For 1X2 Carriers, do you break with your playing cue?

jetlau3

jetlau3

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Do you guys who carry 1X2 cases break with your playing cue or a house cue?

I have always broken with my playing cue but I am playing a lot more than I used to and I think its starting to wear on my tip. I have a break cue but I hate carrying the 2X4 around..

Does anyone out there break with a second shaft, then unscrew it and put the first shaft back on the cue for playing?? Seems a bit annoying too..

Lastly.. at what tip thickness do you guys change out your tips so you don't risk cracking the ferrule.. I play ivory ferrules on my Jim Buss.. I was told about the thickness of a nickel.. .does that sound right??

interested in everyones thoughts..
 
jetlau3 said:
Do you guys who carry 1X2 cases break with your playing cue or a house cue?

I have always broken with my playing cue but I am playing a lot more than I used to and I think its starting to wear on my tip. I have a break cue but I hate carrying the 2X4 around..

Does anyone out there break with a second shaft, then unscrew it and put the first shaft back on the cue for playing?? Seems a bit annoying too..

Lastly.. at what tip thickness do you guys change out your tips so you don't risk cracking the ferrule.. I play ivory ferrules on my Jim Buss.. I was told about the thickness of a nickel.. .does that sound right??

interested in everyones thoughts..
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i tried that for a while. it is just as annoying switching shafts as you'd think it would be.

pick up one of these http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=156168&highlight=soft+case

they're super light and fit everything you could possibly need.

i've never owned a cue with ivory ferrules. everyone i know that's had one has had them crack on them and i don't want to have to fade worrying about if today's the day it gives out on me
 
Yes

I play 8-ball and 14.1. Always break 8-ball with my playing cue. Have done this for years, ivory ferrules, no problems at all. I use a really hard tip, so I don't worry about the tip getting hard.
 
xianmacx said:
I wouldn't own a cue I couldn't break with.
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That's what Buss said to me too when he made me the cue. I've been breaking with it (9 ball, 8 ball, 14.1) since I received it 4 years ago and I haven't had a problem yet.

DJKeys said:
I play 8-ball and 14.1. Always break 8-ball with my playing cue. Have done this for years, ivory ferrules, no problems at all. I use a really hard tip, so I don't worry about the tip getting hard.
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I'm a little worried about the ivory ferrules now that 1. I am playing a lot more.. and 2. the tip is getting a lot thinner..

When is it mandatory to replace a tip?? I use talisman water buffalo (I think).
 
jetlau3 said:
Do you guys who carry 1X2 cases break with your playing cue or a house cue?

I have always broken with my playing cue but I am playing a lot more than I used to and I think its starting to wear on my tip. I have a break cue but I hate carrying the 2X4 around..

Does anyone out there break with a second shaft, then unscrew it and put the first shaft back on the cue for playing?? Seems a bit annoying too..

Lastly.. at what tip thickness do you guys change out your tips so you don't risk cracking the ferrule.. I play ivory ferrules on my Jim Buss.. I was told about the thickness of a nickel.. .does that sound right??

interested in everyones thoughts..
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Just carry the bigger case. It's not like it is a golf bag.:grin:

Having said that, I have yet to find a cue that breaks as well as a good house cue.
 
jetlau3 said:
Do you guys who carry 1X2 cases break with your playing cue or a house cue?

I have always broken with my playing cue but I am playing a lot more than I used to and I think its starting to wear on my tip. I have a break cue but I hate carrying the 2X4 around..

Does anyone out there break with a second shaft, then unscrew it and put the first shaft back on the cue for playing?? Seems a bit annoying too..

Lastly.. at what tip thickness do you guys change out your tips so you don't risk cracking the ferrule.. I play ivory ferrules on my Jim Buss.. I was told about the thickness of a nickel.. .does that sound right??

interested in everyones thoughts..
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I did the same thing for a long time when I quit carrying my 3x6 for a 1x2. Much easier to carry around.

When I carried the 1z2 I always broke with my playing cue and still do even though I switched to a 2x4 in order to start carrying a jump cue.

I have never had any issues breaking with my playing cue.
 
I was wondering if anyone has or has seen a 1X2 w/a pocket large enough for a jump handle? I was thinking of making a J/B (not my current one) into a J/B and playing cue by adding an OB shaft...
 
I break with my playing cue when I take out the 1x2. I have always felt that if you can't break with your cue then it's not a great cue. Of course if you are going to bend the shaft like Sigel does then maybe you might not want to break with your playing cue......
 
In all reality...the only time you really need to worry about ivory ferrules is if the cue has gotten cold...like out in your car. If you walk in the door and start breaking with it immediately, you could crack a ferrule...but I don't think you get that kinda cold in SoCal..so you should me a-okay.

