Earl vs. Shane

Give me a break

ceebee said:
i don't watch the sports channels. None of the pro sports (baseball, football, basketball, soccer) ever got a dime from me.

I was a golf professional for a few years & now i'm in the pool business. I like to watch the matches in pool & billiards, no time for golf.

As far as the earl vs svb match goes, if earl is restrained, he can't beat svb. If you have to shark someone, to beat them, you can't beat them.

Next time if earl gets out of his seat or says anything, it's loss of game & svb gets the break.

Use a neutral person to rack the balls. One adjustment allowed.

Playing on that p.o.s. Table is a joke. Next time the rolls will go the other way & we'll get to hear some real crying & moaning, similar to a "pig under a gate".

I'd like to hear some good mc's roaming thru the crowd, maybe even some conversations with folks who have a big stake in the game, maybe even visit with a few railbirds.
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you are talking out your ass & you are wrong.

Shane thought he could win the match until about the time earl got to 94. The sharking is not what caused shane to lose the match.

SLIM
 
Billy Billy Billy

billychips said:
You are calling me a nit and you had to share a $100 bet with someone? Wow you have tons of gamble. If Earl plays Shane on a 9 footer like he agreed to, I will give you 3-1 odds again, with one stipulation. You have to go all in. Now who is the nit, NIT!
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I think your bet was 6 to one odds when it first came out so who's the Nit?
 
ChicagoRJ said:
QUOTE: Snake Pilsken: "If anyone wants to make an analogy between Earl's behavior during the TAR match with Shane and other professioal athlete's behavior in an attempt to defend Earl, you are functioning at about a third grade level.


QUOTE: ChicagoRJ: Well, if you actually read the posts thoroughly, nobody, including myself mentioned his actions were justified. But certainly not the reason pool is where it is because of his behavior.

I only asked the simple question of how come those who are bad mouthing Earl, show up to NBA and NFL games when the players are so much worse, including criminal convictions for murder, rape, dog drownings, gun charges, violently attacking fans in the stands, drug usage, drug selling and drugged up hookers, etc. etc. (do I really need to go on?)

Why does everyone's moral and principled ethics only apply to the always "principled and ethical" game of billiards? No pun intended...

I only asked why don't the "haters" come on and tell me that they DO NOT watch NOR support any NFL or NBA games. Yet, nobody spoke up. The silence was quite deafening to me.

It sounds like there is a lot of moral ambiguity by some of the "haters". You can't have it both ways. Players actions in the NFL are supported by you as well as by the mega sponsors and the TV networks, etc. etc. Earl talks trash and you want him hung by his toenails, he is accused of being the problem with pool today, and the lack of sponsors is his personal undoing. Really?

So, again, I'm just asking how many of you have abandoned the NFL and NBA due to your demand for principled behavior on the field or on the table? Anyone ? Somebody?

I just thought it was the height of hypocrisy and pointed it out. And it was JMHO. You can hate Earl, but be consistent in your quest for perfect athletes in todays world.

I'll take Earl over the NBA or NFL every day and twice on Sunday. Earl is a catholic school girl compared to the trash that is allowed to play in NBA and NFL.
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The NFL players are not waiving their guns, snorting their drugs, drowning their dogs, and beating their hookers while competing in their professional sport and being broadcast to a national audience. If this did happen, I guarantee there would be serious ramifications, and indeed there have been players suspended and fired for their conduct "OFF duty," let alone ON, which fits Earl's case being discussed. Obviously, the public has much less knowledge of a person's conduct while behind closed doors, than they have if they are paying to watch it on video. This analogy is seriously flawed. Please reboot.
 
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we all have a nose & an opinion. You are welcome to yours. I'll stand by my opinion.
 
I wonder if anybody who won money on Earl sent him a little jelly roll.

:rotflmao1::rotflmao1::rotflmao1:
 
Just curious?

ceebee said:
we all have a nose & an opinion. You are welcome to yours. I'll stand by my opinion.
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i apologize for the t.o.y.a. Comment, that was not necessary.
On what do you base your opinion?
Is it a dislike for earl?
Do you really think shane was bothered by earl's crap?
They both shot on the same table under the same conditions.

SLIM
 
billychips said:
Did you bet on your classless hero?
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He ain't my hero. I guess you ain't been 'round these parts in recent times. :grin-square:

If I had bet, though, I would have bet on Earl because, as a veteran player on a variety of equipment, he had the edge. I heard that Earl used to play snooker in his younger life. That was a popular game down South years ago. Plus, he played on the 10-footers in Detroit when he was up-and-coming.

