Criticizing Gambling

I realize everyone has a right to their own opinion and this is a public forum but I am curious how the rest of you think about posting comments about how others gamble, when you don't.

In other words, if you don't gamble, how much value does your criticism have?

I'm not talking about the morality to gamble or not gamble. I'm talking about whether or not a person should even be entitled to make a comment about whether someone is a nit or making a comment about someone that they did something immoral in gambling with another person who was on their second day with no sleep etc.

Not sure if I am making sense or not.

Another different but similar example might be: I don't have much experience and seldom ever play straight pool and I don't think I have much right to make comments about a competent straight pool player, shooting the wrong shot.

Does any of this make any sense?

JoeyA

I have never murdered anyone but still feel free voicing my opinions on murderers.
 
I realize everyone has a right to their own opinion and this is a public forum but I am curious how the rest of you think about posting comments about how others gamble, when you don't.

In other words, if you don't gamble, how much value does your criticism have?

I'm not talking about the morality to gamble or not gamble. I'm talking about whether or not a person should even be entitled to make a comment about whether someone is a nit or making a comment about someone that they did something immoral in gambling with another person who was on their second day with no sleep etc.

Not sure if I am making sense or not.

Another different but similar example might be: I don't have much experience and seldom ever play straight pool and I don't think I have much right to make comments about a competent straight pool player, shooting the wrong shot.

Does any of this make any sense?

JoeyA

A nit doesn't gamble?
 
Odd duck?

Pretty sure there's a checkers forum just waiting for you cornchip. You are one odd duck.

You can count me as another "odd duck". Most of the people that I admire in my life and in history books were not very wealthy.

I'm thinking just now of a player I knew in the '80s. Not a very strong player, and he lost money to me and many others. But he supported the game and was a real gentleman. I respected him more than most players.
 
Hey, Smalltime, if you 'break' me for $500, it wouldn't change how I eat. 'Break' me for $5k and it still wouldn't change what I eat...I'd stop buying shoes, knives, guns, watches for a couple of months.

I feel sorry for you. You really think that playing a game and winning money makes you more of a man than someone else?

The measure of a man is what he does for those he values. I measure myself by the people who I have helped, by the people who call upon me for help when they need it. I measure myself by the people I have around me, those I know I can call upon if I ever need it...which I don't because I take care of myself.

The measure of a man is not taking feeling big because he causes an inconvenience in other people's lives.

While it isn't always evident on here, I try to live by words of Mark Twain:

“Keep away from people who try to belittle your ambitions. Small people always do that, but the really great make you feel that you, too, can become great.”

You are a fountain of nonsense. Thanks for confirming what I already know...quack quack.

You probably duck people better than Mayweather. Do you ever get off the porch and play? You got it or you don't son...
 
makes a lot of sense

I realize everyone has a right to their own opinion and this is a public forum but I am curious how the rest of you think about posting comments about how others gamble, when you don't.

In other words, if you don't gamble, how much value does your criticism have?

I'm not talking about the morality to gamble or not gamble. I'm talking about whether or not a person should even be entitled to make a comment about whether someone is a nit or making a comment about someone that they did something immoral in gambling with another person who was on their second day with no sleep etc.

Not sure if I am making sense or not.

Another different but similar example might be: I don't have much experience and seldom ever play straight pool and I don't think I have much right to make comments about a competent straight pool player, shooting the wrong shot.

Does any of this make any sense?

JoeyA

I think it makes a lot sense actually. As someone who doesn't gamble a lot I have identified the time and place that I will and recently I let loose of some cash to get a lesson I needed to learn. I looked at it as a necessary expense for my game.

Regardless of how you view gambling and whether you do it often there is no more clarity ever to be gotten into your own personal game when you are shooting over the fact that you have money on the line. Sometime amount is irrelevant.

The person that can do that has cohones, if he can be a gentleman about it, he has integrity beyond his wallet. That is something you can't buy. You have to have it and someone berating how someone else gambles that doesn't really does do much for me. Like I said I know when and where and why I am willing to gamble and there are people out there I wouldn't play if they paid me. I will gladly quit on someone who starts acting the asshole down on the money or not, because life is short and who I spend my time with is more important to me. I don't deal with people who have issues playing pool. Ugly acting people have no place in my life. My theory is to tell these folks....Poof..be gone! There are better things to do.
 
