Hand made cues?

measureman

measureman

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I am really tired of seeing the phrase "hand made cue by xxxx maker"
All pool cues are hand made with the use of machines.
I suppose that phrase really impresses the flea bay buyers.
 
measureman said:
I am really tired of seeing the phrase "hand made cue by xxxx maker"
All pool cues are hand made with the use of machines.
I suppose that phrase really impresses the flea bay buyers.
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It's actually a model line in the case of Joss. What else would one call one?

But I know what you mean.

There are many often abused terms. Vintage, custom, and more being among them.
 
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measureman said:
I am really tired of seeing the phrase "hand made cue by xxxx maker"
All pool cues are hand made with the use of machines.
I suppose that phrase really impresses the flea bay buyers.
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They mean they're guiding the machinery by hand, as opposed to mass produced via CNC or some other production equipment. For example, I make guitars by hand. Yeah, I use bandsaws, routers and things like that. I've never met someone that felt "hand made" means you have to only use your hands, and I guess gnaw at the wood until it fits. :p

Incidentally, it's traditional to make snooker cues with simply hand planes. Having done similar work, I can tell you that it's really not as hard as it sounds if you're setup with some basic stops and things like that.
 
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If you haven't already seen it, you should YouTube John Parris Snooker Cues.
Ronnie O'Sullivan plays with one.
There's a "how the are made" video you might find interesting
 
Perhaps if you like to drop money on a flashy cue you can enjoy knowing hours of craftsmanship went into the butt of the cue but when it comes to the shaft I'd prefer they use CT, PET scans, crystalography etc to select the perfect piece of wood and have a robotic CNC lathe slowly turn it to perfect shape with the tolerances constantly measured by a thousand lasers.

I watched a video on how Parris snooker cues are made and they just take a block of wood and plane it down by hand. Turn. Plane. Turn. Plane. Turn. Plane. Turn. Until they have a round staff and then they hand-shape it into the final cue, then cut it in half and put a joint in the middle. They even cut and shape the tip by hand with just an exacto knife and a metal file. I was surprised when they said the only thing they use machinery for is installing the joint and I was just thinking, for that price range wouldn't you want a machine-cut shaft guaranteed to be perfectly symmetrical and straight? I can perhaps see that roughing in the shape by planing it down the grain means constantly exerting pressure on the shaft tightening up the grain making it stiffer but surely you'd at least want the final shaping and finishing to be done on a lathe, sanding it.

Hand-made doesn't always mean quality. Italian cars are handmade and they have atrocious reliability.
 
Kwalety

DrCue'sProtege said:
Amen to that. The Lotus cars, although British made, are notorious for their reliability.

r/DCP
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It is not the hand made issue in Italian cars,.....
it's the engineering of the cars.
I LOVE the Dino-Ferrari but ,..........

It was not engineered or made by Germans.
If you have any doubt toward CNC machine work ,... look this up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Yq4Zx8rkU

That said: There is a place in my heart for the "old-school" ways where an operator used a mill/lathe with out any technology to aid him. These operators knew their equipment well,.... to the point that they could/would compensate for a bearing that may be starting to wear out on their machine. Material made from such a combination of man/machine makes them altogether unique to their computer processed counterparts.
Just my opinion. :)
 
You are correct

Rabi said:
If you haven't already seen it, you should YouTube John Parris Snooker Cues.
Ronnie O'Sullivan plays with one.
There's a "how the are made" video you might find interesting
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I have seen several videos of people making snooker cues with a hand plainer .
 
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Brit cars being reliable

DrCue'sProtege said:
Amen to that. The Lotus cars, although British made, are notorious for their reliability.

r/DCP
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I owned a few Triumph motorcycles and a couple of there cars ,
A couple BSA and Norton's too.


Do you know what BSA means ?????????
BASTERD STOPPED AGAIN.

Lucas electrical systems were always malfunctioning .............
And the engines vibrated themselves apart just as bad as any Harley .
 
Ha, one of my first bikes was a '59 Triumph Tiger Cub. My AMF era 74 cube Harley Shovelhead was light years ahead of that Triumph.
 
