Pretty much exactly what I expected - tried to rep, but need to spread it around first. :thumbup:
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Pretty much exactly what I expected - tried to rep, but need to spread it around first. :thumbup:
I guess you answered this before you read the post which pointed out that OB1 makes a shaft to fit Cuetec cues.
Not in "any" way? Would you care to bet on that?
I will bet you a lot of money that Allison's personal cue is nearly identical to the same model you can buy off the shelf.
And with your statement you are calling Chris DeLeGarza (sorry I am sure I butchered your last name), Shane's ex-girlfriend a LIAR because she stated emphatically in another thread that the cue Shane is playing with is a standard Cuetec cue.
Only Earl Strickland's cue didn't resemble a stock Cuetec because he put bicycle tape on it and did other things to it as well - the same things he does to other cues in the hopes that he can find the magic pixie dust to bring his game back. He certainly didn't get some extra-special Cuetec that no one else could get.
Is it just galling to think that someone like Allison or Shane or Earl can play with an off the rack cue and play world class? Especially if that cue brand is not well liked among the "elite know it alls?".
If McDermott or Viking had come out with the same cue and done the same amount of sponsorship then you would probably be praising them right now and not trying hard to disparage their business with outright false information.
At least that's how I feel about it.
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No, no, I think you missed my point - the drivers are all manufactured the SAME (regardless if retail or for the tour). Ping, Titleist, Mizuno, etc. doesn't set up a seperate cast or forge set-up for Tour. Anyone can add another shaft (not just the tour vans), just like I could buy a Cuetec with the SST shaft and then buy a r360 shaft too. Sorry if I made it sound like there is some BIG difference - there is not. I can buy a Titleist driver with an upgraded shaft at the local golf store and it'd be no different than Joe Blow tour guys if the loft and shaft are the same.....that's what I was trying to say.
And Manwon can get the equal bet or more that SVB cue is identical to the model that you can buy from Cuetech, in the plastic wrapper.
Count me all in, we all heard it from the horse's mouth in Des Moines.
sure, pile on.....easy to bet when you have the facts.
It's how I make my v-cash...
I have always wondered about the white Cuetec that Allison won so many tournaments with. Did she actually use a fiberglass-cladded SST shaft with this cue??? I have looked very hard every time she is on ESPN and have yet to ever see the SST logo on the shaft of her cue (and it would be VERY noticeable), or any other logo for that matter. I often wondered if she had the Cuetec people NOT clad her shaft with fiberglass. Could someone please clear this up???
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She said she plays with the same cue that any customer can buy in the store.
Is it just galling to think that someone like Allison or Shane or Earl can play with an off the rack cue and play world class? Especially if that cue brand is not well liked among the "elite know it alls?".
I thought Earl played with a custom made shaft?
He even said on one article on BD years ago he went back to his "old taper."
Allison is fine by the stock shaft.
Earl liking those skinny long barreled maple shaft is another thing I think.
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I will not apologize for my statement, I saw Earls cue very close up years back, and you can bet your ass that it did not have a the standard shaft that came on the cuetec cues of that time. Earl also had the cue taped up in the grip area and Earl played with that cue for years.
Next, I did spend the $25 for the TAR match, and yes I did watch it but it was not possible to tell other than what was said if the cue was modified or not.
If Shane is playing with a stock cuetec that is certainly wonderful, but everyone sponsored by them has not over the years.
How smart are they?
A month ago playing with a Cuetec was one of the most frowned upon things by the pool elite. Now they have everyone going nuts. If nothing else you have to pat them on the back for the decision to choose Shane to represent them. I still feel like we are going to see the band wagon start up and ride high. That being said, I have not shot with thier new cues, so my opinion is based only on what I have seen on this board. But I can say one thing, minds have changed. If he sells cues, great. For all intents and purposes, SVB could screw a shaft onto 2x2 and still play great. That is the point that I think a lot of people are forgetting. He is a champion and an amazing shot maker. Any cue he has in his hands is going to play well enough for him to win.
I wish Cuetec the best of luck and admire the move they made. It was smart, just like when they pick up Fisher and Strickland but eventually the shock and awe wore off and they were back to taking a beating.
Just some food for thought.
Respectfully
Jallan
A month ago playing with a Cuetec was one of the most frowned upon things by the pool elite. Now they have everyone going nuts. If nothing else you have to pat them on the back for the decision to choose Shane to represent them. I still feel like we are going to see the band wagon start up and ride high. That being said, I have not shot with thier new cues, so my opinion is based only on what I have seen on this board. But I can say one thing, minds have changed. If he sells cues, great. For all intents and purposes, SVB could screw a shaft onto 2x2 and still play great. That is the point that I think a lot of people are forgetting. He is a champion and an amazing shot maker. Any cue he has in his hands is going to play well enough for him to win.
I wish Cuetec the best of luck and admire the move they made. It was smart, just like when they pick up Fisher and Strickland but eventually the shock and awe wore off and they were back to taking a beating.
Just some food for thought.