My gambling in the pool room is very rare these days and mostly limited to ring games. I've found that I much prefer laying a friendly wager at the racetrack. The pari-mutuel teller always cashes my tickets without delay and without any mouth. And the women there are easier on the eyes than the denizens of the pool hall. Ovserve:

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Case closed gentlemen...
 
Nice Examples!

My gambling in the pool room is very rare these days and mostly limited to ring games. I've found that I much prefer laying a friendly wager at the racetrack. The pari-mutuel teller always cashes my tickets without delay and without any mouth. And the women there are easier on the eyes than the denizens of the pool hall. Ovserve:

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Case closed gentlemen...

Absolutely and like I said there are better ways to spend ones time that arguing or stressing over pool. Nice examples!
 
Everyone has an opinion - it's just that some people need to make sure you know it. It's not just gambling - it's everything. I'm not a big gambler. A few bucks or a beer on a game; and a few trips to the nearby casino per year and that's about it. It's for fun! I break even in the long run - the wife does a little better!
 
ive never been a gambler of any kind
I have no need or desire to
if I want to I suppose id play the lottery

I play pool and billiards for the sheer joy of the game and nothing else
 
honestly Joey if you didn't let it get to you, you wouldn't be asking others opinions about it. Take peoples opinions for what they are worth to you....if that is VERY little, let 'em roll off you like water off a ducks back.

BTW, JoeyA, your haircut is stupid - says a guy with little hair left :p
 
I realize everyone has a right to their own opinion and this is a public forum but I am curious how the rest of you think about posting comments about how others gamble, when you don't.

In other words, if you don't gamble, how much value does your criticism have?


JoeyA
This statement literally make NO SENSE whatsoever


If a person is critical of gambling, then by default he shouldn't be gambling else he's being hypocritical. You're saying the only people who have the right to criticize gambling are people who gamble??? LMAO now I've heard everything.
 
This statement literally make NO SENSE whatsoever


If a person is critical of gambling, then by default he shouldn't be gambling else he's being hypocritical. You're saying the only people who have the right to criticize gambling are people who gamble??? LMAO now I've heard everything.

I would second that
The key is informed educated opinion :D
If that statement is true then food reviewers must be great cooks, movie reviewers like Ebert must be great directors , sports commentators must be top players - and we know that is very seldom true . The reverse is more true
:D
 
I like to gamble every now and then. It spices things up. If two people want to gamble, that is their business. In my view though, there are many different kinds of gamblers.

Those that play for low stakes, but enough to keep the game "honest". In other words enough that you aren't just going to take flyers when you shouldn't.

Another group won't gamble the house note, car note, or food money, but anything left over after that, they will bet it. In some cases they bet high, especially if they have a good income. If they think they have a chance to win, they will bet.

There is the group that will be on anything, and risk everything. Pitching coins, which bird will fly off the highline first, pool, you name it, they will gamble. If they think they have good chance, they will bet it all.

I know a guy last year that went out of the pool room with a young kid he never met before and bet $500 on who could throw a soft ball the furthest. The kid comes back in the next day, but won't gamble on the soft ball throw, but wants to pitch quarters for $500 a toss. My friend tells him to give him a little bit, that the set was almost over. The kid comes back in sweating like a pig. My buddy tells him "no bet" you been out there practicing. That was some funny shit.

Me, I could care less if you like to gamble or not that is your business. Just because someone doesn't gamble that doesn't make them a nit, and just because someone is willing to gamble high, doesn't make them King Kong.
 
I think it makes a lot sense actually. As someone who doesn't gamble a lot I have identified the time and place that I will and recently I let loose of some cash to get a lesson I needed to learn. I looked at it as a necessary expense for my game.

Regardless of how you view gambling and whether you do it often there is no more clarity ever to be gotten into your own personal game when you are shooting over the fact that you have money on the line. Sometime amount is irrelevant.

My thoughts also. The amount of money makes no difference... IF you can afford to lose it.

Your chances of winning when playing pool are greater than any Casino one armed bandit.
If you know your opponent, gamble accordingly. Get ball spots or some games on the wire.

