F/S Joe Porper model B lathe

pop-ralph said:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=297085

If you look at post #5 in the above thread you will see Dave and the lathe in his new shop! (Pekin,Ill.).:rolleyes:
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That is back in Nov before he listed it. The fact he or his wife haven't returned any calls in the last 3 weeks is suspicious.

Yah, the guy is in the hospital. I know. It only takes a day to crate and ship a lathe though and It was sold 22 days ago.

Either way, I don't think a phone call or a return phone call is an unreasonable expectation. May has his phone apparently and, since she is speaking for him(again), could have had a conversation to quell all this.
 
kunin35 said:
David E Hedrick Sr
12507 State Route 29

Pekin, IL 61554-8043

Hmmm... I wonder if this is his address, gonna need to know this stuff to help my CC Company
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You don't need to help you CC Company with anything. All they care about is money and probably have more resources than you can imagine.

I've been in your spot before, but I don't recommend posting the guy's personal information. You are going overboard.

Filing with the CC company should be enough for now. I KNOW it is difficult....just try to stay level headed. I am speaking from experience..
 
pescadoman said:
You don't need to help you CC Company with anything. All they care about is money and probably have more resources than you can imagine.

I've been in your spot before, but I don't recommend posting the guy's personal information. You are going overboard.

Filing with the CC company should be enough for now. I KNOW it is difficult....just try to stay level headed. I am speaking from experience..
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You're probably right. That was just something I pulled from whitepages.
 
kunin35 said:
You're right. My original thought was he was living in texas because of the area code and his bio on his website which was working about a week ago, but his wife said today they were back in pekin and his post showing his new shop says the same, but at this point who knows:confused:
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Kunin35, Dave is not in tx any more. Let me see if I can call him. He has been to my shop a few times when he was in Tx. Give me a few mins or you can call me on my cell 214 603 8050. I have not talked to Dave in some time.
 
Dave,
I just tried calling you and you answered and hung up on me all 7 times. Why not just take my call?
 
I do understand what appears to be going on. I have made many friends on this forum and most will go out of there way to do the right thing.

I truly hope this works out as it is a nose bleed. I hope it does as I like to think the best of all.
 
TomHay said:
I do understand what appears to be going on. I have made many friends on this forum and most will go out of there way to do the right thing.

I truly hope this works out as it is a nose bleed. I hope it does as I like to think the best of all.
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Tom,
I like to think the best of everyone as well but sometimes they prove you wrong.
 
Simple question

Why put the lathe up for sale?........The old saying is true (Most of the bologna in our lives we make for ourselves) Very sorry for your trouble ....I hope you get your money back.......SOOOOOON...........Ray Weeks
 
cuewould said:
Why put the lathe up for sale?........The old saying is true (Most of the bologna in our lives we make for ourselves) Very sorry for your trouble ....I hope you get your money back.......SOOOOOON...........Ray Weeks
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I appreciate it.:thumbup:
 
Now that

Wayne-Holmes said:
Don't ya just hate it when people don't do what they say they will :frown:[/

Is someone who acted just like you did when you agreed to sell me the inlay machine and showed me what came with it for the price I paid you. And then called me to come get it a few weeks later in a big hurry with the box and inlay machine on a dolly. Telling me you had to hurry out to dinner but boy was I surprised when I got home and saw how much stuff you had cheated me out of. You got me for 5 or 6 hundred so do the right thing and send me a paypal Wayne. You got a lot of nerve saying anything about someone else cause your plan was on purpose not just a mistake.--Leonard (no kin) Holmes
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kunin35 said:
Dave,
I just tried calling you and you answered and hung up on me all 7 times. Why not just take my call?
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15 more tries, and the same so I left a VM after you cut your phone off. Looking forward to your return phone call.:thumbup:
 
kunin35 said:
15 more tries, and the same so I left a VM after you cut your phone off. Looking forward to your return phone call.:thumbup:
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44 more tries and you answer but don't say hello, then we get disconnected. Must be a bad connection, you must be in an area without a lot of cell towers, I'll give you a chance to get to a better location and I'll try again later:thumbup:. BTW I left you a VM.
 
kunin35 said:
44 more tries and you answer but don't say hello, then we get disconnected. Must be a bad connection, you must be in an area without a lot of cell towers, I'll give you a chance to get to a better location and I'll try again later:thumbup:. BTW I left you a VM.
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call blockers have an option to answer and hang up automatically. Have someone from a different number call and see if the result differs..
 
poolcuemaster said:
Is someone who acted just like you did when you agreed to sell me the inlay machine and showed me what came with it for the price I paid you. And then called me to come get it a few weeks later in a big hurry with the box and inlay machine on a dolly. Telling me you had to hurry out to dinner but boy was I surprised when I got home and saw how much stuff you had cheated me out of. You got me for 5 or 6 hundred so do the right thing and send me a paypal Wayne. You got a lot of nerve saying anything about someone else cause your plan was on purpose not just a mistake.--Leonard (no kin) Holmes
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Leonard, you need to get your facts straight before you make baseless accusations. Just for the record, and to refresh your obviously poor memory,

#1. You were shown everything that went with the machine BEFORE we agreed on the price.
#2. At that time I made you aware of the time frame that I needed the machine moved by and you agreed to it. I accepted a deposit from you and at that time
told you the deposit would be non-refundable if you failed to complete the purchase...You also agreed to that.
#3. Come time for the machine to be moved you hadn't called or made other arrangements so I called you to ask if you still wanted it. You then said you
would be by the next day or so to pick it up (which you did).
4. When you arrived at my shop the machine & the tool box was sitting on a work table, not on a dolly. The tool box was wide open and you rummaged through it asking
questions about how to make the stylus for it and which stylus to use with certain end mills. You also looked through all the end mills & various other items that I included.
If you felt there was something missing why didn't you make a comment then?

I do (clearly) remember you calling me a day or so later asking about a brass pattern I had made, and I reminded you that it was NEVER part of the sale.
If your memory serves well, you'll recall I did give you a copy of that particular pattern (even though I felt no obligation to) since I would have no further need of it.
Which leads to #5
#5. When you called asking about that brass pattern (that was NOT part of the sale) I offered you a FULL refund if you were not satisfied with the deal. You declined!

This was all done in March 2011. Why would you wait nearly two years before complaining?

You received everything that was supposed to go with the inlay machine and then some.
 
pescadoman said:
call blockers have an option to answer and hang up automatically. Have someone from a different number call and see if the result differs..
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He wasn't using call bolckers IMO because I could hear voices on a couple attempts and after several attempts it then goes to VM, But who knows. I just know that if he is still claiming to be such a stand up guy, why not answer my call or return them when I leave a VM.
 
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