If Bonus Ball fails...
- Thread starter Roger Long
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THROWING A PENALTY FLAG ON THIS PLAY
STOP PLEASE.
Eric, you are not going to do this. We all know you are not going to do this, you even say you wouldn't do this, why use it as an empty threat?
If there was a business model you found attractive in pool, you'd be in the pool biz.
You yourself have claimed that being in Vegas was one of BB's biggest mistakes. Yet here you are now claiming you'd go into a business you know is ill-fated all in order to hurt TAR? Why because you hurt Justin's feelings with the way you worded something and he was bad enough to illustrate that to you?
I guess building a business to compete with one of the good things in pool, all in order to hurt a guy because he reacted a way you didn't like is one option (or more precisely, THREATENING to do that rather than actually doing it). I mean please, the guy is in the pool business. You are saying that guys in that business are dumb. How do you expect him to react? Thank you ? I read it as a guy telling you your words had power and letting you know how people in the pool biz feel when they read those words.
Here's another possible response (not telling you how to act, just saying here's one of many alternative reactions to what he said). Take a look at what Justin said. Take a look at the words you said that made him react that way. Put yourself in his shoes. See how the way he reacted could makes sense, regardless of what your intent was. And apologize.
Just saying.
Kevin
WAVING MY ARMS IN THAT CONTINUE PLAY MOTION
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I can picture it now, Larry and Nathan from Bonus Ball, sitting in their high-back black leather chairs, slowly stroking their hairless cats, looking at each other and saying "Everything is going exactly as we planned! Muahahahahahaha!"
i have had a studio set up in Vegas for almost 2 years, i just never flipped the switch. When i sold my house I set it up in a building 3 blocks away from cue club. That aint a bluff, its there. Ready to go. I could be up in a week or 2. I have everything necessary-including the tech people to go. Just need a couple pool players who want a pay check. thats what i aint got, not hard to find. I just didnt feel like f'ing with it. It had 2 tables in it, i took one down while i was in Germany and shipped it to LA. I got 3 rooms, 2800 sqft all together, i own the building free and clear, there is a diamond table there with the "Fatboy" rails just sitting there, fully furnished, lounge area. the whole bit. Just sitting in Vegas baking away, i dont run the A/C there, i do upstairs in my property management co, they keep a eye on it for me. Why did I let it sit-because I could and been waiting to see what BB was doing, and didnt want to step on any toes. That wouldnt be diplomatic and i will not let my emotions or deep pockets EVER dictate what I do, thats why I havent been a F up like Mike Tyson, Michael Jackson, Floyd or any other guy that made way more $$$ than he should have. It takes great restraint to turn the other cheek(when you got the best of it) and play it cool-and thats what i'm doing. Nobody has caused me harm so i will stay cool. leave it at that, if i'm harmed then all bets are off-but that wont happen.
i been to Vegas one time in the last 13 months, and really dont care if i ever go back to be honest. its a disease of a town and i dont miss it a bit, ok back to pool...
I have nothing to apologize for or to. So cant do that Kevin,
I'm just sitting here on the sidelines waiting to see how it falls out. if anything. Might be nothing. Then I may or may not make a move. Right now I(just found out) got MUCH bigger problems than pool or $$ or my back.
And thanks again for the "Gold" thing that was very nice and heart warming.
respectfully
eric
Kevin,
your correct I did and still say BB made a HUGE error in setting up shop in Vegas, from a operations stand point and if they intend on making $$$. If they have a different agenda then Vegas is a genius move. I dont know their intentions so i cant speak for them.
For myself If I was going to do something in pool to make $$$ I'd be in Tx or Fl because there is no State income tax, Mark Griffen is VERY smart with CSI inc, being HQ in Vegas for that reason and the summer league stuff. He is positioned very well, and his partner in Diamond tables is scary smart, he is the only guy who can fabricate tables and be profitable in America-thats beyond amazing, Olhausen had problems OSCHA, environmental issues makes doing any manufacturing in America almost impossible and Greg figured it all out. That impresses me.
