Jasmin Suspended

She played in one tournament so suspend her for one tournament. Quid pro pro. If she does it again, break her thumbs.:)

Not so long ago, many of the the women were crossing lines set by the WPBA to play in the IPT, including board members. Who sat in judgement of them? I must not have heard about those suspensions.

This is what's called selective enforcement of the rules.
 
sjm said:
Ultimately, I hope that the WPBA bends when it comes to similar waivers requested by Jasmin in the future, but I leave the matter in their capable hands. The WPBA, through superior management and policies, has produced America's only long-lasting pro pool tour, and I have confidence they will, ultimately, do the right thing.
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sjm,
I wonder if your confidence is warranted. The IPT episode a couple of years ago seemed to indicate that the better women players will jump ship at the prospect of big money. The board's acceptance of WPBA players competing in the IPT definitely weakens their appearance of authority; and calls into question their consistency. Rather than sticking to their policy during the IPT, they now proceed into an area where their motives will need to be questioned.

Why suspend Jasmine and not all of the women who competed in the IPT event that overlapped the Peoria WPBA tournament??? Though I heard that they received exemptions; I believe that many stated their intention to play before that decision; whether exemptions were received or not. Should those players not have been suspended?

What are their criteria for allowing players to play in competing events??? There definitely should be guidelines; or everyone will think there are personal factors and agendas at work.

Why refuse to allow Jeanette Lee to compete in world events consistently over the 5 years before the IPT; and then allow others to compete in the IPT?

I look forward to being convinced that they are not playing favorites (and Jasmine seems definitely NOT to be on the "favorite's" list); but there is certainly that appearance.
 
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two events is kinda harsh

its a shame the events were on the same dates and she had to choose one or the other.but if she made any attempt to give them a heads up id say a two event ban is not only harsh but counter productive,she is a huge draw
 
If one of the reasons for suspending her was to protect their sponsers, it seems a bit counterproductive and ironic to not let her play for two tournaments, being that she is a major draw. It would seem the value of the tournaments has just been decreased by her suspension. We already have folks neverminding the PPV this weekend.

Is the WPBA a WPA sanctioned organization? If so, it seems she may have a leg to stand on since she went to play in a WPA event. How can they suspend her if she didn't go outside the WPA to compete?
 
Marop said:
Now I can save $30.00 on the PPV this week...
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Or you can sign up and ask the commentators the question directly?

This WPBA PPV thing might be cooler than a lot of folks were expecting. :D
 
Marop said:
Now I can save $30.00 on the PPV this week...
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I suggest that if that's the route you choose to show your displeasure, then you should write a quick e-mail to the wpba letting them know why.

Otherwise they may look at ppv as a failed experiment.

Voting with $ has always been an effective protest on mass.
 
Wow, are they trying to ruin the best thing they have going? She is a gift from Heaven to that tour. Knockout beautiful and shoots lights out.
 
Another example of why pool is in such bad shape. You have blind people steering the ships.


You have probably the most maketable player on the planet today and you suspend her for 2 events. And just as you start offering pay per views. What a joke.

Give her a warning and move on.
 
why would the WPBA schedule an event during the world championships??

do they think that the pool audience is large enough to support two major stops on the same day???...

Jasmin shouldn't be suspended... someone in logistics should be fired..

end of problem..
 
First they let Elbowby slide on roughing up the competition, now they punish Jasmin for trying to break the glass ceiling of women's pool, if you will. It's a little bassackwards, I say. :confused:

And how do you explain this:

This suspension concerns the tournament in Florida which starts tomorrow and the first event in the new season.

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The current decision is not yet legal, since Jasmin Ouschan used her right to appeal.

A final decision should be available in the next 30 days.​

Sooooo, are there 30 days left until tomorrow? :confused: :rolleyes:

I will watch for the Florida event... so I can remove it from my DVR recording schedule. If anyone more eloquent than I wants to organize a letter to the WPBA, I will gladly sign and boycott the viewing of those two tournaments. In MHO, this is BS. :duck:
 
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This isn't surprising. When Jean Balukas dominated the women's tour, they tried to keep her down, too.

I plan to write and call to voice my disapproval and encourage others to do so, as well.

EDIT: I got that contact info from the WPBA website believing it was their headquarters. I've just been informed it may be Melissa Herndon's address and phone number so please disregard that contact information!
 
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I think she should get with Balukas and they should start their own league. Similar story's exept we lost Jean...Thanks to the politics...How many you think we lose to that over the years???

I'll bet they could get the sponsors now with the popularity of womens pool...and for other reasons being a fad now.

Dont go and appeal. You can make it without them. They need you more than you need them.

I'll bet she and Jean could surpass them!!! This could only help the womens pool movement. In turn helping all cue sports.
Jamison
 
per my girlfriend's request, I tried suspending Jasmin from my dreams every night this past week. She's done a fine job of appealing that suspension.

In fact, Jasmin's greatest quality is how appealing she is.

I could go on for days on this. lol

She's purty.
 
if they dont let her play and she wins the appeal (is found not guilty of whatever)what is her compensation...
 
So, let me get this straight...the WPBA is sanctioning Jasmin for choosing to compete at arguably the highest level against top competition in an effort to further her sport? This seems ludicrous. While I can understand that she, as a member of the WPBA, should abide by the rules of the organization, I cannot understand how the WPBA would sanction her for choosing to challenge herself and also attempting to set a milestone for women worldwide.

Does the WPBA own the players?

Do the rules of the WPBA state that women cannot play anywhere in the world, except on the tour they provide?

Maybe I'm wrong and the WPBA should control the players to the point of indentured servitude. After all, slavery was right, wasn't it? (ABSOLUTELY NOT)

The WPBA has got it wrong here and has a lot of nerve to say she cannot play against the men in the WPA events!

Didn't Annika play on the PGA Tour with the men? Did the LPGA Tour sanction her and make her sit out any events? Maybe the WPBA is bigger than the LPGA and maybe they feel like the LPGA and the rest of the world can learn from their glowing example of how to treat a player!
 
jay helfert said:
She played in one tournament so suspend her for one tournament. Quid pro pro. If she does it again, break her thumbs.:)

Not so long ago, many of the the women were crossing lines set by the WPBA to play in the IPT, including board members. Who sat in judgement of them? I must not have heard about those suspensions.

This is what's called selective enforcement of the rules.
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I don't think that the IPT tournaments conflicted with WPBA events. At heart this is about the conflicting dates.

It's correct that the WPBA has to attempt to protect the integrity of it's events. However I also feel that if players want to give up the ranking points to play in other events then that should be their perogative. There are plenty more women who love the chance to move up in the rankings. It's not a question of filling up the board I think.

This is a tricky situation. However, if the players know the rules and the rules apply equally then that should be that.

A two tournament suspension seems rather harsh though considering there are only 8 tournaments per year.

I am awfully proud of Jasmin though for choosing to go up against the boys and very proud of her accomplishments there. Maybe in the future their won't be conflicting dates that force her or any other woman to choose.

One thing that's unclear to me is whether any other women were invited to the WTBC? Were there?
 
I hate comparisons to other sports, but just for a minute consider this. What does the PGA do to Tiger Woods if he decides to pass on a tournament in Podunk, USA to warm up for the Masters? The answer is, not a darn thing.

I think the WPBA needs the likes of JO more than she needs them. Let's hope cooler heads prevail.

Steve
 
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