Does this annoy you?

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Playing 8-ball for funsies and he keeps safe-blipping the cue ball behind his numerous object balls still on the table when there are shots he could take? Yeah, it's part of the game but when the only thing at stake is your ego? He's been playing probably five times longer than me and has four extra shafts in his cue case. I waxed him two to one.

Should I just look at this as a chance to practice kick and masse' shots?

On the other hand I'd have a lot of respect for a two way miss/safe.

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You answered your own question.
Its part of the game. It your opponents turn at the table so he is entitled to
play whatever shot that pleases him.

I have guys that do that to me frequently. They are teaching me. They want to see how I get out from where they put me. They are not doing it to be p ricks. They're trying to make me think.
 
Don't you know...

hooking people is fun!!!!

moreso if they're a 'whippersnapper'

and especially if you know they don't like it!!!:D

td
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
You answered your own question.
Its part of the game. It your opponents turn at the table so he is entitled to
play whatever shot that pleases him.

I have guys that do that to me frequently. They are teaching me. They want to see how I get out from where they put me. They are not doing it to be p ricks. They're trying to make me think.
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No, they're hoping to win by not shooting until they get lucky and get a leave that grandma could handle.
 
grindz said:
hooking people is fun!!!!

moreso if they're a 'whippersnapper'

and especially if you know they don't like it!!!:D

td
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We can see how effective the fun was when the score was 16 to 8. And I wasn't even shooting good.

Even more fun will be when I start repositioning their balls so it's harder for them to do that and also repositioning their balls so they're tied up by each other and tieing up their favored pockets with my balls. And, then- I start playing blip-safeties back at them. :yikes:

The fun hasn't even started yet.
 
risky biz said:
We can see how effective the fun was when the score was 16 to 8. And I wasn't even shooting good.

Even more fun will be when I start repositioning their balls so it's harder for them to do that and also repositioning their balls so they're tied up by each other and tieing up their favored pockets with my balls. And, then- I start playing blip-safeties back at them. :yikes:

The fun hasn't even started yet.
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You ask a question, disagree with the responses and then brag about how good you were vs. your opponent. I see a pattern here but instead of telling you what I really think, I will just say...take your opponents safety play as a compliment to the strength of your game.
 
Any shot that is played within the rules doesn't bother me at all. Why would it? It's the game and within the rules. Why do better players often complain about how a lesser player plays his game? Just play your game and beat them. If you beat them, then what is there to complain about?
 
sounds like this guy wasn't too good

risky biz said:
Playing 8-ball for funsies and he keeps safe-blipping the cue ball behind his numerous object balls still on the table when there are shots he could take? Yeah, it's part of the game but when the only thing at stake is your ego? He's been playing probably five times longer than me and has four extra shafts in his cue case. I waxed him two to one.

Should I just look at this as a chance to practice kick and masse' shots?

On the other hand I'd have a lot of respect for a two way miss/safe.

:eek:
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Somebody that is good at playing safeties can make life miserable for another player playing eight ball especially on a bar table. If they aren't too good then they are just opening the door for the other player with their deliberate breaks in their own runs. Sounds like the other player wasn't too good and needed to practice his safeties so why complain?

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risky biz said:
Playing 8-ball for funsies and he keeps safe-blipping the cue ball behind his numerous object balls still on the table when there are shots he could take? Yeah, it's part of the game but when the only thing at stake is your ego? He's been playing probably five times longer than me and has four extra shafts in his cue case. I waxed him two to one.

Should I just look at this as a chance to practice kick and masse' shots?

On the other hand I'd have a lot of respect for a two way miss/safe.

:eek:
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Something else that you might want to consider is that maybe this person makes it a point to play everyone the same no matter how good or bad they are and no matter what is at stake. Some people do this as a way to gain consistency in their game. It might not be personal.

At any rate it would be good for your game to find a way to not let it bother you. I'm sure you know that some will play slow on purpose to get under your skin, you just got to get past it.

Things like this used to bother me, now it's kind of funny watching the extremes some will go to to try and get and edge. When they see it doesn't work it bothers them and that gives me an edge!
 
Humm don’t want to sound insulting but uh why are you giving up the table when you can be safed so easily so often? Sounds like you made some mistakes against a player ½ your speed and he (rightly so) knew this and tried to get some games out of you by out maneuvering you because he recognized that he couldn’t out shoot you.

