Cue Refinish / Value?

brandoncook26

brandoncook26

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I have an original Joss made in 69/70 that I would like to get refinished. I contacted Bill Stroud and he said that he was the one who made it, but it is not JossWest because of the date. He said he would charge $500 for the refinish.

I don't have $500 to get it done, so my question is if I had someone else do it, would the value decrease? Would it be a drastic decrease or something smaller? Also, if I chose to go ahead, who would be a good choice for craftsmanship versus value? Thanks for the help.

-Brandon
 
Also there has to be a cue builder in your area. Find out who he is and chances are someone on this forum knows him. As far as value goes there are always 2 sides to that question. Stay original or refinish. IMO if its only a $1000 cue or less I'd rather refinish. It's only gonna be a small difference in value and it now looks good. On the other hand if I found an original Szamboti it would stay that way. You would lose to much by altering it in the slightest.
 
IMO $500 is way too much for a standard refinish, but Bill Stroud is not known for low prices. If you were selling the cue to me I would be much happier buying it if it had a nice new looking finish on the cue instead of the original well used finish that would be dull and possibly nicked and dinged.

I just had a cue refinished and I didn't have the cue maker who built the cue do the work. The cue looks great and if I decide to sell it I think the prospective buyer would be very happy with the way it looks now versus the way it looked when I bought the cue.

Scott Sherbine would be a good choice for a cue like you have. He's reasonable, fast, and his work has a good reputation.

James
 
The debate about keeping a collectible original or refinish it continues.

In regard to collectible cues, what I have heard is if you have the maker do the refinish, it probably doesn't significantly affect the value. If someone else does - no matter how good they are - it probably does lower the value.

I guess the idea is you either have an original in 70% condition or a refinished cue in mint condition. If performed by Bill then it is still 100% a Stroud cue.

If you do have him refinish the cue for you, make sure he throws a letter of authenticity in. Always a help with old cues to have it authenticated by the maker.
 
No matter who refinishes the cue it is still a cue made by (whatever maker like Balabushka etc) Also a cue is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. You can ask whatever $$$$ amount for it but you still have to find the person to put it in their hands. So I think refinishing a cue by another person does not take away from its value.
Ron
 
My old Richard Black was refinished (quite well I'll add) by someone other than Richard.

In fact, I think it is fair to say that the current finish is better than what the original Black was delivered with!

Personally, I would bite the bullet and have Bill do the refinish, but that is just me. I think that having the original maker have the cue in their hands again is a good thing. Maybe a discount on another shaft at the same time?

Anyway, there are MANY excellent cue makers out there, and they will do a fine refinsh for you for under $500.00 if that is all you need to preserve the cue for another 20-30 years or so for your own personal use.

If you want maximum resale value retained, have Bill do it. A letter (as mentioned) would be excellent in this regard as well to enhance resale value.
 
My husband bought a really nice Eddie Farris cue from a local pawn shop. He paid 275.00 for it. He had Eddie refinish it, install new wrap, and clean the 2 shafts for 150.00. he sold the cue on ebay for 1300. I wouldl say locate a reputable cue maker and have them do it.
 
brandoncook26 said:
I have an original Joss made in 69/70 that I would like to get refinished. I contacted Bill Stroud and he said that he was the one who made it, but it is not JossWest because of the date. He said he would charge $500 for the refinish.

I don't have $500 to get it done, so my question is if I had someone else do it, would the value decrease? Would it be a drastic decrease or something smaller? Also, if I chose to go ahead, who would be a good choice for craftsmanship versus value? Thanks for the help.

-Brandon
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Why not contact Danny Janes from Joss, he was also involved with the cues at that time, he may also do the job. Just keep in mind if you have the work done by anyone except one of them, the cue will loose value.

Take care
 
Refinish

When I have a cue refinished it comes down to if I am keeping the cue or reselling it. If it is a keeper I will have a cue refinished by someone other then the maker. I started using Ryan (Ratcues) last year and couldn't be happier. Here is an example of his work on an old Huebler. http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=146924

If I plan on selling the cue I will always go to the maker (If they are still available to do it). I personally think that is the only way to go. Here is an old JW I had Mr. Stroud refinish and rewrap using Cortland. http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=108177

Both cues came out great and I couldn't be happier.
 
I would send it to Janes. It is, afterall, a Joss. I am sure he know how to do it. I believe he has done 1 or 2 in his day.
 
refinish

In my opinion any good cue maker can refinish a cue. Who knows who refinished it. If you got it to keep. Refinish it. If you got it to sell or keep for antique value, then I would leave it alone. I have one in my droor and I won't touch it, as I am keeping it for antique value. Just my opinion. Butterflycues
 
scott sherbine

You cannot miss with scott sherbine at proficient billiards. Google proficient billiards site . See what he does. Then give him a call.
 
brandoncook26 said:
I have an original Joss made in 69/70 that I would like to get refinished. I contacted Bill Stroud and he said that he was the one who made it, but it is not JossWest because of the date. He said he would charge $500 for the refinish.

I don't have $500 to get it done, so my question is if I had someone else do it, would the value decrease? Would it be a drastic decrease or something smaller? Also, if I chose to go ahead, who would be a good choice for craftsmanship versus value? Thanks for the help.

-Brandon
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Post a picture of the cue, I'd like to see what it looks like. I love those old Joss cues...
 
I had Bill Stroud ...

refinish my JW a couple of years ago. It was in good shape and he did a very nice job rewrapping it and refinishing it. The cue is my player, and as such I don't know that I would spend the $ again for the work. I could have bought a really nice sneaky, or recovered my table with that money.

Don't get me wrong though..... I do love my JW, I've been playing with it for almost 30 years!!!

I guess your reasons for the question will ultimately determine the best answers. The market is low, and probably will be for some time given the economy and if it is entirely for resale... you may want to check out past sold items in the WTB/FS section to find comparisons. JMO

td
 
If you go to Mueller which is RatCues on here user id he will charge much less than Stroud will. Last time I checked it was about $160 for a refinish. I know not all cuemakers use exactly the same finish and technique but to pay $500 might be a lot. Might be worth it if he does other work for a slight discount and gives a letter to verify the cue.


brandoncook26 said:
I have an original Joss made in 69/70 that I would like to get refinished. I contacted Bill Stroud and he said that he was the one who made it, but it is not JossWest because of the date. He said he would charge $500 for the refinish.

I don't have $500 to get it done, so my question is if I had someone else do it, would the value decrease? Would it be a drastic decrease or something smaller? Also, if I chose to go ahead, who would be a good choice for craftsmanship versus value? Thanks for the help.

-Brandon
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