FAST_N_LOOSE said:
Hoppe ring etiquette pt. 2: What size is "right"?
- Thread starter 1pRoscoe
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1pRoscoe said:Either that or he's been drinking as much as I have......
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Tiddler said:
THE BUMPER NEEDS TO BE TASTEFUL, AND RECESSED. LIKE THIS ONE.
1pRoscoe said:Either that or he's been drinking as much as I have......
NOT TONIGHT......BUT MAYBE IT'S A CONTACT HIGH.
Eh - to each their own.... I only own one hoppe cue that has a bumper and it hasn't been used in a while. My daily player is the one in my avatar and the pool hall I go to has tile floors.jazznpool said:I used to feel the same way many years ago when I first had Tim Scruggs build a Hoppe/ Rambow style cue for me. Since then I've found the rubber bumper far too practical to resist!
Martin
I'm consciously careful about what I'm doing, but at the end of the day, the cue gets played. :thumbup:
I'll probably never order a hoppe cue with a bumper again...
Cest la vie....
1pRoscoe said:
Love that look. I don't mind inlays or signatures as long as it's tasteful. I've had a Blackcreek that Travis signed with the date of completion and "Blackcreek" in the Hoppe ring...and that looked fine. Scott Gracio also puts a signature in some of his Hoppe rings and it looks beautiful.
Now...to ME... I don't think it's a true Hoppe if it has a bumper on underneathe. I think the bumper looks terrible beneathe a well executed Hoppe ring.
Is there any way to remove a bumper and just have it flat faced on the bottom of a cue?
It's your cue!!! Just do whatever feels right to you if it is a "spec" cue. Someone will like it. If it is for a customer then they decide what they want.
Mr. Roscoe,
I'm a little confused as to your intent with this thread.
If it's to 'define' a Hoppe ring, that's academic.
If it's to 'air' your objections to a Hoppe 'style' ring then vent-on.
You can vent until you're out of breath and it's not going to change the way we build cues. What you fail to realize is the nature of creativity.
It's about pushing the envelope. It's about personal interpretation of design and it's execution. I have a sense that these qualities have escaped you. That's OK, not everyone has the ability to appreciate art and it's endless forms. If you don't like the cue, don't buy it. It's that simple.
You've criticized some notable cuemakers for offering their opinions.
I'll have to second Arnot's statement. Who the flock are you to tell a CM how to execute their design? Obviously, Arnot is more polite than I am.
Tony's statement couldn't have been more correct.
"I love it when somebody who doesn't build cues decides they should tell people who do what is right and what is wrong." I couldn't agree more.
I don't think this thread is about the Hoppe ring at all. I think it's merely the vehicle of your choice, to come here to the Cuemakers section and demand that your opinion be heard. Not a lot of class there.
When you post on the world's stage, you have a choice. You can show your class or you can show your ass. You Sir, need a belt.
I truly hope that the next time the 'spirits' move you to criticize an artist and his work that you find another section to do it in. It's not needed here.
I'm a little confused as to your intent with this thread.
If it's to 'define' a Hoppe ring, that's academic.
If it's to 'air' your objections to a Hoppe 'style' ring then vent-on.
You can vent until you're out of breath and it's not going to change the way we build cues. What you fail to realize is the nature of creativity.
It's about pushing the envelope. It's about personal interpretation of design and it's execution. I have a sense that these qualities have escaped you. That's OK, not everyone has the ability to appreciate art and it's endless forms. If you don't like the cue, don't buy it. It's that simple.
You've criticized some notable cuemakers for offering their opinions.
I'll have to second Arnot's statement. Who the flock are you to tell a CM how to execute their design? Obviously, Arnot is more polite than I am.
Tony's statement couldn't have been more correct.
"I love it when somebody who doesn't build cues decides they should tell people who do what is right and what is wrong." I couldn't agree more.
I don't think this thread is about the Hoppe ring at all. I think it's merely the vehicle of your choice, to come here to the Cuemakers section and demand that your opinion be heard. Not a lot of class there.
When you post on the world's stage, you have a choice. You can show your class or you can show your ass. You Sir, need a belt.
I truly hope that the next time the 'spirits' move you to criticize an artist and his work that you find another section to do it in. It's not needed here.
My intent was to show that if you're going to call it a hoppe ring, some of the specs are way out of line. You'll note that a whole ton of people agree - some posted, some PM'd.KJ Cues said:
Glad to be a scholar...KJ Cues said:
This one is more inline with my intentions...KJ Cues said:
If I've saved one cue, I will sleep better at night.KJ Cues said:
Being as how I'm more of a traditionalist when it comes to cues, I wouldn't say its "escaped" me, but sometimes you have to call a spade a spade, no?KJ Cues said:
I won't.KJ Cues said:
Wrong. I haven't criticized anyone for offering their opinion. I have responded to those that wanted to ridicule me for voicing an opinion though.... What notable cuemaker did I criticize?KJ Cues said:
KJ Cues said:
I didn't tell anyone how to execute anything, and I'm a nobody. But I'll tell you one thing, the more time I spend reading this section, the more I believe that this section is incorrectly titled.
KJ Cues said:
One thing you don't realize is at the end of the day, you're not building anything for yourself..... unless you want zero income. You're building cues to support yourself and sell to your customers. If you don't listen to feedback that they could provide you in efforts to give you insight, how long do you plan to be in business?
KJ Cues said:
Wow, talk about speculation. Again, I'll say that this section may be inaccurately labeled as "ask the cuemaker". It was merely a humorous attempt to spark conversation and debate. Looks like there is absolutely zero humor in this place and you all need to stick to "what tip is best" or "should the tenon go into the forearm or handle?"
KJ Cues said:
Glad you're welcoming of others opinions. Have a great day.
dave sutton said:
Now I understand. Customer comes to you and you say go away because I don't like your choice of rings. God - just think what would happen if you did not like his choice of points, forearm or butt sleeve.
That customer is welcome here at www.arnotq.com.
Here's the answer! I have actual original Hoppe parts, left over from Brunswick's run of cues. I have taken a pic of the my calipers to show the correct thickness the rings need to be. Any other thickness will be deemed wrong from this point forward.
<~~professional smarta$$
rings are not for sale
ivory ring at .300"
cotton ring at .375"
<~~professional smarta$$
rings are not for sale
ivory ring at .300"
cotton ring at .375"
