Guaranteed Improvement?

DrCue'sProtege said:
i read every now and then where people on here talk about if you do this, or do that, or practice this, or practice that, or follow this book, or follow that book, or watch this tape, or watch that tape, etc, etc, that you will automatically be guaranteed to get better.

my $.02 is that NOBODY can guarantee any improvement. the goal is to get better at the discipline of your choice, that is the bottom line. but there is nothing out there that can guarantee a player's improvement, just absolutely nothing.

someone might legitimately say something like "This has been known to improve peoples games", or "Players have improved by following this practice regimen", or "I feel these drills will help you get better", etc, etc.

but in no way, shape, or form can anyone absolutely guarantee anyone is going to get better. nobody knows that and nobody can guarantee that - period.

DCP

Why bother posting something that everybody knows? Clearly phrases like "guaranteed improvement" are nothing but advertisement slogans.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
exactly!

DCP

Okay... In that case, I will no longer be responding to any more of your threads. This one is trollish on your part, and IMO useless. Best of luck with your open challenge, you're gonna need it.
 
I'm just curious as to what speed you are. In a set of equal offense what is your score?
 
Great post!

3kushn...What an excellent and eloquent way of putting it! That's all any good instructor can do...is teach someone how to teach themselves. Then you have to maintain the information that's been assimilated, with regular structured practice. The Mother Drills focus on this type of disciplined behavior, and help ingrain the process into a habit.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

3kushn said:
Why does every professional athlete have a coach and sometimes personal coaches?
Must a coach just work with what he?s got or can a better way in the matter?
What does a coach have to offer someone who?s reached the pinnacle of their sport?
Why is Coaching a profession?
How did professional athletes become professionals?
Where do improvements derive from?
What makes the difference in an average player, a good player and a superstar?
Are Superstars born or made?

Simple knowledge of some technique that?s supposed to work and improve your game, will not improve your game. The technique Must Be A PART of Your Game. That takes practice, time and effort.

This reminds me of people that bring their dogs to Obedience Training and think that after the 8 - 1 hour sessions of ?Training Their Dog? the dog will be trained. It never happens, and the dog is blamed for being un-trainable or, the Teacher must have done something wrong. These people never realize that the 8 sessions were to teach them
to be the teacher and they are to train their dog, and is NOT intended for the dog to be finished and ready for the National Dog Obedience Championships.
 
You're mistaken NervousNovice. The guarantee I offer, in writing, is that you'll improve, and be satisfied...or the lesson is free! That's no slogan...it's a fact! :D The only way you won't improve, is if you think you won't! The knowledge works (for anyone)...if you apply it correctly!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

NervousNovice said:
Why bother posting something that everybody knows? Clearly phrases like "guaranteed improvement" are nothing but advertisement slogans.
 
582 threads started by this twit and yet people keep coming back for more.

Notice that in Grady's thread as he talked about "Randy" DCP comes in and asks "who's Randy?"

DCP is on this forum day after day. He's here all the time but thinks only of himself. He has no idea what is happening to people other than himself. He is totally self-centered.

Self-centered means that his thinking is centered around him. He thinks of little else. Drop him like the leech he is. He'll suck you dry and move on to the next "helper" that he can suck in to his vortex.

And by the way.... Joe Tuckers book "Guaranteed Improvement" is a great book of skill building practice methods and DCP has not earned the right to speak of it in any way shape or form.
 
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DrCue'sProtege said:
exactly!

DCP
If you don't listen or practice what is taught, you will not improve, that is guaranteed because you will continue to do the same things wrong that you are doing now.

I still go back to your lesson with Mark Wilson a few years ago that you posted about.

You had mentioned that he wanted you to change a few things and you weren't comfortable with the changes so you disregarded the advice.

If that is your attitude towards instruction you will never improve.

