CJ Wiley

u12armresl

One Pocket back cutter
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He has for years said he has a system that he is accepting offers for to beat Vegas, Macau, etc. out of everything. Every interview "the offer isn't big enough yet." I don't think it would be the Ivey system of card imperfections, but who knows. He can't turn down an interview, and everything is a mystery on how and why. Casino hosts don't know anything about his upfront parking space in every casino, or him having his jets taken away.
 

Quesports

AzB Silver Member
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Maybe, but he sure was a great player.
He was hustling. Which means trying to survive by any means possible. That could include defrauding folks but that is what hustling really is.

When you’re living on the streets it’s also known as street smarts. Those you mostly attain by the other university. The school of hard knocks..

I give him credit for being called upon to do that show no matter how he got there!!
 

jay helfert

Shoot Pool, not people
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He has for years said he has a system that he is accepting offers for to beat Vegas, Macau, etc. out of everything. Every interview "the offer isn't big enough yet." I don't think it would be the Ivey system of card imperfections, but who knows. He can't turn down an interview, and everything is a mystery on how and why. Casino hosts don't know anything about his upfront parking space in every casino, or him having his jets taken away.
The guy is a total fraud! All BS
 

jay helfert

Shoot Pool, not people
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I miss Chris's and playing straight pool with Joe Gold at Marie's Golden Cue.

Museums are great and restaurants are as well. It's really too bad it's such a mess otherwise...
Played Joe, George Michaels and Tom Spencer all in one day at Chris'. $5 9-Ball! Spencer was by far the best of the three. He made me quit.
 

Quesports

AzB Silver Member
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Played Joe, George Michaels and Tom Spencer all in one day at Chris'. $5 9-Ball! Spencer was by far the best of the three. He made me quit.
But Joe was probably the most fun! He’s got some great hustling stories from the 70’s. Houston was a magnate for hustlers then!
 

mnorwood

Moon
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From the mid to late 2000's this forum had quite a few pros and money players gracing us with their experience and wisdom, CJ being one of them. However, the intolerable presence of key board warrior, know it all gamma males was too much for them to withstand. Here's hoping that the pendulum can swing back in the direction of showing some level of respect for known champion level players so that they can frequent the board once more.
 

BasementDweller

AzB Silver Member
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From the mid to late 2000's this forum had quite a few pros and money players gracing us with their experience and wisdom, CJ being one of them. However, the intolerable presence of key board warrior, know it all gamma males was too much for them to withstand. Here's hoping that the pendulum can swing back in the direction of showing some level of respect for known champion level players so that they can frequent the board once more.
That's what social media is for. There you can block anybody that you wish.

What I love about AZ is everybody, regardless of name or stature, has to defend their positions with words not likes. Some people can't handle that. You can find them elsewhere.

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And I follow CJ on FB and he's really interesting. So I have nothing against him.
 
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jay helfert

Shoot Pool, not people
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But Joe was probably the most fun! He’s got some great hustling stories from the 70’s. Houston was a magnate for hustlers then!
I met Joe Gold in Chicago. Never knew that he moved to Houston or even spent time on the road for that matter. True about Houston. LeCue was one of the major poolrooms of that era, mostly because of Greg Stevens challenging the world in there. There were always six to ten top hustlers hanging around LeCue. I stopped in there on two occasions. First time I just watched the action and kept quiet and the second time was when my brother was doing his Internship at Ben Taub Medical Center there. I was playing a lot better by then and got into a game with Steve Gumphrey's. I made a game out of it, but Steve shot a little too straight and relieved me of $100 at ten a game. We remained friends ever since until his untimely death.
 

Island Drive

Otto/Dads College Roommate/Cleveland Browns
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He was hustling. Which means trying to survive by any means possible. That could include defrauding folks but that is what hustling really is.

When you’re living on the streets it’s also known as street smarts. Those you mostly attain by the other university. The school of hard knocks..

I give him credit for being called upon to do that show no matter how he got there!!
Gold/Spencer/Myself became combatant friends during the late sixties. We always played 14.1 in SIU Carbondale IL.
 

Quesports

AzB Silver Member
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Gold/Spencer/Myself became combatant friends during the late sixties. We always played 14.1 in SIU Carbondale IL.
In that era straight pool was the game, as you and I remember. The game of truth! I started playing in 66 in the same room that Hippie Jimmy grew up playing in. Had a shoeshine parlor in the front and a sign. No girls allowed. Smoke filled, and cigarette burns on all the rails. That was pool!

Times have changed and we got old!
 

Dave714

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
The Pittsburgh story was alot of stories rolled into one. If you heard all the stories you immediately noticed. CJ is a great story teller but unfortunately I've heard them all now. If Discovery picks this up for a second season I would be surprised.
 

lfigueroa

AzB Silver Member
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From the mid to late 2000's this forum had quite a few pros and money players gracing us with their experience and wisdom, CJ being one of them. However, the intolerable presence of key board warrior, know it all gamma males was too much for them to withstand. Here's hoping that the pendulum can swing back in the direction of showing some level of respect for known champion level players so that they can frequent the board once more.

The very few pros that would occasionally visit were just here to get their egos stroked.

Frankly, many of them do no know how they do what they do and when called on their superstitions and false theories by lowly but pretty smart posters here they got butt hurt and left. So they migrated to FB where they can block anyone who doesn't suck up.

If you have an idea you should be able to present and defend it on it's merits, not how many trophies you've collected.

Lou Figueroa
 
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