he just got offered 100 million bucks from rumble. i doubt he needs our help
Could Joe Rogan help with pool?
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he just got offered 100 million bucks from rumble. i doubt he needs our help
I just saw that. I wonder if it will turn out to be true.
Why would he switch when he's already getting the same where he is?
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Don't forget that Beth gambled with Benny Watts at two different times. And, the second time, when she beat him and his companions, it was a turning point in her development into a champion.
cuz where he is they're deleting his episodes
Wasn't that just a $5 a game match at speed chess?
Spotify doesn't believe in free speech, why wouldn't he tell them to pound sand?
Hopefully Rogan gives them the middle finger and moves on to a better platform.
The best thing Joe could ever do would be to take this offer and get away from those fascists that want to force their control through censorship. Censorship has been a core component of every fascist and dictator and violent political ideology in history and always ends up leading to somewhere very bad.
Update on the side show:
Spotify won't be 'silencing' Joe Rogan amid controversy: CEO
Spotify's CEO says the company will not be "silencing" Joe Rogan after a video compilation of him using the "n-word" surfaced, which prompted the podcast host to issue an apology.
I think long term the "drama" involving Rogan will be a net positive for him.
If he decides to take his power and interest in pool and help grow the game it would be cool. His choice of course.
Here's Rogan getting introduced to Fargo RatingsUpdate on the side show:
Spotify won't be 'silencing' Joe Rogan amid controversy: CEO
Spotify's CEO says the company will not be "silencing" Joe Rogan after a video compilation of him using the "n-word" surfaced, which prompted the podcast host to issue an apology.www.fox7austin.com
I think long term the "drama" involving Rogan will be a net positive for him.
If he decides to take his power and interest in pool and help grow the game it would be cool. His choice of course.
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Joe’s not a flavor of the month. He‘a been long established. He’s a brand not just a podcast. Spotify helps diversify him and it’s no surprise that people are going after him. It’s why he shut his forum down years ago. So it’s nothing new.
Billiards was discussed frequently in his old forum but it never gained significant traction and his forum was as big as it gets.
I don’t think he can save pool.
I will say this though. A strong central organization like what the UFC does for mma would certainly help.
I also don’t think pool is as dead as some make it out to be. It’s just not a part of major marketing like professional sports is.
He’s getting way more and Rumble is a joke. Spotify has demographics that don’t even exist on Rumble.
Joe’s not a flavor of the month. He‘a been long established. He’s a brand not just a podcast. Spotify helps diversify him and it’s no surprise that people are going after him. It’s why he shut his forum down years ago. So it’s nothing new.
Billiards was discussed frequently in his old forum but it never gained significant traction and his forum was as big as it gets.
I don’t think he can save pool.
I will say this though. A strong central organization like what the UFC does for mma would certainly help.
I also don’t think pool is as dead as some make it out to be. It’s just not a part of major marketing like professional sports is.
All they’ve done is remove the N word.
They stood by him and they should. Cancel culture isn’t the way to go.
Spotify has done the right thing here.
Joe’s not a far right alt source. He’s an objective thinker and Rumble is a horrible platform that would ultimately marginalize his voice.
The only people who see rumble as a respectable platform are people who are defined by politics and conspiracies. Joe would eat that place up. His followers would expect it.
Clearly the bandwagon crowd has no clue what Joe really stands for. They think he’s some anti liberal hero.
. Sorry, not even close.
But, if what Joe is saying is true, the N word was never used in an inappropriate way. And the race of the person saying the word is immaterial, the context is either appropriate, or it's not. To have the race of the person who utters the word, rather than the context the word is used in be what makes the difference, is racist by definition. Treating people differently solely because of their skin color is racist. Discriminating based solely on skin color is racist. Having double standards depending on the race involved is racist. Always.
Actually, they haven't really. They went to Joe and told him they didn't like some of his podcasts, and "through conversations with Joe he voluntarily agreed to remove them". This could easily be kind of like when you give your employee the option to resign instead of getting fired, you and they can say it was voluntary, but it really wasn't voluntary at all.
Also, Spotify isn't doing this out of principle, but rather because of what they gain from Joe, and what they will lose if they were to end up losing him. I have yet to see them say "we condemn censorship and won't be standing for it in principle ever against anyone". No, all they said is that "we aren't going to be doing anything". They aren't taking a stand on principle one way or the other, and in fact are intentionally avoiding doing that. All they have done is inform us of their current choice of action, not the reason for it.
Rest assured, they would censor Joe or anybody else for political reasons just like the rest of their side of the aisle does if it wouldn't prove too costly to them, but at this moment Joe is just too big and it would prove too costly and so they are aren't able to do it even though they would love to be able to.
Actually Joe is big time Bernie Sanders supporter and voter, and self describes as being very liberal. But, and these buts are key... Joe may be wrong on a lot of things, but he is an independent thinker who calls it the way he sees it, and he has some strong viewpoints that fall on the conservative side of the aisle as well. He doesn't rely on anyone else including a political party to tell him what he should believe and want, but instead he tries to determine those things for himself. He doesn't play political games, and isn't afraid to denounce BS regardless of which side it comes from, or to support good principles or actions or policies regardless of which side they come from. He believes that open conversation and debate that is not censored by anyone is at the end of the day the best for the nation, and the best way to learn, and the best way to find the best solutions to problems and issues.They think he’s some anti liberal hero.
I think hero is a bit strong of a word, but everyone from both sides of the aisle should fully support his principles regarding his approach to these matters, even if they don't always agree with the conclusions he ultimately reaches on certain issues, because those principles of approach (freedom of speech, free and open political debate without any kind of censorship, along with various other freedoms) are at their core what America was founded on and indeed are directly responsible for making it into by far the greatest country to have ever existed.
You’re all over the place here.
He wasn’t canceled or fired nor was his job threatened.
You’re upset that that the N word was removed with Joe’s approval.
Even in context and no malicious intent he shouldn’t have used the word.
The apes comment was out of line and he owned it. Way out of line.
Sorry you can’t have the N word on podcasts and news being said by white people. It’s a sad day for your definition of “censorship” but that’s the way it is. Hopefully you can continue to use that word in private and feel better.
For the record Spotify owns control of the content on their platform so it’s technically their content to control.
Some of you don’t have a clear understanding of what censorship really is.
You are arguing with the Black Savior.
He is a PC SJW super hero.
You may as well give up now.
You have already won the argument.
If you don't, all you will get in return from him is more idiotic babbling like Rain Man.
For as long as I have read your posts, you have always put down gambling in pool. That's fine, you certainly are entitled to your opinion. But both The Hustler and Color of Money had A LOT of gambling in them. Practically what they were about. And both of them gave pool a great boost.
You could have a movie exclusively about 'legitimate pool' and the world's greatest players in tournaments, certainly doable, a good script doesn't have to include gambling. But I don't see it as the negative that you apparently do. If anything gambling is more widespread and accepted than it was when those other movies were made.
What is needed is a good script, a good director, and star power. How about Tarantino or the Coen brothers? Would love to see what they could come up with, but I'm not sure the result would do any cleaning up of pool's image. But pretty sure it would increase interest.