How Would You Play This Layout?

Agreed, these are fun. I don't get any right, but I learn from those who can, and do, make good decisions and shots.

Sorry if I've missed it, but has anyone posted a 'plotter overlay/matrix'...such that we could set up exactly where the balls lay?

Kinda like a draftsman pre=printed graph paper sheet with squares subdivided into scaled little squares...not a good explanation..but where you can identify location on X and Y axis within a square as defined by the diamonds.

When you have different camera angles from several different views there is no "overlay" that can describe the layout precisely.

ONB
 
I didn't read all the replays but his is my choice. Hitting the cue ball in the center with a fair amount of left English. More like stunning the cue to the short rail without draw. You don't want to come out to deep out of the corner because this might put you on the wrong side of the nine ball.

I don't think the three rail position is there. The stroke needed for that may take you into a scratch plus you still need to deal with getting past the nine ball.

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Frank,

Your photoshop skiills have vastly improved. You're almost a shortshop!
 
How do you draw those lines ???

What's the best way to draw lines on the table diagram. I am on a Mac Book.
I value your input, thank you.










THANKS TO ONB'er VVVVVVVVVVVVV
 
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Experiment with this and you'll see the advantages of not using "running english"

Playing a "hair of left English" is risky because it's tough to judge speed AND spin on these type shots.

I'd suggest using a "touch" of right (TOI) and play the speed with no need to judge spin. You will have to hit this shot a shade harder, however, it's worth the sacrifice for the additional control and "margin of error" that TOI gives you.

Experiment with this and you'll see the advantages of not using "running english"....it may come as a pleasant surprise.


Stun to the short rail with a hair of left English.
Bring the cue-ball back to where it is now.
 
NitPicker,

Truth be told I stole the format from the one-pocket site. I'm trying to get better with the ball numbering and the line drawing.

ONB

It's an excellent format regardless of whether it's stolen. These threads beat the pants off the pool politics and equipment discussions that dominate the main forum at times. I'd much rather talk about a table layout than that stuff.

-Andrew
 
Thanks for this thread. I really like thinking through the options, hearing what the guys on here would do then seeing what ended up being the ultimate choice by the shooter. Topics like this help shake the cobwebs off of stale thinking and shot choices.

On another topic...What part of a Diamond table is the Brunswick? :grin:

Good shooting to you!

Kevin
 
With the cue ball as close to the rail as it is I do not like the stun option as the cue ball will most likely hop a little and be very hard to control. The safe option is the highest percentage shot. But I would probably shoot a double shot and bank the two to the corner and use follow on the cue ball sebnding it two rails and leave it a foot or so behind the nine, so I have a shot on the three if the two falls and the shot is blocked for the two if I miss. I would also hope I don't hang the two as most everyone can jump now.
 
Playing a "hair of left English" is risky because it's tough to judge speed AND spin on these type shots.

I'd suggest using a "touch" of right (TOI) and play the speed with no need to judge spin. You will have to hit this shot a shade harder, however, it's worth the sacrifice for the additional control and "margin of error" that TOI gives you.

Experiment with this and you'll see the advantages of not using "running english"....it may come as a pleasant surprise.

Agree 100%...Inside and let the cue ball carry itself out. Depending on how much inside, and stroke, you can shorten and lengthen the angle to be desired.
Running english is your enemy here.
It looks like a routine shot to me, but images can be deceiving.
 
Agree 100%...Inside and let the cue ball carry itself out. Depending on how much inside, and stroke, you can shorten and lengthen the angle to be desired.
Running english is your enemy here.
It looks like a routine shot to me, but images can be deceiving.

Shane played safe so I doubt it was a routine shot.
 
Shane played safe so I doubt it was a routine shot.

Read where it says images can be deceiving.

Shane may have also wanted to take Dennis out of rythm.
Having a run out table and ducking is nothing new to take your opponet out of his game.
Take ball in hand and runout, takes the wind out of their sails when having to kick at everything.
 
Read where it says images can be deceiving.

Shane may have also wanted to take Dennis out of rythm.
Having a run out table and ducking is nothing new to take your opponet out of his game.
Take ball in hand and runout, takes the wind out of their sails when having to kick at everything.

Yeah, Shane probably decided against keeping one of the world's best players in his chair by taking the easy runout, and instead opted to give him a chance at the table. For the psychological edge.

-Andrew
 
Yeah, Shane probably decided against keeping one of the world's best players in his chair by taking the easy runout, and instead opted to give him a chance at the table. For the psychological edge.

-Andrew

YEAH,There were a few options to get on the 3,, none really that difficult or low percentage.

YEAH, Shane may have been gun shy.
YEAH, Dumping the cue ball to frustrate an opponet then taking ball in hand and run out never happens.
 
Do you want to win?

If so, you play a safe off of the 2 ball.

Bob Jewett gave a very simple and good solution to this situation, and it isn't hard to do, it's a simple safety to execute.

Any other shot you take is risky, and will more than likely still not result in a run-out situation, even if you make the 2 ball.
 
Read where it says images can be deceiving.

Shane may have also wanted to take Dennis out of rythm.
Having a run out table and ducking is nothing new to take your opponet out of his game.
Take ball in hand and runout, takes the wind out of their sails when having to kick at everything.

Yeah, Shane probably decided against keeping one of the world's best players in his chair by taking the easy runout, and instead opted to give him a chance at the table. For the psychological edge.This is very funny though.

-Andrew

YEAH,There were a few options to get on the 3,, none really that difficult or low percentage.

YEAH, Shane may have been gun shy.
YEAH, Dumping the cue ball to frustrate an opponet then taking ball in hand and run out never happens.

You're both wrong so stop arguing:D. Shane figured the odds of shooting the 2 and not getting hooked by the 9, being able to run out if he got a shot at the 3 and THEN figured the safety off the 2 ball was the best way to win the game.

P.S. He was right.

ONB
 
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