Earl vs. Shane
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Another Earl thread......AmazingThis is definately "earl.com."
Its not a thread. Its a reply in a thread entitled "Earl vs. Shane" I just added my opinion to it, since its a public forum.
I want you to know this is exactly why I don't care too much for any of the "major" professional sports today. I have lost so much respect for far too many of these whining, self obsessed millionaires to care any more. To often they behave like the rules governing our society don't apply to them. They pretty much do what they want when they want, merely because they are rich and famous. Like that makes them better than the rest of us.
Why should I support them by buying tickets to see them play. And I rarely do any more, whereas years ago I was going to multiple games all season long. I simply don't care any more who is playing or which team will make the playoffs. I find myself watching mostly golf and tennis these days.
The same principles that have caused me to lose respect for other athletes probably applies to Earl as well. I find his behavior extremely distasteful and insulting, and for that reason I'm not a fan of his. I am definitely not one of the people who would buy a ticket to watch him play. Of course sometimes I don't have a choice but to watch him.
But please don't use the bad behavior of other athletes in other sports as an excuse for Earl's total lack of class. To compare him with athletes who have been criminals or the like is not an apt comparison, and not germane to this discussion anyway. I think the key question is whether you or anyone else finds his behavior acceptable during the course of this match. Personally it makes little difference to me if Pool is a major or minor sport. My feeling is that professional pool, like professional golf or tennis, should not allow this type of behavior and not condone it in any way, shape or form. I don't think that allowing a player to carry on like this is the best way to showcase our sport to any audience, be they big or small.
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The Denver Nuggets coach feels the same way, and now with his ''team'' back he's got his life back, why, it's because of players that think they are bigger than the game are now gone, and he can coach again.
There are many college coaches in different disciplines that won't venture into professional sport ''because'' of this type of behavior and attitude. Just think how much MORE Earl could do for the game if he acted just the opposite. It is probably why in my eyes he'll never reach his true game potential life Efren has. Many in the states condone this type of behavior, probably because they see it in media on an hour to hour basis and think its acceptable.
It just feels like we have another Lohan or a Rodman without tattoos trying to represent our sport.
Wonder what Irving Crane would say to Earl if he saw his behavior.
To me, its a man child crying out for lack of recognition/attention and reward, sad but true.
Having gambled and played Earl in 79 or 80 (over a 5-6 hr period), he never once acted like this as a young man, wonder how he evolved into this different personality. Maybe its lack of education, he could not of been more than 19-20 yrs old when he came through Los Angeles in the late 70's and I think he's been on the road ever since.
Never have seen anyone swing a cue so straight and powerful at the same time, but that alone does not condone this behavior.
Where would the PGA Masters be if it weren't for Bobby Jones and his demeanor and great behavior?
I put the Elephant in the room on all the pro players backs, its up to them collectively to raise public awareness of how our game equals golf in all aspects of difficulty, gamesmanship and character.
Not sure if it's the same incident, but the last "major" camera incident with Tiger resulted in Tiger hulking the camera out of the cameraman's hands and throwing it in an adjacent pond.
If Earl were to hulk a camera out of an onlooker's hand and bashing it, we'd all be gasping for air. I'm NOT defending Earl OR Tiger.... I'm just saying there's a double-standard with Earl. He's WAY better behaved than athletes in much larger sports.
Does he behave well? Of course not. Is he the worst out there... NO WAY. Am I an Earl fan?? OF COURSE.
People need to get off his shit. He'll never change and like it or not--- people come want to watch him more than the next guy and that's the bottom line truth. End of story.
Dave
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I don't want to ever watch him again.
But I have respect for you spider, i'm glad to see you sticking up for what you believe
Irving Crane was a fine man, a man of dignity and honor. I guarantee you that if he saw Earl acting like that he would turn on his heels and leave the room immediately. Talk to Earl - no way!
If Earl had tried this with Joe Balsis, he would have been broken in two. Or maybe a few more pieces.
I would bet that Earl minded his manners in Texas if he ever played Jersey Red. Another guy who would never put up with that nonsense.
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With Earl, as it is with Tiger, as it was with McEnroe and almost all other less than well behaved professional atheletes... If you play the game as well or better than anyone else, tons of people are gonna pay to see you play.
I agree with you 1000%. The fans paid for their seating and their "snacks" Earl set the tempo on Friday night before the match by telling everyone to keep their mouths shut.Then he goes and insults the crap out of Shane Vanboning.Even the fans who came there for Earl turned on him.Earl would fare better if he Duct taped his mouth.
That did not happen.
none of earl's fans turned on him.
Some of us were embarrassed by his behavior.
We were also embarrassed by the couple of people in the audience who acted like asses.
SLIM
none of earl's fans turned on him.
Some of us were embarrassed by his behavior.
We were also embarrassed by the couple of people in the audience who acted like asses.
SLIM
**** earrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl!!! ****
Or simulate dropping his pants and mooning those fans, or squirt water at a ref, or head to the locker room when his team's getting their asses kicked (wtg, Skins!), or knocking down a meter lady with his car, or ripping into sponsors on the team bus.......I'll let you know when I think Earl's antics are the end of the world..K?
And you bet your @ss he got fined.
Just stop.
And if he did get away with one of them, that means the case is no different then Earls.. he should have been penalized
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And that's just one NFL player.
There are obviously countless more. From all the big televised (successful) sports.
None of that justifies any of them, or Earl, acting poorly. The reason for these comparisons are to clearly point this out to those intent on blaming Earl for pro mens pools lack of success or visibility. Or that such behavior is going to prevent future success or sponsorship. It simply isn't true.
For a sport to attract financial sponsorship, it needs one thing - fan (potential customer) attention. One or two players acting inappropriately isn't going to prevent that, unless the offense is WAY over the line. Meaning criminal, for the most part. It took the discovery of MAJOR marital infidelity to get sponsors to drop Tiger Woods, and even then not all of his sponsors followed suit. A temper tantrum isn't in the same league.
One or two bad boys (or ladies, given this mornings thread) won't change a potential sponsor. If they were interested in using pool as a vehicle to attract potential customers, Earl isn't gonna scare them away. He generates "buzz", and advertisers/sponsors really like "buzz".
Again, I don't condone it. I just don't think it's such as much of a travesty as many others here do.