Filipino musings

I have played pool now in dozens of little neighborhood poolrooms (they are virtually on every block) and have never had a problem. Granted I have played for relatively small stakes (anywhere from 50p to 1,000p a game), but have always had fun and made friends everywhere I went. In Pasay, they call me the "billiard guy", because I have been seen so frequently in the many poolrooms that dot that area. By the way, you can get action in nearly any pool hall. Usually with the best local players. So much like the USA of the 60's and 70's. .

Very entertaining story. I lived in Angeles City, Philippines from 1979-1982 and had tons of fun playing pool there. Efren Reyes was from Angeles City and Jose Parica was the Philipinne champion at that time.

There were tons of "locals" who played pretty good pool and they loved to gamble. Most of the barrio pool rooms were archaic, by our standards, and they played remarkably well on tables with concrete beds instead of slate and humidity in the rooms approaching 100%.

They used to bother me all the time to let them see my cue and let them shoot a game with it. The cue I was using at the time was a Richard Black Four Point and none of them had ever seen, much less used, a cue of that caliber.

I spent numerous hours playing pool there and played some of the best pool I ever played. Most of it was on 7-foot bar tables, so I don't know if it was really pool or not. I had the best run of 9-ball in my life playing there on a bar table...ran 22 out of 23 racks. I was playing 5 and 9 in a ring game with two or three other players and I broke and ran 13 racks before I missed the 7 ball on the 14th rack. The other guys were in comas or so tired from sitting around that they all missed the 7 and it came back to me. I then made the 7, 8, 9, and broke and ran 9 more racks before they all quit. We weren't playing for much, but it was enough that it was hard for me to get a game with them again after that.

I would love to go back and see what it is like now. I may do that one day if I get the opportunity.

Thanks for bringing back memories from a long time ago.
 
7' bar tables in the PI? A few people that have ben there in the last few years said you can't find a bb there. Johnnyt
 
7' bar tables in the PI? A few people that have ben there in the last few years said you can't find a bb there. Johnnyt

I forgot to mention that the table we were playing on was on Clark Air Base. There were Philippine made bar tables in lots of the bars when I lived there.
 
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Hi Jay,
hope you enjoy your stay over there. I'm from Belgium and my wife is Pinnay so I visit the Philippines regularly. Just like you I feel more safe over there then in my country, but be carefull in the smaller poolhalls especially when you go outside Manila. One time I played a young kid for something like 800p (peanuts for us but a large sum for people that earn just a couple of $/day) . Some people in the crowd were sure I was going to lose but I won and they were not happy with the result. I had a friend in the area and he told me afterwards that some guy's were planning to invite me for another game and then rob me. Bad things do happen over there but if you treat the people with respect and don't act foolish your pretty safe. As for the perverts, they are mostly foreigners. But anyway enjoy the sun, the pool, and the hospitallity.. wish I was there now :(


The girls are painfully shy.......until you get to know them! :D
Contrary to what you may have heard, compared to a major city in the USA, Manila and the Philippines in general is a very safe place. Even at night! Rarely is ANYONE attacked or robbed. It does happen, but usually to someone who is drunk and being loud or obnoxious.

I have played pool now in dozens of little neighborhood poolrooms (they are virtually on every block) and have never had a problem. Granted I have played for relatively small stakes (anywhere from 50p to 1,000p a game), but have always had fun and made friends everywhere I went. In Pasay, they call me the "billiard guy", because I have been seen so frequently in the many poolrooms that dot that area. By the way, you can get action in nearly any pool hall. Usually with the best local players. So much like the USA of the 60's and 70's.

Most of the time I play Rotation, the native game here. What a great game it is too, so much creativity and shot making (bank shots!) required to play well. I have a game tonight for 500p a game. They will be betting 1000's on the side, with some of the locals betting on me. Last time with this guy I broke even. He's almost my age, another senior citizen. :wink:

It's true there is poverty all around you here, with people sleeping outdoors everywhere you look. I suspect there are at least 500,000 homeless in Manila with another million near homeless. Some of their "homes" are no more then cardboard boxes joined together. I see kids playing unsupervised every day, on sidewalks and in small parks. And I mean young kids, like 2, 3, 4 and 5 years old. Where are the parents I ask? The mother is gone all day I'm told and the father has disappeared. The kids play among themselves all day and beg for money. And NO ONE bothers them. Believe it or not they are totally safe. I found this hard to believe at first but it's true. Any adults that are in the area keep an eye on the kids if any of them get hurt. They pretty much leave them alone unless they are needed.

We all know that in the USA, no child is left unsupervised, particularly in a public area. That's because we have so many more perverts and people that would take advantage of such a situation. When I inquired about such people here, no one really understands. People like that just don't seem to exist here. That kind of thing is not a problem they are familiar with - child molesting and such.

What you must look out for is the taxi drivers without metered cabs, trike drivers who won't quote you a price. They prey on foreigners, who are unfamiliar with the territory. I rode in a trike a short ride the other day, normally a 30-40p fare. I made the mistake of not asking beforehand and the young kid asked me for 150p. I told him the fare was worth no more than 40p and that was all I would give him. He took a belligerent stance and demanded 150p again. I asked him if he thought it was okay to rob all foreigners. I told to please call the police ('pulis' here). He looked at me funny and then he apologized, saying 40p was now okay. He didn't want any trouble because he could lose his license.