If you don't know your opponent you will. Adjust the spot. Some gambling is an experience.
Your game will improve gambling small amounts.. Some players don't play without a wager.
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I don't care whether a person gambles or not, but I find it pathetic when people say they can't play their best game unless there is some cash on the line.

I normally don't play my best poker when I play with pretzels for poker chips. I just push all in every time.
 
I realize everyone has a right to their own opinion and this is a public forum but I am curious how the rest of you think about posting comments about how others gamble, when you don't.

In other words, if you don't gamble, how much value does your criticism have?

I'm not talking about the morality to gamble or not gamble. I'm talking about whether or not a person should even be entitled to make a comment about whether someone is a nit or making a comment about someone that they did something immoral in gambling with another person who was on their second day with no sleep etc.

Not sure if I am making sense or not.

Another different but similar example might be: I don't have much experience and seldom ever play straight pool and I don't think I have much right to make comments about a competent straight pool player, shooting the wrong shot.

Does any of this make any sense?

JoeyA
I don't see how this post could actually lead to a reasonable discussion. All I see is a lot of "gamblers" coming out and badmouthing "non-gamblers" for ridiculous reasons. Anyway, I don't think the fact that a person doesn't gamble themselves precludes them from being able to make a good assessment about something like another person gambling. Why would it? In other words, I guess whether or not they gamble has nothing to do with the value of their criticism. The comment about you talking about a straight pool game is different in that of course 14.1 requires a ton of specialized knowledge whereas I think most fairly intelligent people can understand what happens when people gamble whether or not they do themselves.
 
I don't see how this post could actually lead to a reasonable discussion. All I see is a lot of "gamblers" coming out and badmouthing "non-gamblers" for ridiculous reasons. Anyway, I don't think the fact that a person doesn't gamble themselves precludes them from being able to make a good assessment about something like another person gambling. Why would it? In other words, I guess whether or not they gamble has nothing to do with the value of their criticism. The comment about you talking about a straight pool game is different in that of course 14.1 requires a ton of specialized knowledge whereas I think most fairly intelligent people can understand what happens when people gamble whether or not they do themselves.

I think the OP was referring to people who don't gamble coming out and saying how gambling is not going to get you better or bring out your best game. If someone has never gambled then how can they have a meaningful opinion on whether or not it would get you any better?
 
I think women should have the final say in abortion. It's THEIR BODY and they are the ones who traditionally have the responsibility of nurturing and raising the child to adulthood.

Men and ESPECIALLY priests' criticisms on abortion should hold very little weight, UNTIL men start becoming impregnated.

JoeyA

If you are not female, what value does your criticism of abortion have?

It's the same question.
 
Fair Dinkum

I'm not sure how "ridiculous" the reasons are for gamblers badmouthing non-gamblers but I don't agree with anyone badmouthing non-gamblers for ridiculous reasons.

I suppose what I am saying is that MOST non-gamblers don't have the experience of what is considered "fair dinkum" in the gambler's world, so their opinions should hold very little value.


The gambling world is not black or white and is is filled with nuances that non-gamblers have never experienced so how can their opinions be weighted the same.

Just for the record, I consider non-gamblers with the highest regard.

Personally, I can enjoy small wagers, which for me, is like seasoning on a roast but I can enjoy playing for fun as long as the competition and good company are present.

I also don't look down my nose at gamblers who bet tens of thousands of dollars when they can ill afford to lose a hundred dollars. I may think it is foolish but who am I to tell them how they should gamble because I don't bet tens of thousands of dollars in a match.

JoeyA



I don't see how this post could actually lead to a reasonable discussion. All I see is a lot of "gamblers" coming out and badmouthing "non-gamblers" for ridiculous reasons. Anyway, I don't think the fact that a person doesn't gamble themselves precludes them from being able to make a good assessment about something like another person gambling. Why would it? In other words, I guess whether or not they gamble has nothing to do with the value of their criticism. The comment about you talking about a straight pool game is different in that of course 14.1 requires a ton of specialized knowledge whereas I think most fairly intelligent people can understand what happens when people gamble whether or not they do themselves.
 
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