How do you hit and aim the cue ball to make this bank shot?

Wow, in the few seconds it took me to log in, PP8 was here and poof, he was gone again. Haha

Here is one that is similar, its the second bank shot that Timmons has on UTube. I find this one comes up frequently and is good to know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITFXq8_1tw4&feature=related

Also, Freddy the B teaches this one in his DVD, "Banks That Don't Go But Do".

Multiple rail hits to the side.
 
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I also agree w/inside (left) english for this shot, but it appears this table might be in very humid conditions, it does not act like a table in normal conditions. It could be old cloth or phoney rails too. The shot can be made, but this rebound off the second rail looks a little funny to me.

This shot is made easier when you can cut the ball to add collision induced reverse english on the object ball.

Dave
 
Folks:

As much as I don't want to insert myself into anything pocketpoint-related, I have to agree with PP9.

Rationale: watch the cue ball. If you don't believe that's a left-english "pinch" after contact, I don't know what is. Again, don't watch the object ball. Watch the cue ball. Watch how it deadens upon a solid impact. If that were right-english, that cue ball would take off HOT.

And remember -- english REVERSES after a hard contact with a cushion. All good bankers know this, and this is proven in some of Dr. Dave's high-speed/slo-mo videos.

-Sean
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
Yes, on this shot, load up with left ...
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Well, but when the cue ball draws to the near cushion it has no side spin.

I think the near cushion is funny to the left of the side pocket. I have never seen a cross-side bank back up that much.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
Well, but when the cue ball draws to the near cushion it has no side spin.

I think the near cushion is funny to the left of the side pocket. I have never seen a cross-side bank back up that much.
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The same guy has another bank there where he does something similar, in essentially the same spot. It comes up after the first one ends. Maybe they put something on the rails to make it grip more?
 
RackemBilliards said:
The same guy has another bank there where he does something similar, in essentially the same spot. It comes up after the first one ends. Maybe they put something on the rails to make it grip more?
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Or maybe put a small super ball under the cushion where we can't see it. If done by "rail grip" it would have to be on both cushions. I once tried applying some Sex Wax to the balls and/or cushions but it didn't work very well or at least didn't get the desired result.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Well, but when the cue ball draws to the near cushion it has no side spin.

I think the near cushion is funny to the left of the side pocket. I have never seen a cross-side bank back up that much.
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Agree here with your opinion Bob,

imo the rails of this table are not properly installed anymore, or broken (some degree are enough to get such a funny result).
The shot itself is not that difficult and can be done easier as it seems- just with a *bit more friendly angle* of course :)

lg
Ingo
 
PocketPoint9 said:
But then half the people here say to hit that shot with right english. And now you'll have people going around thinking to hit the shot with right english, when it doesn't even make sense.
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haha...... can you say psycho...... keep living the dream moron...:thumbup:
 
sfleinen said:
Folks:

As much as I don't want to insert myself into anything pocketpoint-related, I have to agree with PP9.

Rationale: watch the cue ball. If you don't believe that's a left-english "pinch" after contact, I don't know what is. Again, don't watch the object ball. Watch the cue ball. Watch how it deadens upon a solid impact. If that were right-english, that cue ball would take off HOT.

And remember -- english REVERSES after a hard contact with a cushion. All good bankers know this, and this is proven in some of Dr. Dave's high-speed/slo-mo videos.

-Sean
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Are you happening to notice the direction his cue takes after release? If he applied left English it wouldn't go in that direction. And there's nothing fishy about the cushion.
 
risky biz said:
You guys who are saying left English are wrong. It's right English. And not a cut, close to full in the face from where he's shooting. You want it to hit about 1/2 to 3/4 diamond from the side pocket on your side of the table.
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This is correct...
 
vincentwu817 said:
Does your cue go side ways when you apply English?
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One thing is for certain: if someone applies heavy left English their cue wouldn't drift up to the right after release. But you can choose to ignore that if you like and ask me irrelevant questions about how I play pool.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Well, but when the cue ball draws to the near cushion it has no side spin.

I think the near cushion is funny to the left of the side pocket. I have never seen a cross-side bank back up that much.
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After CB/OB contact the CB goes slightly forward then comes back straight across the table. That wouldn't happen with left English. By the time it hits the near cushion the residual spin is gone.

Watch the stroke closely. You can't tell from the setup but when he strokes he's digging in under the cueball on the right hand side. He's employing a very exaggerated stroke but it gets the job done.

There's nothing wrong with the cushion.
 
TX Poolnut said:
How do you hit and aim the cue ball to make this bank shot?

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nqktew3TD4&feature=feedrec_grec_index

TX Poolnut <---confused
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Todd,
While I haven't tried this particular shot, I practice shooting these type of shots all of the time.

Besides hitting the cue ball with stun and side, a wet table (high humidity) will enhance the chances of making this shot.

I don't know if this is on a bar table or a 9 footer and that could also make a difference.

Joey
 
risky biz said:
After CB/OB contact the CB goes slightly forward then comes back straight across the table. That wouldn't happen with left English. ...
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It's easy to get the cue ball to do that with either left or right english, but it's clear from when the cue ball hits the rail that it has no english.

And the rails do not react normally. Maybe it's beer spills.
 
I have played this as a three cushion shot in the opposite side, and I would agree with those who say that there is something wrong with this table for the shot to be made into a two railer. You can get the two railer to go when the ball is a few inches from the pocket, and you hit the second cushion a few inches on the opposite side of the other side pocket, but this ball is nearly a diamond from the pocket, and it hits nearly a diamond on the other side of the opposite pocket. In my experience, that just isn't going to happen on a normal table.

I have never played the three rail shot with english. The two railer I have, but only to play position on the next shot. The OB picks up all the spin it needs from its contact with the first cushion - any spin that you could get to transfer from the CB would be negligible compared to the amount it gets from the rail, IMO.

Aaron
 
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TX Poolnut said:
How do you hit and aim the cue ball to make this bank shot?

LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nqktew3TD4&feature=feedrec_grec_index

TX Poolnut <---confused
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The way this guy has this shot set up,won't work on 99.9% of tables I've played on.This must be way down south on a table that was under very wet condtions and some funky gaff rails.I have seen a couple tables where this might work but the doors were all open and the table was wringing wet and It was pouring down rain outside. But If you have to or want to try to make this shot,I can tell ya how.....It's a center cueball hit with just a touch of left,It's more stun than left though.The shot's pretty simpl but not at the extreme angle with which this guy has It laying at.
 
JBKY said:
The way this guy has this shot set up,won't work on 99.9% of tables I've played on.This must be way down south on a table that was under very wet condtions and some funky gaff rails.I have seen a couple tables where this might work but the doors were all open and the table was wringing wet and It was pouring down rain outside. But If you have to or want to try to make this shot,I can tell ya how.....It's a center cueball hit with just a touch of left,It's more stun than left though.The shot's pretty simpl but not at the extreme angle with which this guy has It laying at.
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And that right there is the law talking when it comes to banking boys. Your question has now officially been answered.
 
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