F/S Joe Porper model B lathe

It had been a while and Joey reminded me of that one.
Dave 38 also jogged my memory re Dave buying up equipment.

As soon as he was out of the hospital, supposedly, he was making purchases
in the Machinery Forum like they were going out of style.

I had thought, for a person that needed money for medical bills for a major operation such as a kidney removal, he seemed to have an abundance of extra cash left over.

It was a classless move on his part, throwing it in peoples faces to be on a buying spree shortly afterward.

I don't think anyone would accuse Dave of being the brightest crayon in the box anyhow.

And there is no doubt that he is reading this thread.

The Gov takes it seriously when collecting money for a fake disability and running a cash under the table business on the side.

Good luck with that Dave.

Hope he does well with his best buddy, the Tool Box Lathe.
 
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See, this is what I say about going to other levels. The Tool Box Lathe is by Bassel. It is an assumption Bassel was paid for his stuff. I heard he was not. I have sold Bassel Tips, does that put me next in line? This how wars start, c'mon.
 
Needless to say I'm quite disappointed in Dave. I don't know him but thought he was a nice guy helping people by showing how he made a leather cue wrap jig and posting on YouTube how he installed cue tips. He was criticized about making a wrap jig and I stated that it was unfair. Boy, was I wrong. I'm always looking at the good in people and sometimes overlook their weaknesses. It's a shame that people can't be honest and respect the rights of others. Again, I'm so disappointed and sad. If Dave is reading this, you let a lot of people down. Please do right and return the man's money.
 
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He's a douche bag extrodinaire.......that will never come back here under the same name. He probably will try another username, hopefully, Dave W and Mike will flag his IP and others will watch for his MO.... One thing I find interesting, is that NO ONE has come to his defense, including a certain person, whom Dave defended for the same offence, not delievering on a sale....and then suddenly had a benchtop lathe to post youtube videos....interesting how birds of a feather....leave each other....lol
Dave
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Dave , the you tube videos are almost 3 years old, using them to take a shot at me is very low. a lot has happened in 3 years. making wild assumptions and ignorant conclusions is not wise on your end. If you have something to say to me just call me or post on my thread. I would like to ask you nicely to edit your post. You need to get your facts straight, Tom, and Paul koans what happened between me and Dave, I chose to to make it public, but in very few words, he got me for couple of lathes to say the least. I chose to write them off as a loss on my taxes last year, in hopes that karma will get him back, which it did. I Hope you do the right thing here
Thanks
 
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It doesn't appear that Dave is going to be logging in to answer for all of this.

If he wants to be reinstated as a member, he can email me.

Mike
 
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Dave , the you tube videos are almost 3 years old, using them to take a shot at me is very low. a lot has happened in 3 years. making wild assumptions and ignorant conclusions is not wise on your end. If you have something to say to me just call me or post on my thread. I would like to ask you nicely to edit your post. You need to get your facts straight, Tom, and Paul koans what happened between me and Dave, I chose to to make it public, but in very few words, he got me for couple of lathes to say the least. I chose to write them off as a loss on my taxes last year, in hopes that karma will get him back, which it did. I Hope you do the right thing here
Thanks
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He scammed you out of a couple lathes??? With all due respect, and I do respect you, why on earth would you not make a big deal about it here? Maybe I missed it??? I'm SURE Paul didn't know or he wouldn't have sent him 3 grand....

The ONLY thing that protects members on here are other members....

That reminds me to bump the Geof "the scambag" thread....
 
Bassell, if Dave got you for a couple of lathes, why didn't you post it up.

If you had have done that, the chances are good that Dave wouldn't have been here trying to do business with others.

This mess could have been quite possibly avoided. Water under the bridge now.
 
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It doesn't appear that Dave is going to be logging in to answer for all of this.

If he wants to be reinstated as a member, he can email me.

Mike
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Mike,
Thanks for that. I also appreciate the fact you didn't ban him sooner, your actions allowed us to keep at least one line of communcation open, even though he chose not to use it.
Paul
 
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customcuelathe said:
Dave , the you tube videos are almost 3 years old, using them to take a shot at me is very low. a lot has happened in 3 years. making wild assumptions and ignorant conclusions is not wise on your end. If you have something to say to me just call me or post on my thread. I would like to ask you nicely to edit your post. You need to get your facts straight, Tom, and Paul koans what happened between me and Dave, I chose to to make it public, but in very few words, he got me for couple of lathes to say the least. I chose to write them off as a loss on my taxes last year, in hopes that karma will get him back, which it did. I Hope you do the right thing here
Thanks
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Bassell,
What happened to you was unfortunate but know that karma is dead on his heels, and not in a good way:smile:
Paul
 
I just received a message on Face Book from a person that I had sent a message too.

