Heart...

Fatboy

Fatboy

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I want to hear everyone's own personal defination of what exactly heart is. Since I entered the DCC 10Ball ring game I have been told I'm a rich guy buying my into something, on the flip side I have heard that I have alot of alot heart to enter it because it will put me in the spot light and expose any weakness I have, I dont want this defination to be about me and what I'm doing, i'm out of the picture for this thread.

What this is about what is "heart" in your mind?, just betting high isnt it to me, because its all relitave to ones bankroll. Is it the willingness of a player to step up and take a huge risk in action? Playing over their head? Out running the nuts? Is it to see how many barrels a player will fire? Is it taking a shot at someone you dont know? Is it having the guts to take the worst of it infront of alot of people? Is it playing through the tough times until your game comes back? Finding a way to win? How deep you dig into your soul to keep playing? Is it a go-off who plays til he is flat? Entering a tournment? Playing leagues? Practicing 6 hours a day with dedication? Sacrificing having a relationship with a girl and other things in life-total dedication? Going on the road? Etc...

There are a million different definatons in my mind and I want to know what everyones opinion is, again leave me and what i'm doing out of this, this aint about me. Its a term I have heard a million times in pool rooms all over the world-mostly here in America from my experience. I have heard it here(AZ) too, its used loosley by D players up to Champions. You'll hear "Bartram has alot of heart" often, with that statment or similar statments in mind, please eloborate on what heart really means to you, your own personal opinion. I know there are as many answeres to this as questions, so lets hear them. Please no knocks in this thread-those speak for themselfs.

I have often wondered about my peers in pool and what their idea of what it is, since I hear it so often. But please generalize this isnt about anyone person or event like Bartram etc. its about your the interpation of the word.

Everyone thinks they have it thus everyone here has to have a opinion of what makes a player have heart.

(sorry my spelling is awful today)
 
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To me , Heart is giving at all you have even when your down , even when you don't have a chance.

In fact , that's when it shows the most , giving it your all even when you know it's not going to be enough but you do it anyway . . . that's heart.
 
Heart to me is never giving up...no matter how much the odds are staked against you. Weather it be gambling, love, business, or whatever. Johnnyt
 
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Simpy put, heart is about willingness to take risks. As I said long ago, throwing twenty on the pool table takes heart if you are hungry several hundred miles away from home, and that is your last twenty. It doesn't mean a thing if you throw twenties to the paperboy when you grab a paper. Likewise, if you care what the rest of the world thinks about you, it takes a lot of heart to risk public embarrassment. If you really are indifferent to what other people think then you can do whatever you please in public with no heart involved at all.

In truth, only each individual can know what it takes heart for them to do.

Hu
 
Click the link below... it is the best definition I have ever heard as it relates to pool...

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Heart, huh?

well, unless you are excellent at making balls and have excellent cue ball control, heart isnt going to do you much good. except providing you a means to have someone pat you on the back afterwards, and say you gave your best.

the Miami Dolphins had heart going into New England today. the result of their heart? a 28-0 first half deficit. that heart didnt do them much good.

DCP
 
I think JohnnyT summed it up. Never giving up and fin ding a way to win when winning looks impossible. I've seen top players concede when they are far behind in a race to 9 say 7-0 I think you should always try to win even if you're losing 8-0 in a race to 9 To me overcoming this adversity shows heart. Philw
 
Heart is fatboy putting up ten million to my ten thousand and playing an ahead set...

That may be ballanced well for pressure...

What say you, fatboy? Got the heart?
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Heart, huh?

well, unless you are excellent at making balls and have excellent cue ball control, heart isnt going to do you much good. except providing you a means to have someone pat you on the back afterwards, and say you gave your best.

the Miami Dolphins had heart going into New England today. the result of their heart? a 28-0 first half deficit. that heart didnt do them much good.

DCP
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But if you didn't get up there and play then you would be considered to have no heart...
 
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Heart is getting in a game that is not easy for stakes that are not small (relative to the person) and battling to win it.

Bartrum is a great example of this. If he has $10000 to bet, he will play an even game and play his "heart" out.

Heart is Chris Gardner from the "Pursuit of Happyness".

It does not take heart for me to play for $5 a game no matter what the game is. It does take heart to be down 10 games at $5 a game and battle back to win because I know I have the ability.

Heart is someone's tenacity and risk relative to their monetary situation.
 
the guy in the black is allllll heart :)

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What is "Heart?"

Fatboy said:
I want to hear everyone's own personal definition of what exactly heart is?
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Ask any serviceman that has been in a heavy fire fight what "heart" is? Heart is throwing yourself onto a grenade to save your friends! It is that instinct within you to do the impossible for a cause greater than yourself.