On every corner you will be accosted by street peddlers selling everything from Viagra, to fake Rolexes to counterfeit sliver dollars. I just wave them off and keep walking. They may follow you for a bit, but then they will drop off your tail. Goes with the territory, no big deal. More later, gotta go see my little Jalo now.
 
I had a great three weeks there last year. Watched tons of pool and played a little too!!

I felt safe the entire time I was there except the one time the taxi driver told me to lock my door, that we were going to take a back route that was't so safe!!! I kept my eyes peeled and nothing bad happened.

I only have to disagree with one point that Jay made. I have talked to many Filipina girls and it really surprised me how many had been raped by BF's or even male relatives. Not saying it is a common occurance or that the rates are higher there than anywhere else in the world. But just that it happens everywhere.

For anyone who loves pool, friendly people and great times, head to PI

:thumbup:
 
And I mean young kids, like 2, 3, 4 and 5 years old. Where are the parents I ask? The mother is gone all day I'm told and the father has disappeared. The kids play among themselves all day and beg for money. And NO ONE bothers them. Believe it or not they are totally safe. I found this hard to believe at first but it's true. Any adults that are in the area keep an eye on the kids if any of them get hurt. They pretty much leave them alone unless they are needed.

That is very sad. While they will learn to get street tough by fending for themselves, that is a life I wouldn't wish on anyone. Having a child in that age range, it breaks my heart picturing her in that situation and the life she would lead being raised like that.

I don't think I could see that and not give them all my money. Im a sucker.


What you must look out for is the taxi drivers without metered cabs, trike drivers who won't quote you a price. They prey on foreigners, who are unfamiliar with the territory. I rode in a trike a short ride the other day, normally a 30-40p fare. I made the mistake of not asking beforehand and the young kid asked me for 150p. I told him the fare was worth no more than 40p and that was all I would give him. He took a belligerent stance and demanded 150p again. I asked him if he thought it was okay to rob all foreigners. I told to please call the police ('pulis' here). He looked at me funny and then he apologized, saying 40p was now okay. He didn't want any trouble because he could lose his license.

He almost got you for $3!
 
For anyone planning to visit the Philippines, Jay's advice is solid :thumbup:

I'm an expat living in Pasay city, and I've played at just about all the corner bilyarans between Libertad & EDSA. Back in October, at a place on Taft Ave, I was asked if I know Jay. I don't of course, but had followed his last Manila trip report, and mentioned he gave them a plug on the net - they were genuinely happy to hear that.

For the most part these little bilyarans are all cool, but like anywhere, it really depends on how you carry yourself. Humbleness and modesty will take you a long way.
 
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The girls are painfully shy.......until you get to know them! :D
Contrary to what you may have heard, compared to a major city in the USA, Manila and the Philippines in general is a very safe place. Even at night! Rarely is ANYONE attacked or robbed. It does happen, but usually to someone who is drunk and being loud or obnoxious.

I have played pool now in dozens of little neighborhood poolrooms (they are virtually on every block) and have never had a problem. Granted I have played for relatively small stakes (anywhere from 50p to 1,000p a game), but have always had fun and made friends everywhere I went. In Pasay, they call me the "billiard guy", because I have been seen so frequently in the many poolrooms that dot that area. By the way, you can get action in nearly any pool hall. Usually with the best local players. So much like the USA of the 60's and 70's.

Most of the time I play Rotation, the native game here. What a great game it is too, so much creativity and shot making (bank shots!) required to play well. I have a game tonight for 500p a game. They will be betting 1000's on the side, with some of the locals betting on me. Last time with this guy I broke even. He's almost my age, another senior citizen. :wink:

It's true there is poverty all around you here, with people sleeping outdoors everywhere you look. I suspect there are at least 500,000 homeless in Manila with another million near homeless. Some of their "homes" are no more then cardboard boxes joined together. I see kids playing unsupervised every day, on sidewalks and in small parks. And I mean young kids, like 2, 3, 4 and 5 years old. Where are the parents I ask? The mother is gone all day I'm told and the father has disappeared. The kids play among themselves all day and beg for money. And NO ONE bothers them. Believe it or not they are totally safe. I found this hard to believe at first but it's true. Any adults that are in the area keep an eye on the kids if any of them get hurt. They pretty much leave them alone unless they are needed.

We all know that in the USA, no child is left unsupervised, particularly in a public area. That's because we have so many more perverts and people that would take advantage of such a situation. When I inquired about such people here, no one really understands. People like that just don't seem to exist here. That kind of thing is not a problem they are familiar with - child molesting and such.