I don't care for it either. It sounds like some Hillbilly (and I know about Hillbillies) took a pocket knife out of his overalls and whittled out a cue from a tree branch.
"If you'uns wanna sit fer a spell I'll fix ya'll up with a new cue stick directly." :smile:
 
measureman said:
I am really tired of seeing the phrase "hand made cue by xxxx maker"
All pool cues are hand made with the use of machines.
I suppose that phrase really impresses the flea bay buyers.
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I agree with your point. I have always liked. Hand crafted. Vee Points...veneers.. inlays... Are often hand fitted. But still turned by machine.
 
measureman said:
I am really tired of seeing the phrase "hand made cue by xxxx maker"
All pool cues are hand made with the use of machines.
I suppose that phrase really impresses the flea bay buyers.
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Agreed...There's a lot of ignorance passed around...
 
Tramp Steamer said:
I don't care for it either. It sounds like some Hillbilly (and I know about Hillbillies) took a pocket knife out of his overalls and whittled out a cue from a tree branch.
"If you'uns wanna sit fer a spell I'll fix ya'll up with a new cue stick directly." :smile:
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Lmfao I've totally went van damme serious face when some morons ask how I make them....."been carving since I was a kid I whittle them with a custom blade I had made"

Seriously? For realz?

No for fakes!

I'll never buy a cue made by a cnc. I did my first one I bought at 15....McDermott. Sold it year later.

Never bought another.

But that's just me I grew up doing carpentry and doing old world style work like what you see on Roy under hills woodwright show. Machines are great. Use me all the time of course. Hell I make my own machines and jigs etc out of wood....I draw the line when you have to hit enter.

For me the only time it's ok to remove my hands.....is on auto feed when tapering. Most of my turnings wether cues or not start on a wood lathe and I manually turn.....lol I made a plate to go on my tool post on the machine lathe I have at home so I can do manual turning on it if I feel like it. And I do. ( I do work two sep places)

I'd rather have inlays done by hand and chisel as a buyer from an actual craftsman who learned the skill than pay someone to do code.

Manual panto is totally fine of course.

Been getting into marquetry for a while.....eventually will roll out some pretty diff old world stuff with that.

Can't hurt really, everything I see mostly are renditions of renditions copies of copies.....ssdd

I'd buy a boulle desk before I dropped a nickel on a black boar. They are quite gorgeous though. But cold looking too me.

Subjective taste in craft and execution and art do I have though.

I also can't stand all the guys and their burnpile bs....yea throw it away donkey.....or figure out something to do with your butchering. Make a dildo, then you can rotate on it at the burn pile while you sweep your mistakes embarrassingly under the rug perfect people.

The most awesome stuff I've ever made were generally out of a need to correct a mistake I caused.

Think out the box. Use that brain and don't rely so much on black and white

-greyghost


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degree of "hand made"

measureman said:
I am really tired of seeing the phrase "hand made cue by xxxx maker"
All pool cues are hand made with the use of machines.
I suppose that phrase really impresses the flea bay buyers.
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Apologies to the OP for my first post: I did not mean to take it off topic; I was just trying to make a correlation of autos to other things and the degree of craftsmanship (ie: total automation vs. completely "hand made" )

This thread proves your very point: "hand made" is indeed a very subjective term open to wide interpretation.

When the word "hand made " comes about; one word should come next : " EXPLAIN "

JMO :)
 
Chopdoc said:
It's actually a model line in the case of Joss. What else would one call one?

But I know what you mean.

There are many often abused terms. Vintage, custom, and more being among them.
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Hey Doc,

Do you concur that Bruce / measureman needs to stay out of the Ebay cues section for the next 30-days?
The poor guy is obviously suffering from stress, generated by the dynamics in the imported cue market.
It's confusing enough trying to keep up with the imported LD market, not to mention
the imported decal cue market, or which plant in China is doing what to who.
Repeated imported cue viewing in the Ebay cue section can make you go crazy.


:smile:
 
mortuarymike-nv said:
I owned a few Triumph motorcycles and a couple of there cars ,
A couple BSA and Norton's too.


Do you know what BSA means ?????????
BASTERD STOPPED AGAIN.

Lucas electrical systems were always malfunctioning .............
And the engines vibrated themselves apart just as bad as any Harley .
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I used to race Triumphs in the late 60's, early 70's. We used to wear T-shirts that were imprinted: Lucas: Prince of Darkness LOL

and....why do the English drink warm beer? Because their refrigerators are made by Lucas.
 
Lucas

RickLafayette said:
I used to race Triumphs in the late 60's, early 70's. We used to wear T-shirts that were imprinted: Lucas: Prince of Darkness LOL

and....why do the English drink warm beer? Because their refrigerators are made by Lucas.
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That's to funny,

Did you know that the oil drain plug out of a 1954 International pick up will work as a rocker cover cap on a 650 triumph :thumbup:
 
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