from my fingers so that I can be more precise in positioning the cue ball.
Blackjack said:Here is a picture of grandfather (he died shortly after this photo was taken in 1987)...
He stood up straight just like Fats also.
IIRC, Jimmy Caras, Cowboy Jimmy Moore, and Eddie Taylor had the same style.
cool pic thanks, I love old people-they are so smart and experienced, i awalys take time to listen to them,
I go real low. Sometimes my chin touches, other times its a couple inches away...
I do it for aiming purposes. I can sight better (like a gun) if I am right over the shaft. This game requires the most accurate precision to run out. So I go as low as I can to get more accurate...
I wish I could go higher to give my back a rest. I know in years to come this will be an issue. I just can't get myself to relearn aiming from an upright position. I already know what I know and when I stand up, I feel lost. Some shots are just out of my skill level while standing up...
Surely, if I learned this way, I could do it cause I've seen many top level players do it...
For now, I am staying low cause thats what I know... and I think everybody aims better low (think guns again)
I do it for aiming purposes. I can sight better (like a gun) if I am right over the shaft. This game requires the most accurate precision to run out. So I go as low as I can to get more accurate...
I wish I could go higher to give my back a rest. I know in years to come this will be an issue. I just can't get myself to relearn aiming from an upright position. I already know what I know and when I stand up, I feel lost. Some shots are just out of my skill level while standing up...
Surely, if I learned this way, I could do it cause I've seen many top level players do it...
For now, I am staying low cause thats what I know... and I think everybody aims better low (think guns again)
I Can't Do A 'Chin Up'..... anymore
How far my chin is from my cue was dependant on upon how far my stomach was from my feet.
The closer my stomach got to my feet, the farther away my chin got from my cue.
Doug
( now, one of my chins touches my CHEST )
How far my chin is from my cue was dependant on upon how far my stomach was from my feet.
The closer my stomach got to my feet, the farther away my chin got from my cue.
Doug
( now, one of my chins touches my CHEST )
I can relate. I was playing around with this today, before reading this thread. I was trying to get my head as low as I could. I felt a little more confident with aiming, but it was just too uncomfortable. I tried with my chin on the stick.....couldn't be done. I typically have my chin 3"-4" about the stick. I played in a tournament with a guy last night that probably stood about 6'4". He could put his chin to the stick, but his stance was with his feet about 6' apart....very awkard looking, but seems to work for him.Smorgass Bored said:How far my chin is from my cue was dependant on upon how far my stomach was from my feet.
The closer my stomach got to my feet, the farther away my chin got from my cue.
Doug
( now, one of my chins touches my CHEST )
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Scott Lee said:
Here's how I see it. First of all comfort and consistency is what's most important. I see trade offs although. Of course with good training and practice, the trade offs can be overcome and is why a comfortable, consistant and solid stance is paramount to all else assuming
With your chin in the cue or very close you have a better perspective on tip placement plus you'll have a consistent anchor point for head placement shooting down the cue like a rifle.
Standing taller you have a better perspective on the shot angle as well as a better view of more if not all of the table, but exact tip placement is harder to see due to the parallax effect.
Example
I love watching matches where the camera is above and in the center of the table. A perfect vantage point to see all the angles but a terrible vantage point to see how the player is hitting the CB.
Don't ask me why this comes to mind. Maybe the pot from back in the 60's.
I remember a science show with Carl Sagan once upon a time where he talked about the possibility of a 4th or 5th dimension.
He equated the possibility with hypothetical people who lived in a 2 dimensional world pondering the possibility of a 3 dimensional world.
He dramatized it by placing an apple on a white piece of paper describing it as a 3 dimensional object. He said of course the people who live in 2 dimensional land see it this way ......... and he took the apple, dabbed it on an ink blotter, and made a stamp image of its base on the white paper. He said all they can see is this shape because they are not looking at it from its full dimension. He said they walk all around it without seeing it since they are viewing from a different perspective.
Anyway, I think pool is played in a parallel plane high and low of 2.25 inches. Viewing it as close to parallel to that plane as possible offers a better perspective for me.
Now that was deep, but more fun than just saying I get low on the cue .....
I remember a science show with Carl Sagan once upon a time where he talked about the possibility of a 4th or 5th dimension.
He equated the possibility with hypothetical people who lived in a 2 dimensional world pondering the possibility of a 3 dimensional world.
He dramatized it by placing an apple on a white piece of paper describing it as a 3 dimensional object. He said of course the people who live in 2 dimensional land see it this way ......... and he took the apple, dabbed it on an ink blotter, and made a stamp image of its base on the white paper. He said all they can see is this shape because they are not looking at it from its full dimension. He said they walk all around it without seeing it since they are viewing from a different perspective.
Anyway, I think pool is played in a parallel plane high and low of 2.25 inches. Viewing it as close to parallel to that plane as possible offers a better perspective for me.
Now that was deep, but more fun than just saying I get low on the cue .....
3andstop said:Don't ask me why this comes to mind. Maybe the pot from back in the 60's.
I remember a science show with Carl Sagan once upon a time where he talked about the possibility of a 4th or 5th dimension.
He equated the possibility with hypothetical people who lived in a 2 dimensional world pondering the possibility of a 3 dimensional world.
He dramatized it by placing an apple on a white piece of paper describing it as a 3 dimensional object. He said of course the people who live in 2 dimensional land see it this way ......... and he took the apple, dabbed it on an ink blotter, and made a stamp image of its base on the white paper. He said all they can see is this shape because they are not looking at it from its full dimension. He said they walk all around it without seeing it since they are viewing from a different perspective.
Anyway, I think pool is played in a parallel plane high and low of 2.25 inches. Viewing it as close to parallel to that plane as possible offers a better perspective for me.
Now that was deep, but more fun than just saying I get low on the cue .....
Dude....quit Bogarting and pass that around
My chin is about 1mm away from my cue.
I just found out why...
I tried to see if I could touch my chin to my cue. The reason why I can't is because my elbow on my stroke arm won't go much higher past the level of my back. I can't touch my elbows together either.
I tried to see if I could touch my chin to my cue. The reason why I can't is because my elbow on my stroke arm won't go much higher past the level of my back. I can't touch my elbows together either.
WesleyW said:
Not to defend Scott here, but I think you are making the all too common
mistake of thinking that what works best for you, is best for everybody.
FWIW it is NOT true that one can see the aim point any better
by being down lower. If you do, that would indicate you have a flaw
in your alignment.
Of course, I can't be sure without seeing you play, but that would
be my best guess.
Perhaps you should take a lesson from Scott so he could observe
and advise.
SDale