JMO.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
i read every now and then where people on here talk about if you do this, or do that, or practice this, or practice that, or follow this book, or follow that book, or watch this tape, or watch that tape, etc, etc, that you will automatically be guaranteed to get better.

my $.02 is that NOBODY can guarantee any improvement. the goal is to get better at the discipline of your choice, that is the bottom line. but there is nothing out there that can guarantee a player's improvement, just absolutely nothing.

someone might legitimately say something like "This has been known to improve peoples games", or "Players have improved by following this practice regimen", or "I feel these drills will help you get better", etc, etc.

but in no way, shape, or form can anyone absolutely guarantee anyone is going to get better. nobody knows that and nobody can guarantee that - period.

DCP

One more try, in a set of equal offense what is your score?
 
Shrug, if you sincerely work at a legit drill... then it's impossible to fail to improve.

Maybe one guy with a very specific and peculiar learning disability might come to the instructor after hitting 250,000 balls in legit drills... and that particular guy can't improve.

That guy is not you. For one thing, you probably haven't hit a quarter of a million balls in practice yet. For another thing, I strongly suspect that weird disability doesn't exist. You fall in the category that the other 99.99% live in... who CAN improve if they apply enough time to legit drills. "Enough" might be 4 hours a day vs. someone else's 2 hours, but you can improve.

Remember you have to sincerely work at it -
Ever see a guy who was asked to mop the floors at work, and he can't leave until it's done? He gets passive-aggressive about it and sullenly does a halfassed job quickly swiping the mop back and forth until the entire floor is wet, but not clean... all the while thinking pissed-off, negative thoughts. He knows the right way to do the job ...but he just wants to get through it so he can say he did it and b|tch to his buddies later when he leaves.

Don't put that kind of effort into your drills. If you get annoyed because you're trying to draw 5 feet, and you can't do it with the first three balls you hit, it does no good if you switch to a comfortable, flawed stroke that you've been using that you know will get you at least 4 feet of draw. If you hit 100 more balls this way and you rush through it and then claim "I did the drill and I still max out at 4 feet" then you're just sabotaging yourself.

Do each drill correctly, hundreds of times, and I guarantee you'll improve or god will kill a kitten.
 
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APA7 said:
`B U M P` :eek:

Brian



Brian, I am within one keystroke of banning you.

If you have any questions as to why that you are unsure of, please feel free to drop me a line.

If you understand exactly where I am coming from, then we agree that you are and have been pushing your luck for a very long time with me.

try me just once more and I'll be sure there is no further confusion.

Sincerely,
Dave
 
Mr. Wilson said:
Brian, I am within one keystroke of banning you.

If you have any questions as to why that you are unsure of, please feel free to drop me a line.

If you understand exactly where I am coming from, then we agree that you are and have been pushing your luck for a very long time with me.

try me just once more and I'll be sure there is no further confusion.

Sincerely,
Dave

Say it ain't so.. Say it ain't so!

Russ
 

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Mr. Wilson said:
Brian, I am within one keystroke of banning you.

If you have any questions as to why that you are unsure of, please feel free to drop me a line.

If you understand exactly where I am coming from, then we agree that you are and have been pushing your luck for a very long time with me.

try me just once more and I'll be sure there is no further confusion.

Sincerely,
Dave

That's the way..
Uh huh..
Uh huh..
I like it.
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Uh huh..
 
Mr. Wilson said:
Brian, I am within one keystroke of banning you.

If you have any questions as to why that you are unsure of, please feel free to drop me a line.

If you understand exactly where I am coming from, then we agree that you are and have been pushing your luck for a very long time with me.

try me just once more and I'll be sure there is no further confusion.

Sincerely,
Dave

I do have a question. Is some of my posts N E worse than a lot of others on here? Do I `attack` people?

I say my opinion N it's not popular with sum peeps, but is that so wrong?

N why is it that U seem to have it in for me so i am `1 keystroke away` but others can say the same things N not have U hawking them?? :confused:

Brian
 
Russ Chewning said:
Say it ain't so.. Say it ain't so!

Russ


Hah hah.. He ACTUALLY gave me bad rep for this post...

Well, at least now that he has given me bad rep recently, I can get raheeeeeeeeely stooopid on him, and not have to worry about (oh no!!!!!!) bad rep..... :D :D :D

APA7........You're pathetic, bro...

Russ
 
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