Older players do adjust to equipment much quicker than the younger players, and then there's Earl's experience on the 10-footers. He had the edge. It didn't mean it was a slam-dunk, though.

I do wonder. Did Earl play good, or did Shane have a bad day? Good players can't win every time, you know. Everybody has a bad day, even Shane. :)
 
JAM said:
He ain't my hero. I guess you ain't been 'round these parts in recent times. :grin-square:

If I had bet, though, I would have bet on Earl because, as a veteran player on a variety of equipment, he had the edge. I heard that Earl used to play snooker in his younger life. That was a popular game down South years ago. Plus, he played on the 10-footers in Detroit when he was up-and-coming.

Older players do adjust to equipment much quicker than the younger players, and then there's Earl's experience on the 10-footers. He had the edge. It didn't mean it was a slam-dunk, though.

I do wonder. Did Earl play good, or did Shane have a bad day? Good players can't win every time, you know. Everybody has a bad day, even Shane. :)
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Honestly after the first few hours on Friday I couldnt take watching Earl act like that and didnt watch another game. I just find it funny how all of these Earl nuthuggers come on here and run there mouth after the match is over saying they knew that he was going to win. Earl is a complete douchebag and deserves ZERO respect from anyone. I am just glad I wasnt there.
 
billychips said:
Honestly after the first few hours on Friday I couldnt take watching Earl act like that and didnt watch another game. I just find it funny how all of these Earl nuthuggers come on here and run there mouth after the match is over saying they knew that he was going to win. Earl is a complete douchebag and deserves ZERO respect from anyone. I am just glad I wasnt there.
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Just touching on the topic of odds, this is how I see it.

Older players are used to playing on shoddy equipment. That is one reason, as a matter of fact, why the Filipinos are so good. They used to play 15-ball rotation on uneven tables with holes in the cloth and different-sized balls. When they came to the States and played a shortened game of 9-ball rotation on pristine equipment, they ruled the roost.

I don't think that today's players experienced as much of that crappy equipment as often as those who traveled the circuit in yesteryear. It does allow the player who has seasoning to adjust much quicker. In this respect, it gives a player like Earl that edge, so to speak, against someone like Shane.

I don't bet on pool unless I'm there in person as a rule, and even then, I have selective gambling habits. Because of my work schedule, I'm unable to watch Ustreams very often. I'm usually asleep when they are in progress. I get up at 3 and 4 a.m. sometimes. It's how I roll.
 
Hmmmm

Mr Hoppe said:
The NFL players are not waiving their guns, snorting their drugs, drowning their dogs, and beating their hookers while competing in their professional sport and being broadcast to a national audience. If this did happen, I guarantee there would be serious ramifications, and indeed there have been players suspended and fired for their conduct "OFF duty," let alone ON, which fits Earl's case being discussed. Obviously, the public has much less knowledge of a person's conduct while behind closed doors, than they have if they are paying to watch it on video. This analogy is seriously flawed. Please reboot.
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C'mon Hoppe !!

Really, they never go into the stands to attack fans? They never throw baseballs at fans? You mean Jordan never trashed talked anyone and tried to use it to his advantage in a playoff game? They never intentionally try and harm their opponent with a 95mph fastball to the head? They are not taking drugs, before, during or after games? Baseball and football players never get into actual physical fights with their opponents? Baseball managers never jump in to fight the other coaches and players and right in front of the little kiddies watching the game?

And their "off the field" actions show their true character, does it not? and we know exactly what happened behind closed doors. I don't need to see dogs actually being drowned to understand it. Or see someones girlfriend get her teeth bashed in or see somebody shoot some dude in a bar.

C'mon Hoppe, you know, I know, everyone knows how bad it is in the pro main stream sports. But we have one guy in a fringe sport that nobody outside of pool even knows, almost getting his nuts kicked in over some trash talking and some antics. As far as his personal life, I don't know much about Earl, and I'm betting no gun charges, arrests for drugs, or beating his wife or kicking his dog.

All I'm saying is try and put a little perspective in this whole thing. If you are a NFL, NBA, and MLB fan, and none of that bothers you, how could some minor antics throw all the rail birds here into such a hissy fit? It just makes no sense to me. Making this guy out to be the anti-christ is what "is seriously flawed".

My logic is NOT flawed in the least. If you are throwing Earl under the bus, but giving a free pass to the losers in the mainstream sports, that is the pretty hypocritical. You can't even agree that the main stream sports are filled with cons and trash and now you defend it because it is behind closed doors! And now I expertly pointed out that it is NOT in fact all behind closed doors? Whoops, time to change your Earl bashing strategy. Just when you thought you had me I come back with some more facts to chew on.....yikes !!
 