Those 2 guys right there I respect, and the absolute last thing i'd do in pool is piss on them, i'd embrace them. True I perfer to play on a GC, but if I did anything pool in America I'd use Diamond products. period.
When Mark got in with JCIN that also influenced me not to do a studio in Vegas, its not like i can rent the space out, so it sits. But lets say I stay pissed at JCIN forever-which I won't. And did flip the switch, i only been in pool since 85 so i could pull off the streaming biz, maybe not as good as TAR. What would I accomplish? The real loss would be damaging TAR and Griffen, JCIN is tough he will be fine. Its a scumbag move. and i'd suffer long term damage to my reputation , sure some people hate me, or disagree with me and thats cool let them i'm always open to a counter point, i learn when i'm wrong. Point is i'm shitting where I eat if I open the studio I have and knock off TAR(as in copy) i aint putting anyone out of biz, thats just dumb to think that way, sure i say dumb things when i'm mad-i think we all do. so for that yes-i'm sorry! sincerely sorry.
I was going to make it a pool school that instructors could use for like 15%-20% of what they charge their students. I have a 12'X8' mirror thats in there and another huge one, so it would be good for instructors. Like Max for example, he is a good friend, he lived at my house for 6 months i think, point is I trust him, 100%. If I gave him keys and asked for 15% to cover costs-i'd bet he would got for it and he don't pay table time, neither would the students. The reason I didnt do that is because I dont want the responsibility of having that and insurance i'd need-see i need insurance for farting, cause when you have $ your a target for fraudulent claims, thats a ongoing thing in my life. to this day. having any $ requires lots of responsibility, it aint easy as it looks. Sure its worth it, if it wasnt i'd donate everything to charity.
So "Fatboy's Pro Billiard Academy" could happen , i wouldnt be a instructor-LOL, thats for sure. but I know I could get lots of qualified instructors who could use the tables, mirrors for 15%, And the students would benefit. If I was in Vegas I'd be on that, I wish I had a spot in LA to do that, but the rents are too brutal and there is not the instructors or students that Vegas draws. That would be a viable biz in Vegas, if I wanted to make $$$ I'd kick it up to 22.5% on the first $1000/mo each instructor charges. Then drop the rake on the rest of their monthly income, i'd do it on the honor system too.Why? I believe the instructors wouldnt shit where they eat-a turn key pool room with no charges except the rake on their fee's-students are free as well. That the nice part of OWNING the building. I'd also lay out biz plans and packages to fly students in for a week etc like RandyG does(to help my instructors sell more time and benefit their students). But before I even did that biz, I'd fly to RandyG's school, pay him for a weeks lessons and discuss my biz plan with diplomacy. Thats the correct way to set up a biz. If RandyG had a problem or Scott Lee or CJ or Neil or Stan Shuffet, i'd do my best to iron it out with them before-stepping on toes. Cause they are the guys(if I left someone off the list-sorry), and furthermore I would contact them and not make this post, IF is was a real plan. Its out-of-pocket to do biz like this on AZB IMO.
Am I sounding like JB?
Sorry JB-just bustin' balls, had to lighten up the mood,
best
eric
PS: I'll lay 50-1 Bartrum never makes a post this long.
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Mirrors. You could start Fat Boys School of Ballet and Danse.
You'd look good in a pink tutu and slippers. Or maybe tights with those half coconut shells that make them look like they have big packages.
You'd look good in a pink tutu and slippers. Or maybe tights with those half coconut shells that make them look like they have big packages.
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Except for one thing. They forgot about the most important thing in business. Get the money in the register.
