Agree. I thought it was written by an average high school kid who read a chapter on contracts and barely passed the exam.
Dennis vs. SVB Full Story- Truth From the Inside
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Agree. I thought it was written by an average high school kid who read a chapter on contracts and barely passed the exam.
Yeah, that doc looks more like the boilerplate forms you buy from Office Depot and you fill in the blanks.
As far as having a notary public stamp it, that means little more than both parties proved their identities and actually signed that document. That's pretty much the extent of the notary's job.
Eric
Sadly to say, in the pool world, the bigger the bet (if it isn't he player's own money), the more likely there is something fishy going on. Not always, but I've seen a lot of "middling" in my days.
Why cant the people who do not understand why having real money in the middle matters just accept that they are in the minority? For most people who buy the PPV it does matter whats really being played for.
It doesnt matter to you fine. It matters a whole lot for other people.
Also its clear you do not bet on matches. Many people who buy PPV's only do so because they are sweating them. Because you do not understand this does not change that it is a fact.
That contract was designed to bully Dennis into handing over money. French made the mistake of letting other people see it, this would never make it to court or hold water and people pointed that out so French had no choice but to get rid of that foolish piece of paper. I hope the rest of the "horses" get clear of this guy and fast.
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What they are playing for matters. The players want to and need to get paid to support their families and their lifestyles.
If they don't have enough in the middle, guess what? There is a temptation to gamble on the matches themselves. Then, if they see a gambler that is willing to bet a lot of money on EITHER side, the temptation arises to make a "deal" where the players make a bet on one side with this big gambler, with an agreement to split the profits when the right person loses.
I gambled a bit on the Dennis and Ko match, and I can tell you, if I new that it was more of an exhibition match -- I probably wouldn't have bet on it. It's just too risky betting when the players don't have enough in the middle to play for -- regardless of who the players are. EDIT: I should add...what happens when the person you gambled with knows that the match was only an exhibition and you don't....and possibly also knows that the opponent plans to sign with the same "agent" as the other player and you don't? Too much room for funny business, even if none ultimately occurs.
Sure, SVB appears to be an honest and stand-up guy, but everyone has their price. Maybe SVB was willing to play the match for 15k talent fee with door money. It didn't happen in the end, but honestly, nothing would surprise me when it comes to money.
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you spelled "s**t" wrong
To piggy back on this, it's the same in Poker. Why does poker gain so much interest? Is it because:
A. the game is enthralling to watch?
B. the people do crazy things?
C. anyone can win?
C. the money is so big?
Correct answer is D. I love playing poker, but watching poker on TV is only interesting because of the amounts of $$ that is being played for. Yes, there are some interesting personalities, (Helmuth, Negraneau, etc...), but that is not the primary reason I'm watching it. While C is technically correct, it's not a reason to watch it on TV. It's a reason to play.
More money creates more implied drama. People want to see who is going to be able to perform under the pressure of playing for a larger amount of $$, and the reactions when they walk away with the cash, or lose it.
Just my $.02.
probably not...
Eric's net worth was pretty high, but I don't think he's made any money for years...He's tried a few things and may be working on some other things, but you don't stay wealthy by investing in precarious ideas (i.e. pool ventures) when you don't have a sure means of recouping losses...
I don't blame Eric at all for not being pool's white knight...
Jaden
Eric's net worth was pretty high, but I don't think he's made any money for years...He's tried a few things and may be working on some other things, but you don't stay wealthy by investing in precarious ideas (i.e. pool ventures) when you don't have a sure means of recouping losses...
I don't blame Eric at all for not being pool's white knight...
Jaden
The fact that people don't understand that if there is dishonesty about the money then there could very well be dishonesty about the actual outcome, amazes me.
Whether there IS dishonesty or not is irrelevant...
It doesn't matter whether there IS dishonesty...It's all about perception.
Everything can be strictly above board and if there is a general perception that it's hanky it's screwed.
Everything can be shady as shit, but if the perception is that it's honest, all is good.
I think THAT, more than anything, is why Shane decided to walk away from it. At this point, it is tainted and the perception is that it's not what it seems. At this point, it doesn't matter if they ACTUALLY came up with 250K each and played for it, the perception is tainted.
Jaden
It doesn't matter whether there IS dishonesty...It's all about perception.
Everything can be strictly above board and if there is a general perception that it's hanky it's screwed.
Everything can be shady as shit, but if the perception is that it's honest, all is good.
I think THAT, more than anything, is why Shane decided to walk away from it. At this point, it is tainted and the perception is that it's not what it seems. At this point, it doesn't matter if they ACTUALLY came up with 250K each and played for it, the perception is tainted.
Jaden
I don't think anyone discounts that dishonesty ruins a match. I think the point is that the dishonesty develops because the funding source is shady to begin with.
Ah, a happy ending. [Like nobody knew this was coming]
What about all the players and people on Facebook that said he was the greatest thing since the jump cue.