I'm Calling Out JFORNEY36....WHERE IS MY CUE?

This reminds me of the companies that insist on credit, they make a lot of small orders, pay them on time, then you extend them more credit and they start paying slower, then the keep increasing the orders until you are so far stuck you can't cut them off for fear that they will stiff you for the outstanding debt. And what happens.......they stiff you anyway.

When I sold Instroke we probably had better than $30,000 in money owed that I will never see. In 1997 we almost went bankrupt when we had people owing us nearly $100,000.

Falcon Cues asked me for help to get their money from a customer in Germany that stiffed them for $25,000 with this increasing credit scam. We couldn't help them, the customer had disappeared.

These things always end with a major airbarrel and it sucks.

If I bought cues on here I think I'd INSIST on Escrow and make the SELLER pay for it. I know that my MONEY is legal tender but there is no telling if the cue is a phantom or is not as advertised.
 
runout1961 said:
The reason I did not use escrow is because a week or two before tis deal I bought a Blue Grass from Jeff and the whole deal was flawless. This combined with his itrader comments and our phone conversations led me to believe the next dea would go the same way. Anybody on AZB woud have tought the same thing.

And no the issue has not been resolved yet. It is in the works.

Thanks Everyone, John
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I understand, I probably would have done the same thing. I was not trying to say you should have seen it coming. I said that you had reason to assume that it would go smoothly. I was just speaking in generalities. I was responding to the comments of a sticky thread for this kind of thing. That was the context, it was not meant to be a reflection of you.


I do not want to take ANY focus away from the person who is truly at fault. I am not attempting to blame the victim here. You are not the guilty party, and I never meant to imply that.


I hope it gets worked out for you

Jason
 
194 replies on this post and none of JF. Well, i have a feeling that he is waiting the case to be resolved by taking finally the cue in your hands and we will see a hundred thousands words post from him stating several things and answering to all accusations. And then suddenly the red will become green in a flush. I hope this will be the ending of all this and John return to his peacefull life. Things will go fine mate and i have faith on this.
 
In my case he sold a capone cue to me and than got a few dollors extra from another person and he sold the cue to him again.The other buyer was Via and we got to know accidentaly the same evening as we were negotiating a deal on a bcm cue he had.I told Via i had bought a capone and he said he too had bought one,when asked who was the seller it turned out to be Jforney.I asked jeff what was going on and i got no answer.Via asked and no answer and lill later he got a tracking number.

I filed a paypal claim immidiately and in return i got a pm which i showed everyone in my thread.He repeatedly asked me to withdraw the claim and he will return my money.I did not and eventually he had to return my money.though i lost about 50usd incurred on bank charges.

I hoped he changed for good.But i think he hasnt he needs to be a man and apologise to John and all other azer's

John works in the us military under terrible circumstances in afghanistan.He is protecting u and ur country Jeff.U owe him money and apology.

Be a Man and do it and u will feel much better
 
What's JF's real name ? Seriously, with a history like his, something really should be done about him. He's a bloody crook!
 
Well I doubt this has been solved yet, so doing my civil duty and bringing it to the top.
 
Monto P2 said:
John works in the us military under terrible circumstances in afghanistan.He is protecting u and ur country Jeff.U owe him money and apology.

John works as a Contract Firemen in Afghanistan.
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hard to believe but this a*s clown is still going strong on az with his truckload of red rep entering raffles. he seems to have no prob ponying up the cash for those. jforney36. hero to to dead beats everywhere. that's just sad.
 
Tommyd1 said:
John works as a Contract Firemen in Afghanistan.
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And those contract support positions still carry the risk with them. Usually, there is protection for contractors than for a lot of servicemembers. Anyone remember the contractors kidnapped, etc in Iraq? He is in harm's way performing a job for our country....I would not do it.
Joe
 
Where he's at, it does not matter if you are a GI or contractor. The entire base gets pop shots all day & all night, every day from mortars & RPG's. I have been there working on his firetrucks. It's no picnic.
 
Tommyd1 said:
Monto P2 said:
John works in the us military under terrible circumstances in afghanistan.He is protecting u and ur country Jeff.U owe him money and apology.

John works as a Contract Firemen in Afghanistan.
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The bullets bombs and missiles dont know persons job profile.neither do the terrorists

Do u hav the guts to go there and work????????????

Do u even have a remote idea whats it like landing in a war zone??????

The contract staff and all other people are as important as any other.Everyone has a role to play and thats what u
will win a war
 
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Bamacues said:
And those contract support positions still carry the risk with them. Usually, there is protection for contractors than for a lot of servicemembers. Anyone remember the contractors kidnapped, etc in Iraq? He is in harm's way performing a job for our country....I would not do it.
Joe
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People do a lot of things when they can make A LOT OF MONEY !!