When that happens, let me know.
yes thats true, get the $$$ in the damper-after you open the shop.
everything is not what it appears to be, i'll explane later(hope i dont have to)
LOL thats what i think was there, honestly the mirrors are HUGE. we bought the building and have never leased that spot, its been empty for years. We didnt ever need it for over flow(intended purpose) when we had 900 employees, so it has been vacant for 15? years, we redid the floors and paint.
me in a tu tu, i'm not sure the world is ready LOL, do they make them that big???
Excuse me for just a second, I have a great idea for a Streaming Match.
Excuse me for just a second, I have a great idea for a Streaming Match that's sure to get GREAT RATINGS!!!.
FATBOY vs JCIN Race to 1000 Bonus Ball.
Fatboy Coached by Neil and CJ
JCIN Coached by Scott Lee and Stan
Referee - "St. Louie" Lou
Promoter - Mark G.
Table Sponsor - Greg S.
Commentators - Jay H. and Joey
Media Coordinator - Jerry F.
PR Representative - JAM
Physics Consultant - PJ
Bonus Ball Rules Official - Larry
Case Consultants - JB & Jack J.
Table Mechanics - Cobra and Mark Gregory
Master of Ceremonies - Joe Rogan and Jennifer B.
Head of Security - Mr. Wilson
Sponsored by - TNT
Scott Lee or CJ or Neil or Stan Shuffet, i'd do my best to iron it out with them before-stepping on toes. Cause they are the guys(if I left someone off the list-sorry), and furthermore I would contact them and not make this post, IF is was a real plan. Its out-of-pocket to do biz like this on AZB IMO.
Am I sounding like JB?
Sorry JB-just bustin' balls, had to lighten up the mood,
best
eric
PS: I'll lay 50-1 Bartrum never makes a post this long.:eek:
Excuse me for just a second, I have a great idea for a Streaming Match that's sure to get GREAT RATINGS!!!.
FATBOY vs JCIN Race to 1000 Bonus Ball.
Fatboy Coached by Neil and CJ
JCIN Coached by Scott Lee and Stan
Referee - "St. Louie" Lou
Promoter - Mark G.
Table Sponsor - Greg S.
Commentators - Jay H. and Joey
Media Coordinator - Jerry F.
PR Representative - JAM
Physics Consultant - PJ
Bonus Ball Rules Official - Larry
Case Consultants - JB & Jack J.
Table Mechanics - Cobra and Mark Gregory
Master of Ceremonies - Joe Rogan and Jennifer B.
Head of Security - Mr. Wilson
Sponsored by - TNT
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I will be sure to let you know when that happens, which will probably be right after I return from my 8th grade graduation celebration. JAM and I are staying right in between the monkey cages at the zoo and the dance studios. Groupon baby!!!
PS: I'll lay 50-1 Bartrum never makes a post this long.
You got me. How much can I bet?
LMAO. Whichever way the rail leans though, I'm going the other way, lol.
Great idea CJ;
however, you just have one key factor missing:
"any conflicts possibly arising" negotiator/mediator: Lee Brett
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It's funny you said that -the bolded part above.
I told either Max Eberle or Manny Chau 2-3 weeks ago at the Bally's Casino the same thing. I love everything about the BB thing, except the game itself. I said I hope they were playing 8-Ball instead.
And I hope that things work out for BB, but -if things don't work out with BB- somebody should copy that recipe and add their own sauce to it.
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Yes Dad
Well Jerry, if I’m unable to give my opinions and perspective of the BCA/P&B & BD, then is it ok to say these words , Spanish, Polish, Jewish, African, Serbian etc. or NOT???? My father always told me how and what to say and when to say it,you removing my recent post feels similar….I’d be even more surprised if this THREAD is left alone.
Well Jerry, if I’m unable to give my opinions and perspective of the BCA/P&B & BD, then is it ok to say these words , Spanish, Polish, Jewish, African, Serbian etc. or NOT???? My father always told me how and what to say and when to say it,you removing my recent post feels similar….I’d be even more surprised if this THREAD is left alone.