disgraceful is what it is!!!!

jay helfert said:
I tried to give you rep points also. Seems I still must "spread it around". Oh well, it's the thought that counts.

Thanks Jay. Next I'm in L.A. You owe me a Ruben on Rye.
 
cleary said:
Ill play you $.50 a game, race to 3....and Ill give you the 4 ball. Just fly on out to new york and we can play.

This is what's known as a Nit's Nit. The Nittiest of Nits known to exist in the Universe.
 
GG11 said:
Wow! That's my old stomping ground when I visit Miami!! My parent lives a few blocks away. :) Southridge rat huh?? Gooooo Panthers!! :rolleyes:

Course, I was born in 1981, so I doubt I'd have run into you back then. Do you still go there?

You can all bow down to the mighty SOUTH DADE HIGH SCHOOL BIG BLUE...I was there in 1979 and 1980 and we schooled Southridge in golf:D . Man I am getting old.

-don
 
Cleary, is this one award winning material?
 

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JCIN said:
What "Professional" produced events has given us:

Race to 7
Alternate break
Being bumped from air by womens golf
IPT music video style production
Sigel calling the greatest player ever by the wrong name every time (Efrem)
ESPN gaffe game invitationals (Texas hold 'em pool, 7 ball, "Tournament of Champions" that comes down to 1 guy hoping he gets to break the last rack.)

What Pat Fleming and Accu-Stats have given us:

A record of the worlds best players in full length events.
The greatest commentary ever (Incardona, Grady, Davenport, Hall, and Varner to name a few)
The single most valuable teaching resource available to new and old players.
Solid watchable events without all the "Gee Whiz" VFX and swoopy camera crap.
They defined the standard of what a great pool production should be.

You can have MTV and HBO. I'll take Pat Fleming and Accu-Stats any day.

Well said JCIN, got my ticket for Saturday in Sioux Falls, should be awesome. Good Work guys, let's ditch this thread and get back to the Action between Shane and Corey:p

-don
 
DaveK said:
Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you do for these productions ? Are you a post-production audio engineer ? A foli artist ? A camera man ? A gaffer ? A grip ? A director ? An extra ?

Dave

Check post #78 on p.6 by Smorgass Bored. He totally busted this big time "producer". I already had a read on him by my post #40 on P.3.

He is a Motion Graphics Artist, and King Size Bullshitter.
 
JCIN said:
What "Professional" produced events has given us:

Race to 7
Alternate break
Being bumped from air by womens golf
IPT music video style production
Sigel calling the greatest player ever by the wrong name every time (Efrem)
ESPN gaffe game invitationals (Texas hold 'em pool, 7 ball, "Tournament of Champions" that comes down to 1 guy hoping he gets to break the last rack.)

What Pat Fleming and Accu-Stats have given us:

A record of the worlds best players in full length events.
The greatest commentary ever (Incardona, Grady, Davenport, Hall, and Varner to name a few)
The single most valuable teaching resource available to new and old players.
Solid watchable events without all the "Gee Whiz" VFX and swoopy camera crap.
They defined the standard of what a great pool production should be.

You can have MTV and HBO. I'll take Pat Fleming and Accu-Stats any day.

Tap Tap Tap

This is NOT a knocker!
 
SpiderWebComm said:
From the looks of his avatar, it may not :eek:


I'm figuring 20,000 games, 30 games an hour, 20 hours a day. You see what I mean. It could take a while. And who knows? He could win a game. :)
 
JAM said:
I think -- and I may be wrong -- that one of the Fusco "cousins" was on the player list for the "world" championship in New Jersey. Did they get in via a qualifier, I wonder, or were they invited because of their legendary status in the history of American pool?

JAM

I know of a few people that I seen playing in that tourny. I had to look three times to make sure if that was really him that was playin. I could not believe it. He played two balls under a short stop.
 
back to the issue

My .02

1. i agree that many matches would be lost if accu stats was not here.

2. Accu stats charges WAY to much for a match on DVD.

3. Accu stats charges WAY to much for a match on DVD.

4. I'm glad other people are getting into the filming of pool matches. I hope compatition provides better, more, and cheaper dvd's.
 
I just want to say to all my friends on here. This is the first time I ever got mad at anyone on AZ. A couple of other guys have said some pretty stupid things on here and woofed at me, but that never bothered me.

But when this guy went off on Pat Fleming and Accu-Stats, I just about lost it. Pat is one of the people I most respect in the Pool world for many reasons, only one of which is his video production company.