Heart is what Easter & Christmas is all about, an innocent man suffering and being killed for HIS Friends while being spit on, and then saying to God "forgive them for they know not what they do".

It takes "heart" to believe in the impossible like what Shane just accomplished in Reno. For without the "heart to believe" man has no hope, for the good book says, "without a vision man perishes." Given that, "heart" & "vision" run a close race with each other and are closely related.

It takes heart to take hits from others without striking back. Heart often puts concerns about others before yourself. That's why you often hear the words "he has a good heart". A pool player can have a good or bad heart that is his or her choice. A heart to play pool is really "courage", not heart, for a man's heart is really made up of where his treasure lies, that is where you will find your heart!
 
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DrCue'sProtege said:
Heart, huh?

well, unless you are excellent at making balls and have excellent cue ball control, heart isnt going to do you much good. except providing you a means to have someone pat you on the back afterwards, and say you gave your best.

the Miami Dolphins had heart going into New England today. the result of their heart? a 28-0 first half deficit. that heart didnt do them much good.

DCP
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DCP, you are so freaking depressing... the reason the Dolphins have heart is because individually they have worked their respective asses off to get to where they are... as a team, yeah, they suck. But they didn't become pro football players because they sat around their backyard and tossed the football in the air and caught it themselves (like you practicing by yourself all day on your pool table).

They played high school and college ball and worked really hard to become the best players they can each be. I am sure they each faced adversity and struggled to get where they are, but they didn't quit. You refer to their collective "heart" as a team, but let's face it, none of them would be there at all if they didnt each have what it takes (and it does take plenty of heart). One losing season for these people as a team, and you are questioning whether having heart even matters??? Give me a break. You are obviously missing something when it comes to evaluating success; on a personal or professional level.

I would guarantee you that not one of those players is ready to "give up" because of a couple of bad breaks, as you have stated so many times on here.

The ability to not give up and follow your dreams at all costs... that's my definition of heart.
 
Seem to me...

Heart exists when a person works hard at achieving a goal and pushes himself out past that comfortable point that his natural talents would have taken him.
Other people don't keep score for the amount of heart you display, you keep your own score. And it is that score that allows you to leave the room with you head high, win lose or draw.
True heart does not listen to the naysayers.
Press On Fatboy!
 
Losing money doesn't take heart. Coming back a month or a year later as a better player and winning it back does.


Chris
 
Fatboy said:
I want to hear everyone's own personal defination of what exactly heart is. Since I entered the DCC 10Ball ring game I have been told I'm a rich guy buying my into something, on the flip side I have heard that I have alot of alot heart to enter it because it will put me in the spot light and expose any weakness I have, I dont want this defination to be about me and what I'm doing, i'm out of the picture for this thread.

What this is about what is "heart" in your mind?, just betting high isnt it to me, because its all relitave to ones bankroll. Is it the willingness of a player to step up and take a huge risk in action? Playing over their head? Out running the nuts? Is it to see how many barrels a player will fire? Is it taking a shot at someone you dont know? Is it having the guts to take the worst of it infront of alot of people? Is it playing through the tough times until your game comes back? Finding a way to win? How deep you dig into your soul to keep playing? Is it a go-off who plays til he is flat? Entering a tournment? Playing leagues? Practicing 6 hours a day with dedication? Sacrificing having a relationship with a girl and other things in life-total dedication? Going on the road? Etc...

There are a million different definatons in my mind and I want to know what everyones opinion is, again leave me and what i'm doing out of this, this aint about me. Its a term I have heard a million times in pool rooms all over the world-mostly here in America from my experience. I have heard it here(AZ) too, its used loosley by D players up to Champions. You'll hear "Bartram has alot of heart" often, with that statment or similar statments in mind, please eloborate on what heart really means to you, your own personal opinion. I know there are as many answeres to this as questions, so lets hear them. Please no knocks in this thread-those speak for themselfs.

I have often wondered about my peers in pool and what their idea of what it is, since I hear it so often. But please generalize this isnt about anyone person or event like Bartram etc. its about your the interpation of the word.

Everyone thinks they have it thus everyone here has to have a opinion of what makes a player have heart.

(sorry my spelling is awful today)
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Fatboy, you seem obsessed with the ring game. Putting yourself in action is more than a lot of people would do, not withstanding the entry fee. I would think one would always want to perform well in such a situation, but that may not always be in the cards. Critics are those who stand on the side but won't get close to the fire. Best of luck.
 
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