Sounds like you could dance rings around him, my suggestion would be to play better opponents because when you leave them a table full of balls when you have very few (or worse 1) they will either safe you once and run the table or just run the table on you.

This comes up a lot here and I am amazed by it frankly; why do you give a rats ___ wt* HIS play is? If his plays annoyed you and got him wins that he probably would not have gotten otherwise you should probably learn something from that; just in case you want to play someone like him for anything but funsies and they ask for weight.

If it is that these shot choices annoyed you because you feel he could shoot better by playing more aggressively you probably should have told him so; if you waxed him 66% he might just listen to you and you will enjoy playing him more the next time around.

Frankly I like playing with people that get annoyed by multiple safeties; it’s a weakness that can be used against an opponent very effectively.
 
I don't play too tough for less than $20 a game....
...I don't want to be known as a $10 hooker...:rolleyes:
 
Originally Posted by risky biz
We can see how effective the fun was when the score was 16 to 8. And I wasn't even shooting good.

Even more fun will be when I start repositioning their balls so it's harder for them to do that and also repositioning their balls so they're tied up by each other and tieing up their favored pockets with my balls. And, then- I start playing blip-safeties back at them.

The fun hasn't even started yet.

dr9ball said:
You ask a question, disagree with the responses and then brag about how good you were vs. your opponent. I see a pattern here but instead of telling you what I really think, I will just say...take your opponents safety play as a compliment to the strength of your game.
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Not bragging. I commented the results to indicate why it didn't benefit the other player significantly. I think he would have done better if he took available shots even if they were difficult.

I guess, to some extent, it's annoying to me because I get the feeling my time is better spent practicing by myself rather than attempting difficult banks and kicks so often.

He isn't a poor player. He used to beat me but as I've adjusted to his play that is no longer the case. I guess the next time I could follow the game plan as outlined in my comment above and consider it strategy practice.
 
risky biz said:
Playing 8-ball for funsies and he keeps safe-blipping the cue ball behind his numerous object balls still on the table when there are shots he could take? Yeah, it's part of the game but when the only thing at stake is your ego? He's been playing probably five times longer than me and has four extra shafts in his cue case. I waxed him two to one.

Should I just look at this as a chance to practice kick and masse' shots?

On the other hand I'd have a lot of respect for a two way miss/safe.

:eek:
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Okay...turn things around on him. Start pushing his balls against the rail against other balls to give him clusters along a rail so he doesn't have ducks to shoot at.

This will teach yourself, plus teach him what to do (or not do) with ball in hand.

If you get good enough, he might not play safe on you anymore.:thumbup:
 
PGHteacher said:
Humm don’t want to sound insulting but uh why are you giving up the table when you can be safed so easily so often? Sounds like you made some mistakes against a player ½ your speed and he (rightly so) knew this and tried to get some games out of you by out maneuvering you because he recognized that he couldn’t out shoot you.

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Frankly I like playing with people that get annoyed by multiple safeties; it’s a weakness that can be used against an opponent very effectively.
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Sometimes I have to give up the table but maybe you never have to.;)

It's only effective against a weak opponent. And, being annoyed doesn't change my game.
 
I played a guy other night in APA. I love to play defense. This had no rhyme or reason, though. He would safe me, I give him ball in hand, and he would safe me again. All the while he had shots he could make. I understand trying to get your balls open, but he would actually create more clusters and trouble areas, when he was safing me after ball in hand. Sometimes people try to look smarter then they actually are, on the felt.
 
risky biz said:
Playing 8-ball for funsies and he keeps safe-blipping the cue ball behind his numerous object balls still on the table when there are shots he could take?
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Since "funsies" is the key word in this post I would like to comment and say that although I personally don't mind ANY type of shot my opponent may shoot against me in a "play-for-play" format, I think the games for fun are the best time to work on things that you may not feel comfortable trying to do in a game/match where something is on the line. That said, if he needs to work on his safety game, well...............

Usually, the only time I will play safety in a "for fun" game is when there is absolutely little chance of me making a ball on a shot attempt (unless I'm playing some schmuck that I really enjoy beating, then the gloves come off :D).

Maniac
 
Quit being a ***** and if you don't like how he plays Don't play him.

Problem solved, on to the next one.
 
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