I have known Pat since he was primarily a top ranked Straight Pool player. I know him to be a man of high integrity and honor. And one dedicated to bettering the sport of pool for all to enjoy. For those of you who are new here, Pat devised the Accu-Stats rating system for pool players that is still the most accurate one ever created IMO. This was prior to his video business.

I could not stand by and give this "clown" any breathing room after his first insult ridden post. And as long as he choses to post on here, I will be on his ass until I hear a sincere and meaningful apology to Pat Fleming. "Buddy", you were way out of line!
 
do you have the inside scoop?

Do you have the inside scoop on total sales and cost of production and marketing? I know a handful of people that made niche videos and CD's. None got rich at it and most lost money. Someone who's sales of a DVD numbers in the hundreds or low thousands on most DVD's has to make a lot more per copy than someone selling a few hundred thousand or more of the same DVD.

Hu


cbi1000 said:
My .02

1. i agree that many matches would be lost if accu stats was not here.

2. Accu stats charges WAY to much for a match on DVD.

3. Accu stats charges WAY to much for a match on DVD.

4. I'm glad other people are getting into the filming of pool matches. I hope compatition provides better, more, and cheaper dvd's.
 
jay helfert said:
I just want to say to all my friends on here. This is the first time I ever got mad at anyone on AZ. A couple of other guys have said some pretty stupid things on here and woofed at me, but that never bothered me.

But when this guy went off on Pat Fleming and Accu-Stats, I just about lost it. Pat is one of the people I most respect in the Pool world for many reasons, only one of which is his video production company.

I have known Pat since he was primarily a top ranked Straight Pool player. I know him to be a man of high integrity and honor. And one dedicated to bettering the sport of pool for all to enjoy. For those of you who are new here, Pat devised the Accu-Stats rating system for pool players that is still the most accurate one ever created IMO. This was prior to his video business.

I could not stand by and give this "clown" any breathing room after his first insult ridden post. And as long as he choses to post on here, I will be on his ass until I hear a sincere and meaningful apology to Pat Fleming. "Buddy", you were way out of line!

Jay, the LAST thing you ever need to do on here is explain yourself (about anything).
 
cleary said:
First of all, Accustats as a video production company is like a bunch of damn monkeys trying to launch a spaceship. They are a joke. Just horrible, have no idea what they are doing and should find new jobs. They make pool look bad to the whole world on national tv. They kill the sport....rob it of its beauty.

Second off..... Grady, if you wanted to go to the World Straight Pool Championships so damn bad.... you could have qualified for them. I respect you as a player and what you have done in pool but crying on the internet isnt going to help your situation. If you have something to prove, do it on the table not with your mouth.

So, you're 25 years old and have the market cornered on knowing what to do.That makes perfect sense to me.And you have a way with words ,really, as you so eloquently expressed your feeling of what a bad production co. Accustats is. You handled that like the true professional that you are.I would like to have your business card,to keep you in mind for anything that may come up, that I might think you would qualify for. I'll put it in my don't forget about me file It's not often that you run across someone as polished as you at a young age.:cool: :cool: :cool:

In regard to your suggestion to Grady ,to qualify on the table not with your mouth,is something that maybe you should practice. Grady has qualified many times,unlike you. Grady and I go round and round at times,but he certainly deserved to be invited to The World Pool Championships. I would like to say that I appreciated your post,but I can't . It was in very poor taste. And maybe some day i'll have the opportunity to tell you how I really feel about you. Have a not so nice day. Bill Incardona
 
wincardona said:
So, you're 25 years old and have the market cornered on knowing what to do.That makes perfect sense to me.And you have a way with words ,really, as you so eloquently expressed your feeling of what a bad production co. Accustats is. You handled that like the true professional that you are.I would like to have your business card,to keep you in mind for anything that may come up, that I might think you would qualify for. I'll put it in my don't forget about me file It's not often that you run across someone as polished as you at a young age.:cool: :cool: :cool:

In regard to your suggestion to Grady ,to qualify on the table not with your mouth,is something that maybe you should practice. Grady has qualified many times,unlike you. Grady and I go round and round at times,but he certainly deserved to be invited to The World Pool Championships. I would like to say that I appreciated your post,but I can't . It was in very poor taste. And maybe some day i'll have the opportunity to tell you how I really feel about you. Have a not so nice day. Bill Incardona
tap tap tap... i dont think it could have been said any better Mr. Incardona...
 
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