I will blank the persons name to keep it private. No need to have Dave know if he reads this. Altho, it didn't seem like they really cared that much. Obviously his relatives and friends already know.

this is ************* he is a con artist he owes a ton of ppl money hes in pekin ill
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This is how I received the return message, with no punctuation.

I sent them a reply thanking them for getting back to me and their honesty.

I have no idea as to why he would pick a place to return to where people
already know what he is all about and he has ripped them off too.

I happened to mention the fact that Dave had solicited donations on AZ for hospital bills incurred re the kidney operation. We will see if they decide to get back to me and confirm whether this is a fact or was a scam.

So, if there was any doubt that the Porper lathe deal might be an isolated incident, I guess we know better now.
 
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A while back he ran what turns out to be a scam about being sick and needing help. I sent him five Adam, Helmstetter butts. Never heard from him. At the time he seemed very friendly with Bassel whom I had met at a Billiard tournament. As it turns out he took everybody, including Bassel.

It makes it hard to help people in need.

Mario
 
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A while back he ran what turns out to be a scam about being sick and needing help. I sent him five Adam, Helmstetter butts. Never heard from him. At the time he seemed very friendly with Bassel whom I had met at a Billiard tournament. As it turns out he took everybody, including Bassel.

It makes it hard to help people in need.

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Mario,
I agree. But I also know there are peole out there that do need help and are honest. Like I've said in previous posts, My local pool hall holds charity events all the time for people in need. The one thing that has never happened and will never happen us asking for "outside" donations. The pool hall on the day of the event has the "recipients" on site so all the players and people who donate get to meet them. It's usually for local players, etc.. For us, it's an unwritten rule, that even the prize money is given back. So don't let Dave ruin anything for you.
Paul
 
Bummer

WOW, guess I need to stop by here more. Didn't know this happened. I am pretty sure I've done at least one deal with Dave without issue. Hope that guy gets his money back. I am not sure what would P me O more, giving him free stuff to help with his medical bills or getting ripped off a lathe?!

I believe the buyer said he paid via PP, if so there is a good chance he can get his money back thru them. Good luck!!!
 
One of his relatives got back to me on Face Book and said that they were not aware of any operation that Dave had.

So maybe, maybe not. I had heard that he did in fact have an op, but the hospital had a fund that Dave qualified for. Therefore, if thats what happened, Dave did solicit donations that were not really needed. Its all hearsay and assumptions but I believe its fair to say that there was a certain amount of Monkey Business going on perpetuated by Dave.

One thing is almost certain, and that is he is collecting disability benefits and if he is, if Paul goes thru with his plan, it will be investigated.

Scum was one word that was used. Among others. Not so pretty. Pretty bad when your own flesh and blood, use the term, Scum, when referring to you.
 
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I intend to report Dave to every agency that will listen to me. Disability fraud is someone that affects a lot as it's federally funded.

I also intend to "warn" all surrounding pool halls and billiard supply distributors I can find within a 50 mile radius of Pekin. Some say, you're getting your money back, let it go. I also say those same people haven't had to deal with.something like this.

At the end of the day, I hope Dave Hedrick will think twice about his actions. If he doesn't and Dave continues, maybe someone else will do the same.
 
For your own personal well being and emotions, those are good words to follow. One thing that I have learned is that those type of feelings can eat away at you and its not hard to become obsessed. This can be very disruptive in our own lives.

On the other hand, sometimes people care enuff about others. They just went thru the grind and to take the time to do something about it so maybe others in the future won't have to go down the same road as yourself is commendable as well.

I know that to some, it may seem as being vindictive and it can be part that and just not wanting to see it happen to the next guy that Dave befriends.

Learning a hard lesson this way might be much better than getting the business end of a ball peen hammer on the back of his head some night.
 
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Dave

He scammed me about 1 - 1 1/2 years ago. Did not respond for a few weeks and then said his Mother in law had a heart attack. Which I heard he had used a few times prior. Wonder how great that new shop is going. Think he's rolling in the cash? Maybe its time to move again? What a joke! There is many others on AZ that he has done this to.
 
people

Sad how some people force judgment upon themselfs.
Dave if you are a real man then pay the man back his money and start making things right.
MMike
 
Hey folks. This is my last post concerning this thread. Just wanted all to know, I got my refund. Evidently when this happened it was extracted from Dave's uncles account who contacted me promptly. After I sent his uncle the link to the thread, I explained I would be a man of my word and honor what I said I would do earlier. Which was still buy the lathe but only pay after it was shipped and verified it was as described which was in "great" shape, due to be delivered tomorrow. I only did this because I felt as though Dave's uncle kinda got caught in the middle of Dave and his shennanigans.

I still went through with my original plan , with the exception of the fraud charges, everything else was and is a go. Thanks for all the support, it made me want to pay for an annual subscription so we can continue to "do what we do" and continue to try and keep the riff raff out:thumbup:
 
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