How to play this shot:

You guys are making this way too hard.

All this shot requires is a firm center ball shot. The natural spin off the deflection of the object ball with get you right back to where you need to be 2 rails.

Center ball is your friend, even if no one love it. It loves you.

Try it, you'll like it.

JC
 
IF the 9 ball is frozen, there is another option if people don't want to take a chance of missing the 8 ball is to drag the 8 with outside to come back just a bit past the side pocket and playing the 9 softly with inside...it can't be missed.
 
Why is a bank shot in even being tossed around? lol what's wrong with you people?!?!?
 
Based on the angle of the tangent line and rail, I don't think you want to put any draw on the shot. I think center ball is okay, but I personally would hit the CB with a tip of left to ensure I don't inadvertently put a smidge of right, which could be disastrous. The most important thing is to hit it very firm, since any left side spin the CB picks up (either from what you intentionally put on the CB or from collision with the OB) would cause the CB to check up after the second rail.

Or, you take the Efren approach and land precisely on the short side of the 9 to pocket it in the other corner.
 
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SE7EN said:
Probably Not The "Correct" Shot Selection To Some.

But I Found The High Right To Be "My" Highest Percentage..

Thought It Would Be Cool To Make A Small Clip. Tried To Line The Balls Up As Close I Could To The Pic.

-Very Amateur

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFmJJA_gTyI&feature=youtu.be
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The shot you've set up in the video is not quite the same shot. In the OP diagram, the cueball is in the centerline of the table, while yours is closer to the 8-ball side. Your 8-ball is also further out from the cushion, and not quite below the first diamond, like it is in the diagram. That is why in your first shot you end up on the short side of the 9.
 
pocket said:
So I was working on this shot last night and had a lot of difficulty with it. I'd like to hear how others would play this.

I realize this is probably a basic shot, should give you an idea of my (lack of) skill level.

I tried low, and low left. Most of the time I ended up even with the 9 or on the short side with a bad angle. Closest I got to leaving myself a chance to get out was hitting it much softer, ending up near the side pocket for a fairly long cut into the corner.

(this is playing 9ball)

What say?

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If I was in dead punch feeling confident with pockets that are between buckets and single shim I'd play this ball with a half a tip of inside(right) and like 3/4 tip low with a medium but smooth stroke. the deflection and draw will bring the cue between the side pocket and 3rd diamond then go to about the first diamond in other words like a v shape going back and forth. Using left with draw could go to the down on the first rail and either bump the 9 which and end up bad or on the second rail be too low or even scratch. That's def understandably a hard shot to execute for an inexperienced player because A it's hard compensating for the inside English especially with a firm stroke and any unwanted extra inside will throw the ball and over cut the pocket. But learning how to aim properly compensating for intended English, especially inside, is so crucial to progressing in pool.

On the other hand if the pressure is super high or if the pockets are very tight or if I'm struggling that pArticular day I'll play it with a full tip left and a half tip low and play the full side of the pocket basically aiming for the point on the left side of the pocket. I'd play pocket speed basically and take the middle table cut on the nine. More so I'd play this shot because I'm most comfortable aiming with low outside.

If this shot seems impossible then all the more reason to practice it basically until ur comfortable and don't give up keep trying eventually ull figure it out and then when he shot comes up u will welcome it knowing uve mastered it.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Personally, I'm going to use 8-o'clock to go two side rails and freeze in the middle of the left cushion.
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That's the best shot. It's firm, one tip low and one tip left. And it's easy to miss because of the force needed.

Most importantly, this is a great lesson in how not to leave yourself on the 8 ball when playing position. It's a trypical mistake I occasionally make when playing routine angles on cruise control. It's much better to be close to the 8 ball and straight if all possible, even if it means being on the opposite side of the 8 ball shooting down table.
 
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One pocket players know the value of TWO RAILING the 8;)

For those that dont know,2 rails probably gives the safest leave AND great cueball position for the 9.

The kiss is easy to avoid on the 1 rail bank however position on the 9 will suffer.

Island drive is right,set up the shot and progress till you find your limitations. The outlaw Joset Wales said " A man has to know his limitations":p
 
Here is another thought,practice shooting the 9 from all differant positions. There is only a small portion of the table where the 9 is difficult. Learn those areas and avoid them.
 
alstl said:
English can somewhat make up for a weak stroke but frankly that isn't a particularly difficult shot. The hardest part is making the 8 and avoiding the scratch in the side.
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Thats why I am going forward on this one, 2 o'clock, cue ball 3 rails for a nice shot on the 9. I also think you have a wider margin for error going 3 rails around rather than using draw and 2 rails. I think if you try going forward you will find out it takes less power or less of a stroke than going backwards. Give it a try and see what you think, you may be surprised.
 
If you don't want to shoot, you can follow through the 8, sending it 4 rails to the rail the 9 is on, leaving the cue ball on the opposite end rail.
 
barrymuch90 said:
If I was in dead punch feeling confident with pockets that are between buckets and single shim I'd play this ball with a half a tip of inside(right) and like 3/4 tip low with a medium but smooth stroke. the deflection and draw will bring the cue between the side pocket and 3rd diamond then go to about the first diamond in other words like a v shape going back and forth

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If you can get on the 9 using low "right", I'll eat my hat! Ha ha.
 
I just tried it a bunch of times on my 9' table. About 7:30 worked the best getting a great shot on the 9. Straight draw also worked, but required a very hard hit, and a very low CB. The 7:30 was a much more natural stroke speed.

The forward 3 rail route also worked well. Pocketing the ball seemed more reliable for my skill level this way. I hit the CB with lots of right spin, no high or low at all. Let the spin carry it around. I didn't try any other 3 rail variation.
 
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bad_hit said:
I hope you like the taste of hat ;)

Low right works well if you hit it right, try it.
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Tooler said:
You must be hungry......lol

see post 27.
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Your shots are low right going forward 3 rails. BarryMuch's shot was going two rails zig zagging across the table (roughly the same path if you hit the CB at 7:30). I don't think that is possible, and I did try it! (Unless I misinterpreted BarryMuch's shot?)

I know there is a shot like this where it reverses on the second rail (like on Pat Flemings creative edge video), but that did not work for me when I tried it with this particular ball position.

I'd like to follow up with BarryMuch to see exactly what he meant.
 
cleary said:
Why is a bank shot in even being tossed around? lol what's wrong with you people?!?!?
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Well, I don't like the bank, and it's not what Shane would shoot either, but years ago on worn, slow cloth some of the top players in this area preferred the bank shot over the long draw with outside. Maybe not for this exact position, but if the cue ball is only a foot from the left rail....
 
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