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EZMoney said:
If you ck your records, I did bet then with KK9, so who's doing the CrawFish. Have you lost confidence in your boy or gained respect for Mr. Stricklands game?
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billychips said:
If anyone really thinks that Earl has a chance at this game, please rob me. I will give up 3-1 on the money and take Shane. If Shane loses, I pay off and if Shane plays the second set on the nine footer, I get to bet the same amount and the second time I will lay 6-1. So, if you really think Earl can win, and he cant, bet at least 100 to win 300. Wow if anyone bets I feel like it is a late Christmas present. Oh, and by the way, 15 years ago Shane would still hijack Earl.
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Looks like you're right EZMoney.
 
ChicagoRJ said:
C'mon Hoppe !!

Really, they never go into the stands to attack fans? They never throw baseballs at fans? You mean Jordan never trashed talked anyone and tried to use it to his advantage in a playoff game? They never intentionally try and harm their opponent with a 95mph fastball to the head? They are not taking drugs, before, during or after games? Baseball and football players never get into actual physical fights with their opponents? Baseball managers never jump in to fight the other coaches and players and right in front of the little kiddies watching the game?

And their "off the field" actions show their true character, does it not? and we know exactly what happened behind closed doors. I don't need to see dogs actually being drowned to understand it. Or see someones girlfriend get her teeth bashed in or see somebody shoot some dude in a bar.

C'mon Hoppe, you know, I know, everyone knows how bad it is in the pro main stream sports. But we have one guy in a fringe sport that nobody outside of pool even knows, almost getting his nuts kicked in over some trash talking and some antics. As far as his personal life, I don't know much about Earl, and I'm betting no gun charges, arrests for drugs, or beating his wife or kicking his dog.

All I'm saying is try and put a little perspective in this whole thing. If you are a NFL, NBA, and MLB fan, and none of that bothers you, how could some minor antics throw all the rail birds here into such a hissy fit? It just makes no sense to me. Making this guy out to be the anti-christ is what "is seriously flawed".

My logic is NOT flawed in the least. If you are throwing Earl under the bus, but giving a free pass to the losers in the mainstream sports, that is the pretty hypocritical. You can't even agree that the main stream sports are filled with cons and trash and now you defend it because it is behind closed doors! And now I expertly pointed out that it is NOT in fact all behind closed doors? Whoops, time to change your Earl bashing strategy. Just when you thought you had me I come back with some more facts to chew on.....yikes !!
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You can beat on this all you want Chicago, it's a public forum but you need to go and take a logic class like the guy said, it's flawed, so far out of proportion that it's not even worth debating about.
 
Hmmm

paksat said:
You can beat on this all you want Chicago, it's a public forum but you need to go and take a logic class like the guy said, it's flawed, so far out of proportion that it's not even worth debating about.
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Well then, please describe the flaws in detail since you know so much. Please, I'd love to here it.

But you have not even answered the question of why you still watch main stream sports with all the criminals and thugs. I asked that many posts ago, but when you can't win your argument you just ignore the facts.

And no you won't answer, I just expect you to disappear again, because that's what trolls do, they make a quick hit, and an insult and then off they go back under the bridge. LMAO...
 
ChicagoRJ said:
Well then, please describe the flaws in detail since you know so much. Please, I'd love to here it.

But you have not even answered the question of why you still watch main stream sports with all the criminals and thugs. I asked that many posts ago, but when you can't win your argument you just ignore the facts.

And no you won't answer, I just expect you to disappear again, because that's what trolls do, they make a quick hit, and an insult and then off they go back under the bridge. LMAO...
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Yes I did, in the pm i've covered what I will cover for you

And that's called being smart, you ever heard that phrase don't argue with an idiot?

Not calling you one though, I would never haha.
 
Hmmm

paksat said:
Yes I did, in the pm i've covered what I will cover for you

And that's called being smart, you ever heard that phrase don't argue with an idiot?

Not calling you one though, I would never haha.
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Because you don't have the balls to put them here in the forum so we can see your weak argument. Just tell me what the flaw is? You've been dodging this one for awhile now and now I got you in a tight spot and you don't know what to do. That's OK....you don't have to bring your "logic" here.

PS: If you want to take an IQ test, post the money with the forum leaders and the best man wins, I'm in for any amount you can come with. This here is a NO LIMIT offer, and only for you.... nobody else. You IN ??
If you accept we can work out the details later. Just want to make sure you Man up first. You pick the amount? Whatever you want to bring I will cover AND give you 2-1 on your money. And please, don't forget, you insulted my intelligenge first, so rather than respond in kind, lets see what you got? Live stream maybe??
 
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