If your ivory ferrules have a fiber pad between the tip and ferrule...you'll be okay letting the tip get a little bit shorter, as the fiber pad is there to help protect the ivory ferrules.

In the grand scheme of things, replacing a tip is a relatively small expense when compared to replacing a cracked ivory ferrule. Just sayin'...

Lisa =====> breaks with every cue I own.
 
When I carry a 1x2 I carry a cue with shaft , jump shaft and the handle in the pocket. I break with my playing cue in one pocket or 14.1 but grab a house for anything firmer on the break. I have ivory ferrules and have cracked them before. I live in Florida so it's not a temp issue , there just not as strong simple as that.

I also have a 2x2 which almost the same size as the 1x2 , can't hardly tell which is which. In that case I carry cue and shaft and a JB and shaft. It just depends on which one matched my 'look' for the day. :D
 
I most certainly do. But, then again, I play one pocket.
Breaking with your player, and I mean robust breaks like nine-ball, ten-ball, and eight-ball, will batter the tip over time. Keep the tip shaped and you're good to go.
Unless it's an el cheapo cue, it really shouldn't hurt the shaft.
 
Ya seems like the consensus is to not break with it during 9 ball or 8 ball... I definetely don't use a soft break and have no interest in cracking a ferrule..

Those of you with 2 shafts on your gamer, do you game both or have 1 unplayed and just swap out tips on the gamer? I'm currently looking for someone in Los Angeles or Pasadena to put a new tip on one shaft and to also clean it up a bit (blueing)...
 
i use a break cue, and when i switched from using a house cue or somebody else's break cue, to my own dedicated break cue, my break improved a great deal.

you can use any cue to shoot with, but if you use the same cue all the time, you become more consistant in your accuracy and speed. same goes for your break if you always use the same cue.
 
I usually break with a house cue....unless I'm at my house then I use a break cue...house cue for break...break cue for house...kind of ironic.
 
IMO it really comes down to what tip and if you have a pad. There is an older fella in my pool league that shoots with an original Joss. It has ivory ferrules and he breaks with it, HARD. He has never cracked one. He uses a hard tip with a fiber pad. If you use a softer tip, just keep a tip tool handy to shape it after each session.

Until my father "stole" my Scott sherbine cue, I used to shoot and break with it and it had an ivory ferrule/pad/Moori Med. It was just too hard of a "hit" for me when playing. But breaking was fantastic. I have triangles on my playing cue now, and I break with it. On my down time I use an ultimate tip tool and reshape it. No problems so far.

Josh
 
Historically, I always carried a Whitten 2X4 with a Mace and what ever cue I was playing with at the time (my Richard Black for quite a few years).

I noticed Mark K. (owner of Pool Table Magic and Classic Cues whose last name I can never spell correctly) broke with what ever he was playing with- and that was/is a Balabushka or Gus.

If you ever watched him play, you know he does not have a 'gentile' break either. And all those ferules are Ivory.

So, when I began making my own cues, and had no fear of repairing them should the need arise, I started carrying one cue with two shafts. I also try to emulate Mark's break method- if you watch him break, it appears he is just making a typical table-length shot. No crazy antics or bent shafts; however the cue ball will often pop in the air and the rack will be broken, and broken very well.

I equate it too Kung Fu. If you have a good technique, you can impart a great deal of energy through focus and control- not a lot of excess body movement. This is what Mark has, and what I am trying to improve upon myself. I think my break is good- I spread the balls well and often make one, which is the point, but I have a long way to go to achieve his focus and power with the break.

So back to topic: now I carry a Whitten 1X2 with (currently) my Titlist conversion with my purple heart cue shaft (because I have not finished the Tru-Balance shafts for the Titlist!) and have not had any issues with the ferrule, tip or any other part of the cue for that matter.

I play a Triangle tip with no pad; 1" Ivory ferrule (capped). I ALWAYS warm the ferrule in my hands before I even screw the cue together in this cold weather. That was/is excellent advice because you don't have to be breaking to have a ferule crack. It's a natural material, like wood, and '$hit happens'.

House cues generally break very well. I agree a dedicated break cue is a good idea if you want to 'preserve' your playing cue and/or get a handle on your break technique through elimination of variables; however if you do not abuse it, any cue will be just fine for breaking (unless it was constructed poorly, and not much can help that!)

And finally, you need to keep the tip groomed. When my tip is new, I often have to give it a quick 'reshape' after every break until it settles in and compresses. Once the tip is about 1/2 gone is when it really starts to play well, and need less attention. Then before you know it, it's time for a new tip, and you have to start all over again!:mad:
 
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