Not knocking John, but he's not he's there to protect you and me or my freedom, he's there to make A LOT OF MONEY !

I just don't think it's fair to the men and women that are there giving their lives and limbs for our country to have someone who is not, referred to as someone who is.

I have read in this thread a number of times John referred to as being a Military Service Member, I thought he would correct this, but I guess not.

I just like to see the correct facts represented in all instances.

Tommyd1
 
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I had a chance to go over there with a contractor for a large amount of money and I said hell no ain't no amount of money going to find me there,I think it take's a special kind of person to do what John does,not just anyone can do it money aside you have to like adventure and the possibility of getting your ass blown off,,just my .02,,,Noel
 
wasnt this post about a guy paying for and not getting his cue?
what does it matter what the parties due for a living?
thank you sir for serving your country..i was in desert strorm so i i know what your going throught...GOOD LUCK!!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL OF OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMAN...GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
 
dafish1970 said:
wasnt this post about a guy paying for and not getting his cue?
what does it matter what the parties due for a living?
thank you sir for serving your country..i was in desert strorm so i i know what your going throught...GOOD LUCK!!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL OF OUR SERVICE MEN AND WOMAN...GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!
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Rep sent to ya. Agree with you 100%
 
runout1961 said:
I NEVER said that I was in the military. I used to be in the military but not anymore. I now work for the Army in Afghanistan. Whenever I referance my job on here I always say that I work for the Army and that is true.

And another thing it does not matter how much money I make over here. It really bothers me when you say I'm just here to make money which is bull shit. I am here to make money yes but also to support my country in a very desperate time of need. These rockets and everything else that get flung on base every now and again could very easily hit my living space just as easily as the Army soldier ten feet away. I also travel a lot around Afghanistan to other camps which is no picnic. I still have to get up in the middle of the night in 2 or 3 feet of snow and walk to the bathroom, still have to eat the damn DFAC food, and I still have to work 12 hours a day 7 days a week.

The point is don't make it sound like I am over here for one reason because I'll tell you what, the money ain't worth it to me sometimes. It is the love and service to my country that keeps me going here in Afghanistan.
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John,

Would you still be there on a soldier's pay ?

My response to this thread was only to state the fact that you are not a solider, many of our members keep referring to you as if you were and this is just not a true fact.

This is the first time in this thread that you have said what you actually do.

I do respect you for being there as I have told you personally.

I wish you the best of luck in getting your deal done with Journey.

It just bothers me to read wrong facts.


Tommyd1
 
Tommy, I totally understand what you are saying & can see you are not knocking on anybody. But understand that the job he fills is pretty much limited to prior military personnel. That means in order to land this job, he first had to do his duty on soldier's pay. And being a fireman in a combat zone is no walk in the park, no matter how much the pay. It's not like he's a desk jockey. He has to respond to live combat, knowing full well that it's live BEFORE he goes in. I don't know about you or anybody else, but there's no amount of pay worth orphaning my kids & widowing my wife. I did it for my country, which I believe was my debt to pay for reaping the bennefits of being an American citizen. And if needed, i'd not hesitate to go again. Now that i'm older & have more to stake, plus have already paid my debt when most have not, i'd want more compensation to cover my family if I never made it home. But then again, if it came time i'm truly needed, i'd do it for free. I like to think most of us would. But for just wanting my expertise & willingness to serve, it would cost more now than it did when I was a young GI. I clearly see both ends of the spectrum & neither is wrong, just indifferent.

John, I hope you get your issue settled. It's unfortunate.
 
runout1961 said:
I completely understand how one would confuse the fact that just because I am here means I am in the military. Like I said, I don't wear that uniform anymore but I never said that I am in the military over here. I always say that I work for the Army and have been here for two years. Not looking for a pity show....just getting the facts straight for my friend Tommy.

By the way I have been deployed while I was in the military and I was fine with it. It's what I signed up to do so let's do it.

John
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Thanks John,

I was in the military also, during the Vietnam days, I'm an old guy, 61 yrs. old.

I know you didn't say you were in the military, but then again you never corrected the fact that when people responded that you were, you never corrected them.

As you know, I do respect you very much for what you do, but I'm also a person that needs to read accurate facts.

As in all my past contact with you,
I've always said, " Keep your head down". I know your job is dangerous.

I wish you the best my friend. May God keep you safe.

Tom
 
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All is well that ends well:thumbup:

I hope Jefferey Forney Sr also realises this and gets the money back to john as soon as poosible
 
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