What you must look out for is the taxi drivers without metered cabs, trike drivers who won't quote you a price. They prey on foreigners, who are unfamiliar with the territory. I rode in a trike a short ride the other day, normally a 30-40p fare. I made the mistake of not asking beforehand and the young kid asked me for 150p. I told him the fare was worth no more than 40p and that was all I would give him. He took a belligerent stance and demanded 150p again. I asked him if he thought it was okay to rob all foreigners. I told to please call the police ('pulis' here). He looked at me funny and then he apologized, saying 40p was now okay. He didn't want any trouble because he could lose his license.

On every corner you will be accosted by street peddlers selling everything from Viagra, to fake Rolexes to counterfeit sliver dollars. I just wave them off and keep walking. They may follow you for a bit, but then they will drop off your tail. Goes with the territory, no big deal. More later, gotta go see my little Jalo now.

i've always wanted to go the filipines but i've heard a lot of bad things about it. it wasn't that long ago that several americans were kidnapped from a resort and beheaded.
 
i've always wanted to go the filipines but i've heard a lot of bad things about it. it wasn't that long ago that several americans were kidnapped from a resort and beheaded.

When was that ?
The last one was a preacher who went to the mountains trying to convert muslims .
 
Jesus approves your Avatar Joey !!!!!!!! :thumbup:

The far southern parts of PI are NOT safe for most people.

Southern Mindinao and the South West Islands, Jolo and Sulu, etc...
 
When was that ?
The last one was a preacher who went to the mountains trying to convert muslims .

That was probably way back in 2003 when the bandit Muslim group Abu Sayyaf went and kidnapped resort guests in Dos Palmas Resort in Palawan, the southernmost province of Luzon (if you look at a Philippine map, it's that very long island to the east of the rest of the country. It's so remote that it's been called "the Philippines' Last Frontier"). They eventually killed the leader, Abu Sabaya, of that splinter group, in a chase that went on for several months over mountains and seas. Tourist arrivals dropped so low that a lot of establishments closed down. For a place where the only industries are tourism and agriculture (mining is only permitted in the southermost tip of the island), that was pretty devastating.

But now, thanks to the efforts of the local government and the private sector, tourism is back on track. Puerto Princesa, the Capital City of Palawan, has been honored as the country's Cleanest and Greenest City for 3 consecutive years and been placed in the Hall of Fame. Despite being the Philippines' largest province in terms of land area, it has the lowest population density and the lowest crime rate.

It is also home to two UNESCO World Heritage sites, the Tubattaha Reefs and the St. Paul Subterranean River (now more popularly known as the Puerto Princesa Underground River), which is in the running for inclusion in the online poll for the New Seven Wonders of Nature.

The long coastline translates to a number of excellent beaches, most still pristine and unexplored. It is only now that investors are coming, clued in by the increasing tourist arrivals year on year. As an ecological preserve, Palawan is also home to a wide variety of flora and fauna, mostly endemic to the country.

Not many good pool halls in the province, though. Still, the ones found in the City are pretty good (check out Kinabuch's Bar and Grill) frequented by locals and tourists alike. There is already a growing expat population, attracted by the simple life and beautiful beaches. Much like how Boracay was back in the 70s.
 
@salty: where from belgium are u from? i spent about 5 months per year in liege (studies) but havent found people to match up (mostly snooker players with terrible breaks etc :D)

would be happy to find also people there to play...
 
@salty: where from belgium are u from? i spent about 5 months per year in liege (studies) but havent found people to match up (mostly snooker players with terrible breaks etc :D)

would be happy to find also people there to play...

If you live in Belgium, you know that there is virtually 10 minutes drive to Holland and Germany. Lots of players and clubs there :grin:

Here is how you can find the name of Belgian players who can break the balls: Go to eurotour.nu, click on Tournament and then Players. Then click on the flag of the country you are interested in, lots of names will pop up.
 
well i usually play in luxembourg (passive member= free use of fresh clothed 9 foot dynamic II tables :D) but during my stays in liege.... nothing. i know that there r some players in the region of brussels but always get from liege to brussels to play 3 or 4 hours?

in holland i know weert, was there for a christmas open where a friend played. the house of billard is a really great place to play.
 
@salty: where from belgium are u from? i spent about 5 months per year in liege (studies) but havent found people to match up (mostly snooker players with terrible breaks etc :D)

would be happy to find also people there to play...

Hi there,
I live in Mechelen (Malines in french), that's between Antwerp and Brussels so stil a long way from Liege. Closer to you is Hasselt, they have a poolhall right in front of the trainstation. And also in Sint truiden Biljart lounge. Both verry nice places with tables in perfect shape.

Biljart lounge
Tramstraat 59
3800 Saint-Trond

the continous poolcafe
Stationsplein 7
3500 Hasselt
 
I think the biljart lounge is only 20 minutes driving from liege. In both of these clubs are players that compete in the Eurotour. Forget about Brussels, no decent poolhalls there. I usually play in Leuven (louvain) at The loft, they host the annual Benelux open. Players like Niels Feyen, Oliver Ortmann and manny others show up to compete. I think this is august or september this year.
Hope this is usefull to you.
Chris
 
What is that game they play over there that's basically carroms (with the discs) but played with pool cues? I saw a youtube video a while back with a bunch of guys playing it out in some rural area...you could see where filipino players get a penchant for kicking with that game...
 
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