But there is a good bit of value added in the quick resolution of the matter.
Diamond Professional vs Gold Crown IV
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But there is a good bit of value added in the quick resolution of the matter.
You should buy a Diamond if:
You want a table that banks differently from every other table ever made. -Why?
You want a table that has faster cushions than pretty much everything else. - Why?
You want a boxy looking table. - Why?
The good thing about Diamond tables is the lack of metal corner castings and the leveling system. The bad thing is that they are just so different and in all the wrong ways. If you've studied rail systems, all of that is pretty much out the window, unless you seriously alter them. Your'e going to scratch and get out of position in ways that seem like they're physically impossible, at least for a while. It shouldn't be possible to come up 1-2 full diamonds short on a simple two railer? Oh boy, are you ever wrong! If you've played a long time, like me, it's going to be hard to change all the key shots. Up until their introduction, those were pretty much on the button with minor adjustments on most tables and you could use your carom knowledge on any pool table. Not anymore, let's throw hundreds of years of history out the window. And why, oh why, would anyone want faster rails on a pool table that allready has lightening fast cloth? It's stupid, unnecessary and it changes the game for the worse. More bunting. That's what pool needs, apparently.
You want a table that banks differently from every other table ever made. -Why?
You want a table that has faster cushions than pretty much everything else. - Why?
You want a boxy looking table. - Why?
The good thing about Diamond tables is the lack of metal corner castings and the leveling system. The bad thing is that they are just so different and in all the wrong ways. If you've studied rail systems, all of that is pretty much out the window, unless you seriously alter them. Your'e going to scratch and get out of position in ways that seem like they're physically impossible, at least for a while. It shouldn't be possible to come up 1-2 full diamonds short on a simple two railer? Oh boy, are you ever wrong! If you've played a long time, like me, it's going to be hard to change all the key shots. Up until their introduction, those were pretty much on the button with minor adjustments on most tables and you could use your carom knowledge on any pool table. Not anymore, let's throw hundreds of years of history out the window. And why, oh why, would anyone want faster rails on a pool table that allready has lightening fast cloth? It's stupid, unnecessary and it changes the game for the worse. More bunting. That's what pool needs, apparently.
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I've now seen this mentioned a couple of times and don't understand it.
Are newer GC's significantly lighter than the older ones such that it makes playing on them bad?
All of the GC's I've ever played on seem to play well and I can't say any of them seemed particularly light.
What am I missing?
best,
brian kc
1200-1300 lbs is what a gc 4 weighs....
Any chance of knocking down a wall and getting the diamond while keeping the gold crown?
That's the gist of my latest project...couldn't decide because I love the gold crown so much, but always wanted a diamond pro am, so designed a home room to hold both.
Now if I could just get the delivery truck to move a little faster...any day now.
That's the gist of my latest project...couldn't decide because I love the gold crown so much, but always wanted a diamond pro am, so designed a home room to hold both.
Now if I could just get the delivery truck to move a little faster...any day now.
Now that's the best thing I have heard through out this thread! YOU ARE THE MAN, I like your style!
Trent from Toledo
how does this compare with a GC1 or 2 and also a Diamond?
And, does this GC4 weight make it play bad or create some other negative aspect?
Trying to understand why some are pointing out GC4 weight as a negative.
My GC1 has never slid on long stroke shots. :grin-square:
thx,
brian kc
The weight is comparable to a 1, 2, or 3. There is nothing wrong at all with a Gc 4. I consider it to be right behind the GC 5 &6, the best in the world.... Diamonds are nice and very popular. The pocket shelf is the only serious difference I can speak of. Diamonds do play a slight bit different, but, any player who can play well can play well on ANY table. I know all the GC's in and out and also all the Diamonds. I prefer the gold crown with 4.5"(141)corner and 5"(102) sides any and everyday.
Trent from Toledo
Haha thanks.
Trent, stay tuned, I have photos of the entire event. I'm thinking about making it's own thread for it all with the progression photos because it's very in-depth.
There's going to be a 10 foot gold crown, and a 9 foot diamond pro am end to end.
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The 10 foot table has a bit of history to it, which really makes it special.
It sure is a pisser to come 2 rails out of a corner and scratch in the side, isnt it?!
I also feel that is not possible, yet I hav done it too many times.
Lol....I've only ever scratched like that on a Diamond and I've said that very thing -- "That's not even supposed to be possible!"
That would be duplicative and redundant and redundant to have two 9'ers though.
Uh oh, you better watch out now, you will be waking up a certain snake. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
I have decided to indeed visit the Diamond factory tomorrow.
However, I am leaning towards keeping the GCIV simply because it saves me a lot of hassle and headaches. I sort of figure that if I got the Diamond Pro that after 2-3 months I would ask myself...…"Why did I just do this? Why did I just spend several thousand $$$ on this when I already had a Gold Crown IV???"
But, we shall see...…….
r/Mike
That's why American's buy all the shit in the world. ha ha. We have to have everything. Be American
Get a diamond 10 foot and then you have bragging rights for eternity. :thumbup:
That's why American's buy all the shit in the world. ha ha. We have to have everything. Be American
Exactly this ^^^
The ol' motto..."you only live once" applies to the American dream. Gotta go big.
What about when you have a couple of friends over, two of you are playing...then the other guy has a table that he can warm up on while he waits for the 11 inning battle on the 5 ball.
Sweet redundancy. :grin-square:
The year was about 2005. The expo was in town, and everyone was at Markley Billiards for the action. Our top Philly gun Eddie is attempting to match up with an out of town road man. Eddie has been playing all day, and says he doesn't want to play a shooting game because he's tired, but rather a moving game. So they agree to play full rack banks. Race to 3 for about 4k per man. Little did we Philly players know the opponent had just gotten 2nd or third at DCC banks a year or two prior. (His name escapes me now!). Anyway, Eddie misses a bank, and leave a simple cross side. Right after he misses, he goes outside to smoke a J. While outside, the out of towner's clan set up the cross side on the next table, and he banks it in about 10 times in a row. Eddie comes back in, and the road player makes the bank on the match table, and proceeds to win the set from there.
So, its good to have two tables
The year was about 2005. The expo was in town, and everyone was at Markley Billiards for the action. Our top Philly gun Eddie is attempting to match up with an out of town road man. Eddie has been playing all day, and says he doesn't want to play a shooting game because he's tired, but rather a moving game. So they agree to play full rack banks. Race to 3 for about 4k per man. Little did we Philly players know the opponent had just gotten 2nd or third at DCC banks a year or two prior. (His name escapes me now!). Anyway, Eddie misses a bank, and leave a simple cross side. Right after he misses, he goes outside to smoke a J. While outside, the out of towner's clan set up the cross side on the next table, and he banks it in about 10 times in a row. Eddie comes back in, and the road player makes the bank on the match table, and proceeds to win the set from there.
So, its good to have two tables
Duly noted. Great story and very applicable today.
They have two tables at the Mosconi Cup in the back room to warm up.