Respectfully
Jallan
Well John this is how I feel about it, Bite Me Sweet Heart!!!!
How's that John?
First John don't put words in my mouth, or bend something into your twisted, distorted and blurred concept of reality. I will bet if you lived in this country you would fly a Chinese Flag in front of your house!!! My name is John Barton and I will Huff and Puff and Blow your House down!!!
Now that is some funny shit, John your shallow nature, and egotisical behavior is very laughable. Do you think you fool anyone John? For some one who has accomplished so much in thier life you have a major lack of confidents. Do you think you are fooling anyone John? It is very obvious John you were the Kid who always had a kick me sign on your back.John you are the King:bow-down::bow-down::bow-down:
> I can tell you 100% that Earl's shafts were NOT bone stock. First of all,they had the clear fiberglass CUT OFF,down to the bare wood. The taper was the same diameter about 20 inches straight back,and often had the ferrules changed,of course with different than stock tips. Back before he started with the tennis grips and tape,he handed me his cue after Joe Blackburn got done working on it and it reminded me of the old Meucci snooker shafts,it was that thin and whippy. Of course,some of the whippiness came from the thin diameter of the butt at the joint facing.
I have never wanted to own a Cuetec,other than the possibility of having a cue I can leave in the car,but wouldn't mind hitting some balls with one of these R360's. If Shane likes it,so be it. It's great that they really do pay their reps well to play with them.
Another note on endorsee's playing with modified equipment,the word I heard was that all of the Lucasi cues that Buddy Hall used spent a length of time in Dennis Searing's shop,including a complete reworking of the butt and high-grade shafts. Tommy D.
I have never wanted to own a Cuetec,other than the possibility of having a cue I can leave in the car,but wouldn't mind hitting some balls with one of these R360's. If Shane likes it,so be it. It's great that they really do pay their reps well to play with them.
Another note on endorsee's playing with modified equipment,the word I heard was that all of the Lucasi cues that Buddy Hall used spent a length of time in Dennis Searing's shop,including a complete reworking of the butt and high-grade shafts. Tommy D.
I think they are very Smart for picking Shane, I think that Imperial Billiards made a great choice, and yes Cuetec is owned by Imperial.
But this is not the first time they made the right move they have done the same thing many times throughout the years, with Earl, Allison, and Shane. It is all about money and that is for certain and they are one of the bigger companies out there.
How it will effect sales remains to be seen, but no one can dispute that Shane deserves the big bucks.
Man you are going to get attacked, John Barton has Spoken and you are going against what Big John Said!!!!
The sharks are circling, Burp!!!
Good Post
I guess what makes me laugh the most is the fact that not to long in the past Cuetec took a bashing from everyone and anyone. Now Shane rides his cue out of Des Moines and people who beat them up before think they are not so bad. Shane looses that match and the 6 or 7 "Shane's cue" threads are not going to read so favorably. If Cuetec was smart they would have paid Frost 20,000 to dump that match and eliminate the chance of a poor image so early in this sponsorship.
I am not beating up Cuetec or their product, I am just surprised how many people have changes their opinions because a world champion won a match. Are we all so soft of consumers that we will jump on board with a product so quickly. Shane is going to sell Cuetecs faster than clevage sells beer.
Well John this is how I feel about it, Bite Me Sweet Heart!!!!
Am I not even sure why I am replying as you really don't have any realm of reality, especially when it comes to looking at yourself, your business (I still laugh at your pics of the great Grady event and the 14 people that showed up to watch - great job with your business), and your comments.
Who has the distorted concept of reality? You know, previously you made a comment towards me off handed about questioning my knowledge of reality that I just let slide.
Let's do this. I like John's idea of a bet. Let's put up $10k, I'll fly you to Turning Stone and you can inspect SVB's cue for yourself. If you don't have $10K, let me know how much you are willing to bet. If it covers your airfare, that is good enough for me.
Actually Cuetec has always taken a beating on these forums. But in the poolrooms people are playing great pool with them. Cuetec MIGHT be the best selling pool cue brand of all time.
But even on the forums you find a lot of rational people who say very forthrightly that they play just fine with their Cuetecs as well as they do with their Schons. Just that the Schon gives them more pride when using it.
I don't happen to subscribe to the theory that a pro can play "as well" with any cue. I think that they can adjust faster than most other people to different conditions and their average skill level being MUCH higher they will always be able to play better with different equipment than Joe PoolPlayer.
If you want a good example of that Scott Frost was playing 1P against Corey Duell one night at Derby. I sat there and watched him dog shot after shot and ***** about the cue every shot. His cue had been stolen I think and he was playing with a borrowed cue and it affected him a lot. I firmly believe that a cue's charateristics make a difference and I also firmly believe that Shane would never give up his old cues if he had ANY DOUBT as to the playability of the cue he is using now.
For me it is not about Shane winning or losing a match.
I have tried a couple of Cuetec-cues, never really liked them, but I have decided to buy something from their factory, ONLY because they support pro pool with money.
Not too many companies do that today.
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